Current Events > House GOP civil war erupts as Kevin McCarthy wins speaker nod

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Lebronwon 11/15/22 4:28:09 PM #1:	https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/mccarthy-clears-first-hurdle-in-bid-to-become-speaker/ House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy overcame opposition from members of his own party to win the GOP nomination for House speaker Tuesday as his colleagues blamed him for Republicans weaker-than-expected showing in last weeks midterm elections. McCarthy (R-Calif.) defeated challenger Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) by a 188-31 vote among the House Republican Conference on Tuesday, coming 30 votes short of the 218 he will need from the full House on Jan. 3 to succeed his fellow Golden Stater Nancy Pelosi and necessitating weeks of wheeling and dealing with the holdouts. Were going to have the ability to change America, an upbeat McCarthy told reporters as he entered the closed-door meeting. But other house Republicans, seething after the midterm results and the lack of a red wave, publicly broke with their leader. Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.) said at a closed-door meeting Monday that the GOP got rolled before announcing he would oppose McCarthys bid to become speaker. Kevin McCarthy has not done anything to earn my vote for speaker, Good said , according to the Daily Caller. McCarthy has little wiggle room, with Republicans expected to only achieve one or two seats more than the 218 needed to narrowly control the chamber. Biggs, the former chair of the influential House Freedom Caucus, stepped up to challenge McCarthy, saying he wanted to take the caucus in a different direction. We have a new paradigm here, and I think the country wants a different direction from the House of Representatives, Biggs told Newsmax Monday night. The promised red wave turned into a loss of the United States Senate, a razor-thin majority in the House of Representatives, and upset losses of premiere political candidates, Biggs said in a statement announcing his challenge. McCarthy said he drew support from Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, a member of the Freedom Caucus, and far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. Greene (R-Ga.), who was elected to a second term last week, cautioned Republicans Monday about opposing McCarthy for speaker, calling it a bad strategy that could bring unexpected consequences. Its very, very risky right now to produce a leadership challenge, especially for Speaker of the House, when they are going to open the door and allow Liz Cheney, possibly, to become Speaker, she said on Steve Bannons War Room podcast. Meanwhile, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) correctly predicted Monday that McCarthy would not have the support to prevail in a House-wide election. Kevin McCarthy does not have 218 votes to become speaker now, he said. I dont think he has 200. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:969450840] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/mccarthy-clears-first-hurdle-in-bid-to-become-speaker/House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy overcame opposition from members of his own party to win the GOP nomination for House speaker Tuesday as his colleagues blamed him for Republicans weaker-than-expected showing in last weeks midterm elections. McCarthy (R-Calif.) defeated challenger Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.) by a 188-31 vote among the House Republican Conference on Tuesday, coming 30 votes short of the 218 he will need from the full House on Jan. 3 to succeed his fellow Golden Stater Nancy Pelosi and necessitating weeks of wheeling and dealing with the holdouts. Were going to have the ability to change America, an upbeat McCarthy told reporters as he entered the closed-door meeting. But other house Republicans, seething after the midterm results and the lack of a red wave, publicly broke with their leader. Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.) said at a closed-door meeting Monday that the GOP got rolled before announcing he would oppose McCarthys bid to become speaker. Kevin McCarthy has not done anything to earn my vote for speaker, Good said , according to the Daily Caller. McCarthy has little wiggle room, with Republicans expected to only achieve one or two seats more than the 218 needed to narrowly control the chamber. Biggs, the former chair of the influential House Freedom Caucus, stepped up to challenge McCarthy, saying he wanted to take the caucus in a different direction. We have a new paradigm here, and I think the country wants a different direction from the House of Representatives, Biggs told Newsmax Monday night. The promised red wave turned into a loss of the United States Senate, a razor-thin majority in the House of Representatives, and upset losses of premiere political candidates, Biggs said in a statement announcing his challenge. McCarthy said he drew support from Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, a member of the Freedom Caucus, and far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. Greene (R-Ga.), who was elected to a second term last week, cautioned Republicans Monday about opposing McCarthy for speaker, calling it a bad strategy that could bring unexpected consequences. Its very, very risky right now to produce a leadership challenge, especially for Speaker of the House, when they are going to open the door and allow Liz Cheney, possibly, to become Speaker, she said on Steve Bannons War Room podcast. Meanwhile, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) correctly predicted Monday that McCarthy would not have the support to prevail in a House-wide election. Kevin McCarthy does not have 218 votes to become speaker now, he said. I dont think he has 200.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
