Poll of the Day > A Guild of Calamitous Geekery

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I know the Legion of Geeks were scattered to the four winds, but it might make sense to just geek topic some shit instead of making new topics.

That or I'll make a Beware the Batman topic. I'd completely avoided this show because it looked terrible -- the art sucked, I've never been an Anarky fan given he seems over-capable (ie, Batman-level stuff at times without any Batman training), etc -- but I wound up watching a few episodes and... while it's not amazing, I've enjoyed them.

Count_Drachma posted...

Beware the Batman

Was that the one where he traveled through time in one episode or am I thinking of Batman Brave and the Bold.

Was that the one where he traveled through time in one episode or am I thinking of Batman Brave and the Bold.

Given what I've seen of Beware, I doubt it has time travel. However, I know BatB had a few episodes with time travel, so... it's probably BatB. But I think a few series had time travel.

This one was the CGI one from 2013 which was canceled after a season.

great idea for a thread Zeus

last time someone tried making a Geek thread and they werent Wave it died miserably because everyone had blocked them

glad that wont be the case here!

@ParanoidObsessive
@TheWaveMaster
@Eternity

Man, miss these topics, despite me not contributing much.

Um, let's see...after almost 100 hours in Elden Ring, I can conclude that this game kinda sucks.

...actually really liking Beware the Batman so far. Yes, there are some storytelling issues. Yes, the stupid laser-guns are distracting. But the show has mostly used rogues I disliked in ways I've kinda enjoyed -- Anarky, Humpty Dumpty, and -- to a lesser extent -- Professor Pyg (whose usage I've liked, but he's Pyg in name only).

Meanwhile, over in wrassling land, AEW is imploding... again.

JigsawTDCII posted...

great idea for a thread Zeus

last time someone tried making a Geek thread and they werent Wave it died miserably because everyone had blocked them

glad that wont be the case here!

Aren't you happy I haven't blocked your alt so you can contribute? ;)

Plus the only worthwhile person in all of Gamefaqs to have me ignored or blocked is Keyblader, who'd gone inactive from these topics before now. But keep trolling. Maybe you'll earn your way back onto my list.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

@ParanoidObsessive

For the record, I've mentioned this in the past but I never respond to @ notifications. I have them disabled and never see them.



CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Man, miss these topics, despite me not contributing much.

I miss the time when I could actually enjoy being a geek.

Nearly every geeky thing I've ever enjoyed has been turned into something I hate. Comic books, comic films, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, D&D, RPG games in general, most video game franchises...

It kind of feels like I angered a dark god about 10 years ago, and they decided then and there "I will spend the next decade slowly destroying everything that asshole has ever loved."

Count_Drachma posted...

AEW is imploding... again.

What happened now?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Nearly every geeky thing I've ever enjoyed has been turned into something I hate. Comic books, comic films, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, D&D, RPG games in general, most video game franchises...

Did we get into a argument maybe, cause I'm pretty happy with most of those things.

EDIT: it would have been KotoMurk or Yoda964 as this account don't go back that far.

KodyKeir posted...

What happened now?

CM Punk decided to be CM Punk, to the surprise of absolutely no one who's been paying attention.



KodyKeir posted...

Did we get into a argument maybe, cause I'm pretty happy with most of those things.

Not that I remember, but probably not because I really don't go around ranting about how terrible things are as much anymore, as I just sort of wallow in a sort of sad resignation that everything I've ever loved has been taken away from me and dipped in shit. Passion has given way to apathy - you can only beat a man so long before he stops coming back.

I mean, I could probably make an even longer list than the one I posted if I sat down and really thought about it. The world hates me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/7/AAFUswAADpyx.jpg

Anybody watching the new season of Archer? Back to it's roots sans Jessica Waters but with Nandor the Relentless as their boss. Lana as a divorcee single Mom opposite Archer just there trying to be a father to their daughter who kicked ass in the last episode, the rest of the gang does bring the moments, hits the highlights.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

For the record, I've mentioned this in the past but I never respond to @ notifications. I have them disabled and never see them.

Ohhhh, right, right.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Nearly every geeky thing I've ever enjoyed has been turned into something I hate. Comic books, comic films, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, D&D, RPG games in general, most video game franchises...

