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Obellisk 10/11/22 8:55:31 AM #201: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... I just caught someone throwing out random names not realizing who is on the player list. Someone who only knows who his scum buddies are and doesn't care who the lynch is. Is this actually something you believed? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/11/22 8:55:35 AM #202: |
Kirby321 posted... On another note, Poppy, Corrik, would you two mind explaining your votes? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 8:57:11 AM #203: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... You said you won't be here but I want more thoughts in your plum vote since he is your top read..... it's times like this when I have to ask myself if Sultan is doing this intentionally and that's a dangerous thought >_> --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 8:57:23 AM #204: |
SBell: I got information all of a sudden. Intel that proved a prior theory of mine wrong. TheSultanOfSlam posted... I'll admit i was poking fun at BCT at first but even this counter vote isn't sitting well with meThe fact that it took you this long to admit that - despite you being the one dwelling on it - is not a good look. It was a joke. Let it go and start hunting scum instead of hunting town. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 8:58:18 AM #205: |
Also still here for one hour. Did not expect this much morning activity! --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 8:59:16 AM #206: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... SBell: I got information all of a sudden. Intel that proved a prior theory of mine wrong. What is this in response to? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 9:06:53 AM #207: |
Obellisk posted... What is this in response to?"Scum hunting" --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 9:09:44 AM #208: |
PunishedBen posted... I thought we were talking about Ctes. You said you presume ctes is townDon't recall saying that. Ctes was "presumably" trying to pressure Sultan, to out Sultan as town. That's what I meant. I don't know what to make of Ctes yet. But Sultan slipped and now I no longer think that. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 9:10:38 AM #209: |
BCT, you didn't respond to my thoughts in post 160. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 9:17:18 AM #210: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... "Scum hunting"9 minutes between your two posts and the only thing that happened in-between was a Sultan typo. Not sure what information you received that changed a theory of yours considering you said you don't have enough info to scum hunt --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 9:29:11 AM #211: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... BCT, you didn't respond to my thoughts in post 160.I think it's because that game is blurred from my memory, given the mental state I was in at the time. My bad. Obellisk posted... Not sure what information you received that changed a theory of yours considering you said you don't have enough info to scum huntThe "typo" was the info. Was it really a typo, though? ##Unvote --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 9:29:27 AM #212: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... Don't recall saying that. Ctes was "presumably" trying to pressure Sultan, to out Sultan as town. That's what I meant. I don't know what to make of Ctes yet. But Sultan slipped and now I no longer think that.You think Sultan is lying that he meant to say Han? --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 9:32:57 AM #213: |
Ninjad --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/11/22 9:36:55 AM #214: |
Lopen posted... Can you explain Han's train of thought on BCT and what you do and don't agree with? Han's argument is that BCT sounds like he's trying to seem towny rather than having legitimate thoughts. I just feel like I see that argument every game and don't particularly think it's strong, though to Han's credit, he did provide a specific example. And I can see where he's coming from with that post, but I don't think it's a strong enough point to warrant a lynch train. That's what I initially thought, at least, but I went back and briefly skimmed Baseball Musical Mafia (more so I was looking through the dead player lists since I was trying to remember which game BCT replaced out of, which was indeed Baseball Musical Mafia). BCT largely behaved the same back then with going completely on the defensive. So this seems NAI for BCT; this is just how he behaves regardless of being scum or town. So now I'm wary of repeating what happened in that game. I'm seeing very similar patterns here, though that's just me fearing if BCT is Town. Could just as easily be Mafia, but I'd say it's a coin toss if we're going just off of BCT's reactions right now. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 9:37:39 AM #215: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... I think it's because that game is blurred from my memory, given the mental state I was in at the time. My bad. Can we not spoiler block things? Also, what theory of yours was changed when Sultans phone inserted Plum instead of Han? mind you he also referenced you voting and your strongest read which at that moment in time for you WAS/IS Han, so you had enough info to know what Sultan meant and instead decided to go for the jugular like you just nailed scums ass to the wall. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 9:38:13 AM #216: |
I think Scum BCT would be more afraid than angry. It does strike me that BCT entered this game with the attitude he demonstrated "any point to posting? You already think I'm scum". Many signs point to him being Town I think. Though he made a few posts that ticked off Scum boxes (narrating of what's happening in game). But I think, for BCT to be Scum, this would have to be premeditated attitude, and if that's the case, I think Lopen is the only player on the list who would encourage BCT to make a play like that. Tl;Dr BCT likely Town, but if Scum, is paired with Lopen. ##Unvote: Ctes I like Ctes's explanations as well for the moment. Sultan did something that makes me think he's Town. And Poppy seems to be analyzing the game from an honest standpoint, so I'm feeling Town. And Red.is seeming Townish too. Think that's where I'm sitting on things at the moment. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 9:40:06 AM #217: |
