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Isquen
09/13/22 11:26:07 AM
#1:


Current votals
[3] Ctes - Ulti, Lopen, Chang
[1] Sbell - Kirby, (Chang)
[1] Lopen - (Poppy), Ctes
[0] Ulti - (Lopen)
[0] Poppy - (Kirby), (Lopen)
[0] Kirby - (Ctes)
[0] Red - (Ulti), (Poppy), (Chang)

With 9 alive, it requires 5 to lynch. Day ends tonight at 8 PM Eastern.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:02:08 PM
#4:


Did you know anything about night 0, Ulti?

Lopen claimed to be aware of night 0 existing through pm about his passive action. Why would just one town role be told so?

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Obellisk
09/13/22 12:04:07 PM
#6:


UltimaterializerX posted...
ctes, if you are town, a 1:1 trade to kill scum is fine. Stop melting down.

What was your claim again? Just miller watcher, right?


but is there any world where we lynch lopen after a scum ctes flip?

You just said you were paranoid about lopen bussing whole team. but are also saying a 1 for 1 is fine.

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:05:29 PM
#7:


I'm a natural POE lynch after Ulti, particularly if Rosh is still on the table at that point (as I think he will be). It's fine, really.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:06:27 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
ctes, if you are town, a 1:1 trade to kill scum is fine. Stop melting down.

What was your claim again? Just miller watcher, right?

Yes, but a watcher where people will be told if they are watched.

I'm not melting down, I'm just trying to convince people to make the right choice.

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MZero
09/13/22 12:06:58 PM
#9:


I am hammering in 10 minutes if there are no objections (other than from ctes of course)

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:07:08 PM
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Now the rest of you, did you know about the existence of a night 0?

I think Lopen slipped that info not knowing it wasn't common knowledge.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:08:10 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
If ctes flips town Lopen auto dies. If he flips scum, the game gets harder but I actually still think its Lopen scum plus Unknown Rosh.

Then you f***ing lynch him.

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:09:06 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Then you f***ing lynch him.

True

Good catch of your mate's slip there.

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Kirby321
09/13/22 12:09:09 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Starting to get paranoid Lopen bussed his entire team and this ctes stuff is a huge show for the scum flip. It would explain why he cared about Rosh long before he cares about scum.

Yeah... but we'll see how Lopen's claim holds up tomorrow. If he's faking it, he has to make the right guess between zero, one, two, or maybe even three people visiting him on N3.

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:10:32 PM
#18:


Ulti is being convinced to lynch me it's a miracle

Shame he doesn't matter here

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:10:45 PM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Now the rest of you, did you know about the existence of a night 0?

I think Lopen slipped that info not knowing it wasn't common knowledge.

Why are you even ignoring this, stop all being so bad.

To think Lopen might actually get to brag about this being good scum play. What a world.

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Kirby321
09/13/22 12:11:35 PM
#21:


##Unvote (for good measure)
##Vote: Ctes

I want gold for my shard and also to deny scum a possible gold bonus. If you don't want it, Ulti, then I'll gladly take it.

No point letting this day go on if Ctes is just gonna repeat himself about how bad we all are.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:11:37 PM
#22:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Wait what is this about night zero?

In Lopen claim when we massed he claimed he was also told no one visited him n0.

I was not aware if any n0 at all.

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:12:11 PM
#23:


I will brag about this town play and scum team will deny because the setup was "unfair" and Han will deny because he got the Corrik hint right

But I know I played well

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Kirby321
09/13/22 12:12:22 PM
#24:


My role says nothing about Night 0, nor was I allowed to use my abilities before the day began.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:12:41 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
No point letting this day go on if Ctes is just gonna repeat himself about how bad we all are.

I'm repeating myself because you didn't answer my actual question jfc

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Kirby321
09/13/22 12:13:38 PM
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Constantly berating players for being stupid does not a cooperative town make :P

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:14:36 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Constantly berating players for being stupid does not a cooperative town make :P

Sure, but I'm also putting points out there at the same time and most of you have decided to ignore most for no real reason.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:15:33 PM
#29:


None of you ever get to say this was a fine mislynch because it's 1v1. You're killing your best role.

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changmas
09/13/22 12:15:50 PM
#30:


Stop ?

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:16:09 PM
#31:


Maybe. We don't actually know if the hammer is compulsive or not

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:16:46 PM
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Like, you don't go "if we're wrong it's fine" if you have doubts, you reconsider.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:17:25 PM
#33:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Gimme caysh!

Well too bad for you.

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Lopen
09/13/22 12:17:54 PM
#34:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Like, you don't go "if we're wrong it's fine" if you have doubts, you reconsider.