I feel that about somethings. Anything SW related these days I generally detest. I haven't been really into a RPG/RPG universe in a while (well, the Xenoblade games still kinda currently). The Elden Ring lore/world does very little for me, but the terrible mechanics of the games could be the driving force behind this. Otherwise, I have have my pleasures.

I have zero interest in The Rings of Power or House of Dragon, that said. I do want to check out The Sandman, that said.

Hey Gleeks, Central Park is back with three episodes to start it's third season.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Ohhhh, right, right.

he claims that, but he literally responds to every single one lol

Also, if he had tags disabled it wouldnt let you tag him in the first place.

JigsawTDCII posted...

he claims that, but he literally responds to every single one

Nah. Only saw this topic because it had Geek in the title and it was on the main page. So I was coming in whether or not someone tried to @ me or not.

Basically, if you're @ing me I'm either never going to see it anyway, or I'm only going to see it if I was already reading the topic regardless so you're pretty much wasting your time.

I'm actually way more likely to respond to PMs, though I don't look at those all that often either.

The only other person who thinks I'm lying about that is helly, and you really don't want to be a helly. That's a terrible thing to be.



JigsawTDCII posted...

Also, if he had tags disabled it wouldnt let you tag him in the first place.

This isn't actually true, so you're pretty much full of shit.

Saw the more recent trailer for Black Adam now. Still kinda hyped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXEOXVZIQVM

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Nearly every geeky thing I've ever enjoyed has been turned into something I hate. Comic books, comic films, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Lord of the Rings, D&D, RPG games in general, most video game franchises...

It's pretty amazing how quickly a few of those went off the rails.

What happened now?

The EVPs and their buddies had been talking about Punk to the dirtsheets and Hangman Page went into business for himself on live tv (among other things). Punk very publicly responded to that stuff, most notably in a media scrum after All Out 2022. The EVPs and friends decided to take one of Punk's suggestions about "finding him" a little too seriously, which led to a fight in the locker room where everybody involved was suspended -- and had their belts stripped (all of which had been won that same night) -- and there's currently an inquiry into the matter which may lead to additional punishments.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

This isn't actually true, so you're pretty much full of shit.

Gasp. Are you saying Fakesaw is trolling when that's literally all Fakesaw ever does? (Well, sometimes he mixes it up with harassment -- variety of awfulness and all.)

Anybody watching the new season of Archer? Back to it's roots sans Jessica Waters but with Nandor the Relentless as their boss. Lana as a divorcee single Mom opposite Archer just there trying to be a father to their daughter who kicked ass in the last episode, the rest of the gang does bring the moments, hits the highlights.

Still behind on Archer. Will likely catch up eventually.

Count_Drachma posted...

Saw the more recent trailer for Black Adam now. Still kinda hyped.

The optimistic view is that maybe Warner Bros has finally turned a corner and have figured out how to make movies that don't suck, and the future will look brighter (which is nice, because Marvel's a wreck now).

The more pessimistic view is that Black Adam only looks as good as it does because Dwayne tends to have tons of creative control over any project he works on now (and he's a producer on this one), so maybe it's only good because of his influence, and all the movies he's not in will still suck.

We'll see.



Count_Drachma posted...

The EVPs and their buddies had been talking about Punk to the dirtsheets and Hangman Page went into business for himself on live tv (among other things). Punk very publicly responded to that stuff, most notably in a media scrum after All Out 2022. The EVPs and friends decided to take one of Punk's suggestions about "finding him" a little too seriously, which led to a fight in the locker room where everybody involved was suspended -- and had their belts stripped (all of which had been won that same night) -- and there's currently an inquiry into the matter which may lead to additional punishments.

That's certainly how Punk himself would probably explain things. Sadly, it seems like almost no one else seems to be that generous about his role in the situation. And people have constantly been pointing out all the problems with his viewpoint (and behavior).

For starters, the (single) promo he was apparently pissed about was barely anything, almost no one really gave a shit about it at the time, and nearly everyone forgot about it after, while he continued to stir over it for months at a time. And Punk's repeatedly gone into business for himself in response to it, to the point where he's been way worse than anything anyone else has done. And he complained about other people jeopardizing big money draws when he's literally the only one in the entire mess who's actually jeopardized anything at all.