is anyone scum yet Han? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/11/22 9:41:37 AM #218: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... I just caught someone throwing out random names not realizing who is on the player list. Someone who only knows who his scum buddies are and doesn't care who the lynch is. No... as someone who was on the receiving end of this argument not too long ago, this is a stretch. Though in my case, it was a joke instead of a misunderstanding, but it's still not a solid argument. I know you have a tendency to suspect the people who vote you, BCT, but this ain't it. PunishedBen posted... Bro you typoed. No Leads makes me think something entirely different from No Reads. But once you explained that I get it. Not really a typo but poor wording, really Why do I get the feeling you're only calling me town to get me off of your back? I don't think you're being genuine, Ben. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/11/22 9:43:16 AM #219: |
Obellisk posted... Can we not spoiler block things?Sorry, was just trying to make a point in my usual way outside Mafia. In short: I have no idea what I'm doing. That's really all there is to it. Since I'm town, I have nobody to coach me, and thus I appear incoherent. I do think it was a typo and no theory actually changed - I was just acting as if it did to see how Sultan would react. I legit don't know what to believe and I'm pursuing every theory as it comes. I get a reply and then I drop it if I'm satisfied with the responses. I'm trying to do what I see everyone else doing, but in some way I'm just not doing a good job of it. I don't understand. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 10:04:30 AM #220: |
Han, would you say the above post is more afraid or angry? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 10:07:31 AM #221: |
SBell, do YOU think BCT is Scum right now? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 10:12:55 AM #222: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... SBell, do YOU think BCT is Scum right now? I think the needle ticks a little further in that direction at the moment. I don't really accept the "I don't know what I'm doing" attitude, when pressed. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 10:21:08 AM #223: |
Han, are you just avoiding the question I asked? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 10:25:04 AM #224: |
Kirby321 posted... No... as someone who was on the receiving end of this argument not too long ago, this is a stretch. Though in my case, it was a joke instead of a misunderstanding, but it's still not a solid argument.Fine, you're mafia! I'M SORRY --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 10:29:43 AM #225: |
Hbthebattle posted... can i put people in your bookHB I gave you such an incredible power. Why didn't you make use of it? Don't like this at all --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 10:33:57 AM #226: |
Obellisk posted... Han, are you just avoiding the question I asked? I wasn't, but now I am, just to spite you. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:39:56 AM #227: |
PunishedBen posted... HB I gave you such an incredible power. Why didn't you make use of it?because as it just so happens i just got up and will catch up to like 150 posts now --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 10:40:15 AM #228: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... I wasn't, but now I am, just to spite you. it's a running theme so far this game. You are allowed to join the fun. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 10:40:59 AM #229: |
Obellisk posted... it's a running theme so far this game. You are allowed to join the fun.??? That sentence doesn't mean anything --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 10:41:31 AM #230: |
I'm kind of liking Sbell these last two pages, but I wasnt gonna say that out loud, just to spite him --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 10:41:51 AM #231: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... ??? Ben expressed spite towards me when it came to putting me in his BOOK. You have now expressed spite as well. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/11/22 10:43:14 AM #232: |
Oh, the irony of those two posts lol --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:48:59 AM #233: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... I was your number one defender in the game you got replaced by Plum. If you're being honest right now, then why aren't you recalling that? Saying I suspect you just for breathing? That's literal fantasy. You're making stuff up.Ok, hold on a minute. Most of your defense of BCT was well after he replaced out. This feels emotional-manipulation-esque to me. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 10:52:28 AM #234: |
anyway after catching up I actually like BCT this game, his anger feels pretty genuine. Ben, permission to inscribe him in the book? --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoppyTheNinja 10/11/22 10:52:37 AM #235: |
Kirby321 posted... That being said, I think you're rather quick to jump to conclusions. I don't necessarily agree with Han's train of thought on BCT, but it's worth pursuing just to see what happens.does he overreacted to pressure as town or is it exclusively as scum, because if it's the former then "testing the consistency of this pattern" isn't going to accomplish anything but makign him frustrated dunno i encounter this type of player archetype all the time where they freak out and get upset the moment someone suggests what they're doing is suspicious (usually it's me) and more often than not it's town who is frustrated with pressure and feels they're being treated unfairly. pressuring this type of player further only makse them get more defensive which causes people to double down and then they get yeeted and flip town and everyone blames them for reacting badly. basically pushing on that type of player isn't going to get anything useful out of them because it pulls them into a never-ending argument where if you leave them alone they'll be able to actually solve and towntell if they're town. ideally people would NOT have a conniption every time someone so much as looks at them sideways but as things are i don't see good reason to keep on harping on BCT Kirby321 posted... On another note, Poppy, Corrik, would you two mind explaining your votes?looked like he was sideline sniping at BCT's reaction to han, just being inflammatory to try to keep the argument going without actually adding anything to it --- i'm adding a signature so my posts don't look weird ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 10/11/22 10:53:22 AM #236: |
Han also ended day 1 that game by changing his mind about BCT/plum but still said the same things the following days, so I don't think it means anything here. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoppyTheNinja 10/11/22 10:55:33 AM #237: |