Absolutely true. Ulti is scum.

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Kirby321
09/13/22 12:17:54 PM
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Ulti bro the plan was to let MZero hammer wtf

... Assuming the hammer is even going off

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changmas
09/13/22 12:18:17 PM
#36:


mzero come get your money chief

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:18:45 PM
#37:


Lopen posted...
Absolutely true. Ulti is scum.

By this logic, Kirby would be too.

Kirby321 posted...
Ulti bro the plan was to let MZero hammer wtf

... Assuming the hammer is even going off

Then you can unvote yourself you know.

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:19:51 PM
#38:


Also none of you ever get to excuse yourself by saying setup trap, no more than I don't if there were indeed three millers.

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PunishedBen
09/13/22 12:21:24 PM
#39:


STOP (caps)

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MZero
09/13/22 12:21:38 PM
#40:


##Vote: ctes

if this is still going


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PunishedBen
09/13/22 12:22:15 PM
#41:


CTES HAS BEEN HAMMERED

Current votals
[5] Ctes - (Ulti), Lopen, Chang, Kirby, Ulti, The Hammerer
[1] Lopen - (Poppy), Ctes
[0] Sbell - (Kirby), (Chang)
[0] Ulti - (Lopen)
[0] Poppy - (Kirby), (Lopen)
[0] Kirby - (Ctes)
[0] Red - (Ulti), (Poppy), (Chang)

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ctesjbuvf
09/13/22 12:22:35 PM
#42:


Man it was ridiculous to be mislynched as scanned town by a dead cop with godfather also dead, but at least Chris looked very town then. This might take the prize.

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Isquen
09/13/22 12:24:38 PM
#43:


NO POSTING DURING STOP

Thank you :)

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Isquen
09/13/22 12:35:06 PM
#44:


Ctes has been GANKED! They were...

LESALE DEATHBRINGER, TOWN Miller Watcher
"I only wanted to kill... everyone..."

You are a giant banana-snake-viper... thing. Despite all appearances (and sinister attitude,) you are extremely capable of stopping foes flat without actually killing them, since really, who plays carry Venomancer anymore? You, instead, are a right nuisance when it comes to enemies pushing towards your Ancient.

As a Miller, you scan as Mafia for the purposes of any alignment detecting abilities.

Plague Ward - As a night action, you may visit a living player or the secret shop to place a plague ward. This ward watches over the player, and you will be notified of the identity of any players visiting your target; anyone spotted by this will also be notified that they were seen, however, as Plague Wards are known to spit.

It is now night and the shop has adjusted its inventory. Night actions will be due by 7 PM Eastern tomorrow. All players receive their passive gold.

I will be reposting the shop inventory later when I am off work.

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Isquen
09/13/22 11:18:04 PM
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A reminder of the shop inventory, apologies for the delay:

Clarity Potion - 50 gold
- A tiny vial of mana-regenerating liquid. If you use this, you will be able to use any "once per game" ability an additional time *providing* you are not targeted by someone from an opposing faction at all for a period of time.

Trusty Shovel - 100 gold - Fancy yourself a bit macabre? Try this reusable tool! With this item, you may use a night action to visit a lynched dead player and attempt to claim an item they had. There are no guarantees you will be successful, however, and you may not perform any other night actions if you do this.

Listener's Wards - 150 gold - A number of severed earlobes attached to a fetish shaped like a tent spoke. Place this at your feet as a free action and you will be able to hear anyone approaching you in the night. This also amplifies your sense of hearing during the day, and you'll be able to hear anyone else placing a ward, or doing something similar - or you might hear yourself moving around with better clarity. These experimental wards expire at the end of the next day or night phase, or if they are destroyed by a method of detection.

Healing Salve - 200 gold. A flask full of a viscous green syrupy oil. Using this on a target as a day or night action greatly increases their health regeneration, though any incoming damage or poison will dispel the effect.

Blessing - Aghanim's Shard - 500 gold - A small, sapphire-blue fractured bit of crystal or gemstone. These are able to be freely consumed to unlock the hidden potential of a hero, or used as a free action on a trusted ally. Passing them still consumes your relevant day or night action.

Blink Dagger - 600 gold - Another reusable tool built-to-last; once every other day, gripping the hilt of this sacrificial blade will grant short-range teleportation for a time; if used as a day action, any votes not already on a wagon will not be able to affect you for three hours. If used as a night action instead, almost anyone targeting you overnight will fail (though you will be seen teleporting away.) A coordinated gank attempt will put this item on cooldown, and you can still receive items from living players if this is used. (And no, the day action will not be kept a secret.)