What makes it worse is that, as people have pointed out, it's pretty clear he rehearsed that rant in his own head beforehand (and deliberately went off on the tirade - it wasn't prompted or triggered by anything spontaneous), so he went into business for himself knowing full-well it was going to stir shit up way worse. Mainly because Tony Khan has done nothing to rein in Punk's ego (and a lot of things to inflate it), so Punk was probably assuming he's pretty much bulletproof at this point and could easily get away with it. There's a good chance he still assumes that (and doesn't see himself as having done anything wrong) because he got injured (again), which means he wasn't stripped of his title for disciplinary reasons as much as because he's going to be out for at least 8 months (during which time he can't be fired without prompting legal issues).

Telling people to "find him and say stuff to his face" is also kind of rich, considering his solution to the issues he has was apparently to completely avoid the people involved and complain about them in ways he knows for a fact they completely cannot respond to directly. And when they actually do go to try and talk to him in person, he he either tries to avoid them (his own story) or starts throwing punches almost immediately (their story), while his friend starts throwing chairs and biting people (both versions of the story).

And for all his whining about "the dirt sheets", most of them have pointed out they didn't even get the info he's mad about from the EVPs at all, he straight up misquoted what some of them even said (as Alverez pointed out directly to his face at one point), and most of the Colt Cabana stuff is assumptions the fanbase easily put together themselves, not "lies told by the dirt sheets". So for someone complaining about other people not getting the story right, he seems to be pointing a lot of fingers at the wrong people for things they didn't even do because he doesn't seem to have a very good grasp of what's actually going on. Not that that actually matters to Punk.

And then there's the fact that most of the locker room apparently don't want Punk back at this point because he was already pissing lots of other people off other than just the EVPs or Colt Cabana's friends. Other than a few people Punk is close with (like FTR), it doesn't seem like anyone is supporting his side of the story (or him).

It kind of doesn't help that nearly every single thing Punk is whining about is stuff he himself has done, only worse. Which is why the fun new game online is to go back through his Tweets and point out all the ones that make him look like a huge hypocrite (there's a lot of them).

Regardless of whether or not anyone else in the story is actually at fault or not, Punk himself is responsible for about 90% of the current shitstorm. Which is why even a lot of fans who really loved him aren't on his side now. And why people are starting to recontextualize all of the problems he had in WWE as maybe not being as much WWE or Vince's fault as people used to think they were. Triple H's comment about "He's your problem now" is starting to look more and more prescient.

Punk's pretty much a tantrum-throwing narcissist with zero self-awareness and a penchant for burning every single bridge he crosses. And it's starting to look like it was never a question of "if" he was going to have issues in AEW, but more just a question of "when". Because apparently he's incapable of not having issues.

Realistically, this ends with him getting fired in about 8 months (and would probably end with him getting fired now if he wasn't injured). About the only thing that's going to prevent that is if he does a radical change of personality in the next year and offers up a huge mea culpa (which he won't do, because he's Punk), or if Tony continues to fanboy and keep his tongue firmly up Punk's ass, letting him get away with it and enabling him even further (which would be a catastrophically stupid thing for Tony to do, especially now that WWE is reviving - it'd make all the WCW comparisons become even more apt).

What up nerds

Niantic, the creator of Pokemon Go, is going to be releasing an AR Marvel game

https://marvelworldofheroes.com/

Considering they've only had success with one franchised game -- and even that one isn't great -- I'm not exactly expecting big things here.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The optimistic view is that maybe Warner Bros has finally turned a corner and have figured out how to make movies that don't suck, and the future will look brighter (which is nice, because Marvel's a wreck now).

The more pessimistic view is that Black Adam only looks as good as it does because Dwayne tends to have tons of creative control over any project he works on now (and he's a producer on this one), so maybe it's only good because of his influence, and all the movies he's not in will still suck.

We'll see.

tbh, I don't see any one film as being a predictor for the DC film franchise's director as a whole, unless it's bringing in new talent who are taking over the direction of that franchise.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

That's certainly how Punk himself would probably explain things. Sadly, it seems like almost no one else seems to be that generous about his role in the situation. And people have constantly been pointing out all the problems with his viewpoint (and behavior).

Long story short, you're far into the Kenny & the Bucks' camp despite the fact we keep seeing issues like these from them, particularly when they were butting heads with Cody?