Kirby321 posted... You know whathe asked you about one thing that was seemingly contradictory in your posts, he wasn't even pushing you over it this actually does feel needlessly defensive --- i'm adding a signature so my posts don't look weird ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 10:57:37 AM #238: |
Hbthebattle posted... anyway after catching up I actually like BCT this game, his anger feels pretty genuine. Ben, permission to inscribe him in the book?You already have my permission! However, now that you're doing this please quote the post that stuck out to you as most genuine and sets off the idea that he is town confirmed --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 10:58:58 AM #239: |
To answer you SBell: "Is anyone Scum yet?" Yes, though I'm not sure who all it is. It would be a pretty dumb game of Mafia if there weren't any Scum. And that post reads as frustrated, not afraid. BCT as Scum didn't show nearly this level of angst when called Scum to his face. I don't see him as Scum at the moment. I don't like how you're working him, but I can't say for sure that it makes you Scum. I put you in the position of having to put your chips down, and frankly, I don't like your conclusion. That's said, I'd have to reread you to really be sure how I feel about you. Hbthebattle posted... Ok, hold on a minute. Most of your defense of BCT was well after he replaced out. This feels emotional-manipulation-esque to me. It is. I'm setting myself opposite of the people that made him upset in that game to see how that adjusts his thought processes. That said, I did think he was Town that game, and if I had more confidence in myself, Plum would not have been lynched, so there's that. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 10/11/22 11:00:49 AM #240: |
There was a single thing Kirby said that I didn't like but I'd have to go find it to remember what it is. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 11:01:01 AM #241: |
Anyway I'm feeling worst about Kirby right now, I think? A couple things
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PoppyTheNinja 10/11/22 11:02:27 AM #242: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... It is incorrect, yes. Red is referring to me saying he's always a good lynch, which, since mafia picked back up with Chris's experimental mafia where we were scum together, has been true in every single game except for 1.why's that b/c i'm not seeing anything that looks town from him --- i'm adding a signature so my posts don't look weird ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoppyTheNinja 10/11/22 11:07:41 AM #243: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... If I'm overreacting, then it's too an overreaction. I got called scum outright. That's an overreaction in and off itself. But... maybe I'm reading into that differently? IDK... but I'd never jump to such a conclusion that quickly. Big difference between pressure and accusation. i don't want to turn this into a mafia theory lecture but someone making an accusation very early on day 1 is, like, normal and there's plenty of time for people to change their minds you shouldn't let it get to you --- i'm adding a signature so my posts don't look weird ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoppyTheNinja 10/11/22 11:08:17 AM #244: |
##Unvote: red ##Vote: Kirby can roll w/ this --- i'm adding a signature so my posts don't look weird ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 11:12:02 AM #245: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... I don't like how you're working him, but I can't say for sure that it makes you Scum. I put you in the position of having to put your chips down, and frankly, I don't like your conclusion. That's said, I'd have to reread you to really be sure how I feel about you. Well there is little to read so that shouldn't take you too much time. As for "working him" It would appear that his current posting style forgets anything he said prior to his next current post. "I don't have enough info to scum hunt in 4 pages of posts" followed by "And I am Scum Hunting". Telling Sultan to start Scum Hunting and then telling me he has literally no idea what he's doing. There is a lot of "I'll say whatever I have to say to answer this post", this is a very defensive and afraid way of posting and I've yet to actually see an ounce of this "anger" you refer to. Wrap it all up with the first post "Why should i bother posting you all think i'm scum already" post. BCT isn't as daft as he'd like us to believe he is, or how you are currently seeing his behavior and chalking off as Town. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 11:14:17 AM #246: |
Obellisk posted... Sultan, BCTs first post was garbage for so many reasons. If scum or town, it's just a bad way to walk into a game. He's still green. Sultan. I do still want an answer to this post (Post 200) when you come back. Please and thank you. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 11:16:03 AM #247: |
Obellisk posted... There is a lot of "I'll say whatever I have to say to answer this post", this is a very defensive and afraid way of posting and I've yet to actually see an ounce of this "anger" you refer to. BlueCrystalTear posted... But, I will see you all on Day 2, seeing as every time I open my mouth day 1, it gets me in trouble for reasons that absolutely BAFFLE me (breathing, perhaps?), so I'm just going to learn my lesson and shut up.does this seem like it lacks "anger", considering BCT's history here, Sbell? --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/11/22 11:17:23 AM #248: |
PoppyTheNinja posted... he asked you about one thing that was seemingly contradictory in your posts, he wasn't even pushing you over itI agree its needlessly defense, but not necessarily that its a scum-tell of his, lol --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 10/11/22 11:20:15 AM #249: |
Hbthebattle posted... does this seem like it lacks "anger", considering BCT's history here, Sbell? Yes. I'd say its more afraid than angry. I think we've seen him get into a rage (anger) in the 2(3?) games he's been a part of. He's more concerned with how he'll look if he says things. I think a better exhibit of anger would be him responding to these posts which he's clearly choosing to step away from for fear of what might be gleaned. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/22 11:25:07 AM #250: |
Obellisk posted... He's more concerned with how he'll look if he says things.Even if this is true, is that automatically a scumtell? Is it not possible BCT is trying to play differently considering what happened last time? --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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