Linken's Lotus Orb - 900 gold - A bright orb/sphere with a floral motif in the loosest sense of the word, purchasing this passively has a chance to block a harmful ability (by roleblocking someone targeting you.) If you use it as a day action instead, it will remove any debuffs the target is suffering from, though the recipient will have a noticeable mirrored-blue sphere appear around them. If either the active is used or the passive triggers successfully, the passive component goes away and recharges after a full day passes.

Divine Rapier - 3333 gold - a weapon favored by the gods, so powerful it can never be owned by any one person for long - however, even in a weakling's hands it can topple mountains (by stabbing them, apparently.) Carrying this allows you to kill any living player of your choice immediately as an action; carrying this, however, also reveals your role and alignment to all players, and if you are targeted by anyone on an opposing faction, you will be killed, with your killer immediately choosing to claim an item for their own.

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Isquen
09/14/22 8:00:22 PM
#46:


Changmas has died! They were...

SUN WUKONG, TOWN Vanilla
"I need no introduction!"

You are Sun Wukong, the Monkey King; you've got the usual trappings as a Journey of the West expy - extending staff, cheeky misdirection, and you're... a giant, anthropomorphic monkey. Look, I'm sure everyone here has played League, or watched Dragon Ball Z, or played Warframe, or beat him up in a Stormblood dungeon in FFXIV... What I'm getting at is you're nothing special. Sorry.

As a Vanilla, you have no special abilities.
...except an Aghanim's Shard was used.
"Tree Dance" - Wukong may use this ability as a night action to target another player. They will invisibly spring from tree to tree to surveil the target, determining the identity of any other visitors to the target.

Also, Kirby has been slain! They were...
SHADOW DEMON, TOWN Miller Decoy
"Who is the minion here?"

Deep purples, pinkish reds, and black; despite having the visual design and literally being an ancient evil incarnate, you are somehow one of the most overlooked heroes in Dota 2. This is likely because in public games, almost your entire impact revolves around playing the long con, with no up-front burst damage to speak of, and as such you're usually played as a support, since your shadow magics can benefit (or hinder) your allies as well. After all, successful Shadow Demon play is attained by playing the long con to sway people to your cabal; in another game, you'd probably be Mafia-aligned, but there's no "good" or "evil" here, only "you" versus "them."

As a Miller, you scan as Mafia for anyone capable of scanning your alignment.

Disruption - At night, you may, as a night action, target a living player and create an illusion of them under your control. You may then direct that illusion to visit any other player. That illusion is then able to visit any other player; if the illusion is not directed to visit another player, it appears to be visiting you. This illusion is incapable of doing anything else, and will vanish before daybreak.

You may also self-target with this illusion.
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The Living
1. Lopen
2. MZero
3. Obellisk
4. PoppyTheNinja
5. Red13n
6. UltimaterializerX

The Ganked
(to be updated, working)

With 6 alive, it requires 4 to lynch. Day ends when that occurs or at 8 PM Eastern Friday 9/16

It is now daytime.


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Lopen
09/14/22 8:01:45 PM
#47:


Two things. I can't fully elaborate for a few hours but please do not end the day until I've had time to elaborate.
1. I am town. Everything I said yesterday was the truth. My role results were as said and I reread my role PM and Ctes's flip to confirm there wasn't some sneaky sneaky gotcha interaction.
2. I believe Ctes was scum and he has a role or item that makes his role appear as Miller Watcher on flip. It's very lame but role madness. I bought some shovels last night to possibly uncover the mystery if it's item linked, which I will pass out today to willing trusted diggers, but I couldn't dig last night and it can only be done at night so yeah.
I have some theories to share to convince you guys of number two if you let me live a few hours. But I am willing to be lynched today because I'm a natural process of elimination lynch at this point and I think there are only two anti-town roles left. Why I want some time to convince you in spite of this is because we're both going to show up as town so knowing which town flip is legitimate makes the game easier to solve. Also in case my logic makes no sense then we probably shouldn't lynch me otherwise we'll lose. Not that I'll be able to convince anyone haha.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:04:11 PM
#48:


Well I had that pretyped but with two nk now we lose even if ctes was scum

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:07:50 PM
#49:


I was going to wait to stp but it has no point now with Kirby dead

I was visited by 1 last night. Confirms my role is sane and doesn't just give non results each day.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:08:24 PM
#50:


Only scum pretypes opening posts and then telegraphs like they didn't read the flips first.

I refuse to believe that your results were falsified two days in a row and you weren't notified in any way based on your role.

##vote: Lopen

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