famfam 11/15/22 4:29:15 PM #2:	is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation? <cite>famfam posted [p:969450871] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bluezero 11/15/22 4:30:47 PM #3:	GOP infighting is my new favorite thing. --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide <cite>bluezero posted [p:969450908] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>GOP infighting is my new favorite thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/15/22 4:32:17 PM #4:	Were going to have the ability to change America, No you don't. All you can do for the next couple of years is stonewall. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:969450933] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote><quote>Were going to have the ability to change America,</quote>No you don't. All you can do for the next couple of years is stonewall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 11/15/22 4:33:10 PM #5:	Questionmarktarius posted... No you don't. All you can do for the next couple of years is stonewall. that's not exactly true. he can also be stonewalled. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Conversation is neither required nor desired. <cite>Medussa posted [p:969450949] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>No you don't. All you can do for the next couple of years is stonewall.</quote>that's not exactly true. he can also be stonewalled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 11/15/22 4:34:49 PM #6:	In reality that means MTG gets to spread her bullshit more now. Ugh Dems didn't get OKO'd but this still sucks ass --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:969450985] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>In reality that means MTG gets to spread her bullshit more now. Ugh Dems didn't get OKO'd but this still sucks ass </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Srk700 11/15/22 4:37:26 PM #9:	famfam posted... is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation? I'm inclined to think bad because he has that swamp monster Marjorie Taylor Greene on his side. Still hard to tell though since he has another scumbag in Gaetz seemingly against him based off what's in the OP Though it probably doesnt matter since the Republican party in general has a ton of deplorable politicians within it. <cite>Srk700 posted [p:969451041] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation?</quote>I'm inclined to think bad because he has that swamp monster Marjorie Taylor Greene on his side. Still hard to tell though since he has another scumbag in Gaetz seemingly against him based off what's in the OP Though it probably doesnt matter since the Republican party in general has a ton of deplorable politicians within it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/15/22 4:37:31 PM #10:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No regrets over buying the Bob Ross lands. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:969451043] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No regrets over buying the Bob Ross lands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/15/22 4:53:02 PM #11:	famfam posted... is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation? He's a republican so bad. --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:969451405] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation?</quote>He's a republican so bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FigureOfSpeech 11/15/22 5:09:22 PM #13:	bluezero posted... GOP infighting is my new favorite thing. <cite>FigureOfSpeech posted [p:969451750] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>bluezero posted... </cite><quote>GOP infighting is my new favorite thing.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 11/15/22 5:14:21 PM #14:	FigureOfSpeech posted... GOP infighting is my new favorite thing. it won't last. once the decision is made, they'll (almost) all fall into line. we might get one or two like Cheney and Kinzinger last term, but not enough to matter. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Conversation is neither required nor desired. <cite>Medussa posted [p:969451861] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>FigureOfSpeech posted... </cite><quote>GOP infighting is my new favorite thing.</quote>it won't last. once the decision is made, they'll (almost) all fall into line. we might get one or two like Cheney and Kinzinger last term, but not enough to matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Halo478 11/15/22 5:16:24 PM #15:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOhpQDDME4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF0jiKodDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqZha8_PDk <cite>Halo478 posted [p:969451917] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 11/15/22 5:21:12 PM #16:	"It's your fault the people don't like me, Kevin!"--Matt Gaetz probably --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:969452036] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>"It's your fault the people don't like me, Kevin!"--Matt Gaetz probably</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 11/15/22 9:19:34 PM #17:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is the first vote. There will be another Housewide vote. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:969456770] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is the first vote. There will be another Housewide vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 11/16/22 12:12:25 PM #18:	McCarthy said he drew support from Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, a member of the Freedom Caucus, and far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. Greene (R-Ga.), I'm not really surprised... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:969468865] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>McCarthy said he drew support from Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, a member of the Freedom Caucus, and far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. Greene (R-Ga.),I'm not really surprised...