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red13n
09/14/22 8:09:23 PM
#51:


Obellisk posted...
Only scum pretypes opening posts and then telegraphs like they didn't read the flips first.

I refuse to believe that your results were falsified two days in a row and you weren't notified in any way based on your role.

##vote: Lopen

Whoa hold up. Hes probably scum but let everyone check in first.

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red13n
09/14/22 8:10:11 PM
#52:


Lopen posted...
2. I believe Ctes was scum and he has a role or item that makes his role appear as Miller Watcher on flip. It's very lame but role madness.
Are we literally going with the "host used a super banned role" defense? Come on Lopen.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:11:20 PM
#53:


Note that changs flip showed he is indeed Watcher on upgrade and I think that's one of the hints we're supposed to use to determine that ctes's role doesn't exist

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:12:29 PM
#54:


It's not quite super banned red. I think this role was forced to be Miller Watcher I don't think it was a doppelganger

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red13n
09/14/22 8:13:12 PM
#55:


##vote: Lopen

Also I can vote now.

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red13n
09/14/22 8:13:15 PM
#56:




##unvote

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:13:39 PM
#57:


The hints I think were supposed to use are the fact that there are no other power roles in the game there are three Millers and that someone can upgrade into a watcher.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:14:35 PM
#58:


red13n posted...
##vote: Lopen

Also I can vote now.


was this something you absolutely couldn't do previously? and are you still am auto hammer?

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red13n
09/14/22 8:14:37 PM
#59:


That said I have raid don't do dumb shit while I'm distracted because while today is likely simple, tomorrow is not and we don't have a shot to be wrong.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:15:06 PM
#60:


if I hear Lopen talk about hints 1 more time.

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PoppyTheNinja
09/14/22 8:15:52 PM
#61:


sigh

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:15:59 PM
#62:


In a sense it's to kind of dummy proof the game from Lynch all power roles as well to give the scum team some fake claims as well. I also think it's the only purpose of this shovel item. I am certain that sBell is Roshan and ulti is scum right now. Sbell will win the tie as he is unkillable so he doesn't care.

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PoppyTheNinja
09/14/22 8:17:41 PM
#63:


the amount of extra kills in this setup is seriously scuffed

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:18:42 PM
#64:


Now the plus here is if we Lynch scum here today scum will no longer have a night kill and thus we can waste a lunch tomorrow Roshan checking me before we Lynch sbell

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:19:09 PM
#65:


Lopen are you saying it's 4 / 1 / 1 right now or are you tossing ulti under the bus and it's 3 / 2 / 1.

Also still not Roshan.

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PoppyTheNinja
09/14/22 8:19:33 PM
#66:


not buying anything lopen says obviously, vote is there in spirit, will wait to hear from everyone else

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:20:19 PM
#67:


Poppy Mzero red town
Ulti scum
Sbell rosh

This I'm sure of

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:21:18 PM
#68:


Lopen posted...
Poppy Mzero red town
Ulti scum
Sbell rosh

This I'm sure of

so still a toss up where that final player lands then? could be town... could be scum...

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:21:36 PM
#69:


It's 4/1/1

I think Roshan kills every other day so if we get the scum today this is very winnable

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:23:12 PM
#70:


Lopen posted...
It's 4/1/1

I think Roshan kills every other day so if we get the scum today this is very winnable


you also "thought" spending 2 days ok corriks thoughts was smart mafia, so there's that.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:24:33 PM
#71:


##Vote: Ulti

So I have two shovels to give away. We can use them to dig up ctes night phase. Are there any Town members who would not like a shovel.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:25:15 PM
#72:


Obellisk posted...
you also "thought" spending 2 days ok corriks thoughts was smart mafia, so there's that.

Ulti is scum. It's tough being the smartest one in the room but oh well

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:26:17 PM
#73:


Lopen posted...
Ulti is scum. It's tough being the smartest one in the room but oh well


Present the case, please.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:27:59 PM
#74:


I will later when I have time but I've already talked about it at length and it's more than just following Corrik vote

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:29:32 PM
#75:


Also Town members need to not use their day action because they need to pass the shovels I bought. I can only give to one person but I can give as many items as I want so I'm going to get someone two shovels which they will give one more shovel to someone else

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:30:12 PM
#76:


I'm just trying to find our protection in this role madness game besides 1 self preserved role.

Ulti, claimed BG would be the only thing close to it.

Or are we to believe that only protection comes from items.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:30:42 PM
#77:


I would like to give the shovels to Poppy and red. Mzero can use his stack of money to buy the Blinky dagger or something to become hard to night kill

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:31:52 PM
#78:


So if the region items are actually dock saves like I thought we have a bunch of 200 GPDoc saves in the shop. Keep in mind Ulti isn't even real protection he doesn't stop kills

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:32:17 PM
#79:


Health regeneration items I meant to say.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:34:17 PM
#80:


we don't necessarily know what that means though

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:35:37 PM
#81:


I completely agree but my interpretation was always that it was Doc save. But that might just be because my item gave me two uses so I had a lot of time to digest the meaning.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:36:23 PM
#82:


Question for all 5 of you or at least those that have played thus game. Is it possible we are dealing with 3 / 1 / 1 / 1. and there are 2 3rd parties.

Everyone was speaking about Roshan even before Corriks flip. is it possible there is another flavor that could be a 3rd party?

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:37:43 PM
#83:


Anyway like sure maybe there's two scum in the game. I understand you have less information than me you don't know my role is what it is because only I have the PM. But Think if I'm not bussing my scum mate who is my scum mate.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:42:44 PM
#84:


3/1/1/1 Doesn't make sense from a flavor perspective

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:47:04 PM
#85:


So here are some things to consider

Does my claim make sense to fake claim in a mass that I pushed for
Ask yourself that for the case of me being Roshan especially

Now consider me being scum. Also consider ulti being town. Who is my scum mate if not ulti. Poppy liked this pairing math stop so you should try and figure out a scum mate that makes sense for me if it's not ulti


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Isquen
09/14/22 8:49:37 PM
#87:


Ahem.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:49:41 PM
#88:


ulti I know you want to look like town but against Roshan you will lose so maybe you should try and Lynch Roshan instead

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:49:50 PM
#89:


##unvote

wohhh there... I want him dead but I don't want to end that early.

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:53:34 PM
#91:


If you all think I'm right about Roshan getting a kill every other day we could nl too. Then we get a night phase to dig up Ctes and expose his deception

I would much rather bus my scummate ulti though so we don't have to take a night kill tonight

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Lopen
09/14/22 8:54:55 PM
#93:


Ulti humoring that I'm right it's a perspective slip by the way

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:58:14 PM
#95:


Lopen posted...
Ulti humoring that I'm right it's a perspective slip by the way

discussing hypotheticals you've opened up is not humoring you are right. Nor does it mean anything for alignment.

I disagree with this comment and believe that it's actually a projection of your own non town alignment.

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Obellisk
09/14/22 8:58:52 PM
#96:


Hey Ulti. who'd you BG

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Lopen
09/14/22 9:01:37 PM
#98:


Obellisk posted...
discussing hypotheticals you've opened up is not humoring you are right

He said if you're right and that broken role exists in the setup no harm in losing to me that seems like humoring I'm right

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Obellisk
09/14/22 9:03:27 PM
#100:


Lopen posted...
He said if you're right and that broken role exists in the setup no harm in losing to me that seems like humoring I'm right

ok. in order to discuss any hypothetical situation you need to humor an argument.

Still doesn't mean what you think it means.

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