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 11/16/22 12:20:03 PM #19:	Srk700 posted... I'm inclined to think bad because he has that swamp monster Marjorie Taylor Greene on his side. Still hard to tell though since he has another scumbag in Gaetz seemingly against him based off what's in the OP Though it probably doesnt matter since the Republican party in general has a ton of deplorable politicians within it. At this point, it's just Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:969469031] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Srk700 posted... </cite><quote>I'm inclined to think bad because he has that swamp monster Marjorie Taylor Greene on his side. Still hard to tell though since he has another scumbag in Gaetz seemingly against him based off what's in the OP Though it probably doesnt matter since the Republican party in general has a ton of deplorable politicians within it.</quote>At this point, it's just Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 11/16/22 12:33:36 PM #20:	Andy Biggs is a seditionist who fully supported Jan 6 and already put his name towards impeaching Biden so McCarthy is absolutely the lesser of the two evils --- Posted from my iPhone 13 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:969469310] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Andy Biggs is a seditionist who fully supported Jan 6 and already put his name towards impeaching Biden so McCarthy is absolutely the lesser of the two evils </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 11/16/22 12:56:49 PM #21:	famfam posted... is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation? The group that's opposing him wants someone worse. But he's still garbage himself --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:969469790] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>famfam posted... </cite><quote>is McCarthy the good or bad option in this situation?</quote>The group that's opposing him wants someone worse. But he's still garbage himself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 11/16/22 12:58:44 PM #22:	Lebronwon posted... his colleagues blamed him for Republicans weaker-than-expected showing in last weeks midterm elections how the fuck is that his fault lmfao hahaahha fuckin moron politicians --- St. Louis Battlehawks (1-1) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:969469840] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted... </cite><quote>his colleagues blamed him for Republicans weaker-than-expected showing in last weeks midterm elections</quote>how the fuck is that his fault lmfao hahaahha fuckin moron politicians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Space__Cowboy 11/16/22 1:05:37 PM #23:	Medussa posted... it won't last. once the decision is made, they'll (almost) all fall into line. we might get one or two like Cheney and Kinzinger last term, but not enough to matter. Agreed. This is meaningless theater for now. There are no stakes. You won't hear a peep about in-fighting once they have to accomplish (or stall) any worthwhile legislation. --- New account of TheRealDill2000 The voice oft reason on CE <cite>Space__Cowboy posted [p:969469991] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>it won't last. once the decision is made, they'll (almost) all fall into line. we might get one or two like Cheney and Kinzinger last term, but not enough to matter.</quote>Agreed. This is meaningless theater for now. There are no stakes. You won't hear a peep about in-fighting once they have to accomplish (or stall) any worthwhile legislation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 11/16/22 1:09:52 PM #24:	Pitlord_Special posted... Andy Biggs is a seditionist who fully supported Jan 6 and already put his name towards impeaching Biden so McCarthy is absolutely the lesser of the two evils Hasn't McCarthy also said he would impeach Biden? It's apples to apples here. --- Currently Playing: Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Final Fantasy XIV <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:969470074] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Pitlord_Special posted... </cite><quote>Andy Biggs is a seditionist who fully supported Jan 6 and already put his name towards impeaching Biden so McCarthy is absolutely the lesser of the two evils</quote>Hasn't McCarthy also said he would impeach Biden? It's apples to apples here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Space__Cowboy 11/16/22 1:11:03 PM #25:	What's the point of impeachment here? There's 0 chance of removal, and everyone knows it. --- New account of TheRealDill2000 The voice oft reason on CE <cite>Space__Cowboy posted [p:969470102] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>What's the point of impeachment here? There's 0 chance of removal, and everyone knows it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 11/16/22 1:14:44 PM #27:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Hasn't McCarthy also said he would impeach Biden? It's apples to apples here. If he doesnt have enough internal support he will have to bargain with the democrats to get enough votes. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:969470198] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Holy_Cloud105 posted... </cite><quote>Hasn't McCarthy also said he would impeach Biden? It's apples to apples here.</quote>If he doesnt have enough internal support he will have to bargain with the democrats to get enough votes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 11/16/22 1:20:07 PM #28:	Space__Cowboy posted... What's the point of impeachment here? There's 0 chance of removal, and everyone knows it. "Revenge". But I'm actually curious now, given the developing schism from Trump and the lack of support behind McCarthy, if they're actually going to have the votes to do it. --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:969470329] in House GOP ... [t:80234731]...</cite> <quote>Space__Cowboy posted...</cite><quote>What's the point of impeachment here? There's 0 chance of removal, and everyone knows it.</quote>"Revenge".But I'm actually curious now, given the developing schism from Trump and the lack of support behind McCarthy, if they're actually going to have the votes to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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