These problems will keep popping up so long as the EVPs are in power and constantly going into business for themselves.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And then there's the fact that most of the locker room apparently don't want Punk back at this point because he was already pissing lots of other people off other than just the EVPs or Colt Cabana's friends. Other than a few people Punk is close with (like FTR), it doesn't seem like anyone is supporting his side of the story (or him).

Which is a perception created by the EVPs -- and the dirtsheets doing their bidding -- and echoes a lot of other previous things they did, including being a carbon copy of Cody.

Like I've said elsewhere, the "Elite" is what you'd get if you took the Kliq, but removed the talent, personality, charisma, and every positive quality -- just a bunch of douches fucking over the company to stay on top while using their clout to bully the locker room. They've gone of their way to bury talent and, if CM Punk hadn't joined, guys like FTR still wouldn't be featured much on tv (although the "Elite" managed to not include them in the game)

papercup posted...

What up nerds

*gasp* Nerds?!?! This is a geek topic, not a nerd topic.

Oh hey, geek topic.

Count_Drachma posted...

Long story short, you're far into the Kenny & the Bucks' camp despite the fact we keep seeing issues like these from them, particularly when they were butting heads with Cody?

Regardless of whether you like the Bucks/Kenny or hate them, or assume they're entirely blameless or totally guilty of tons of things, it really doesn't change the fact that in this case Punk is ridiculously worse than them in every possible way that matters, and is pretty much the least professional person in the whole mess in spite of whining about how unprofessional other people are. I'm not saying they're entirely blameless (because that's murky as hell he said/she said bullshit). I'm saying Punk absolutely is.

Regardless of whether or not someone else is a saint or a criminal, if you take a shit on their carpet you are still an asshole.

And like I said, it's not just Kenny/the Bucks/Hangman/etc or people directly attached to them who are pointing out how much of a shit Punk can be/has been. Plenty of other people have been firing shots into that particular melee, and almost none of them are on Punk's side at all.

Hell, there's at least a few theories going around that a lot of stuff being leaked isn't coming from the Elite at all as much as it's coming from Jericho, who has always had a pretty strong line to Meltzer when it comes to leaking (and who would be pretty neutral in this particular scenario). And Sean Ross Sapp has his own sources and has always been one of the more reliable journalists in the business, so it's not like this is 100% coming from Meltzer (allowing Cornette to dismiss it all as "Uncle Dave" being friends with the Bucks).

Almost everyone involved has said they've heard tons of things, and almost none of it from the Elite themselves. Which is why they've kind of called out Punk for being full of shit on that front as well.



Count_Drachma posted...

These problems will keep popping up so long as the EVPs are in power and constantly going into business for themselves.

Except that's not even remotely the issue here, and is really only the spin Punk himself put on it to justify his own tantrum.

I know you're a firm card-carrying member of the cult of Cornette and are right there with him swearing Kenny is the Antichrist because he wrestled a blow-up doll more than a decade ago and no one should ever forgive or forget because wrasslin' is srs bzns, but that viewpoint has always been kind of full of shit in its own way. And it completely blinds people with that mindset to any objective reality.

And to be brutally honest, even if the Elite were all sneaking manipulative politicking backstabbing villains (which almost no one other than Punk and maybe Cornette are saying is the case), the blame still wouldn't be on them as much as it is on Tony Khan. Because it's his job to keep a lid on this sort of BS, and for the last few weeks it seems like he's been gleefully stoking the flames because he loved the idea of having his own version of Bret/Shawn (which people have been pointing out is a terrible idea). Which is what empowered Punk to whip his dick out and piss on the birthday cake in the first place.

There've been multiple issues backstage lately that have absolutely nothing to do with the Elite or their friends (the MJF debacle, Eddie and Sammy, the Thunder Rosa mess, people like Miro and Black grumbling a bit, etc). Tony needs to get his house in order a bit, especially now that HHH is in power on the other side and the grass is starting to look greener and greener elsewhere.

He also needs to remove about three feet worth of tongue out of Punk's asshole, because when you spend most of your time talking about how much you love one specific person or how important they are or how much of a fan of their work you are, it's not entirely surprising that they're going to assume they can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it (again, see also Shawn Michaels).



Count_Drachma posted...

Which is a perception created by the EVPs -- and the dirtsheets doing their bidding -- and echoes a lot of other previous things they did, including being a carbon copy of Cody.

Except plenty of other wrestlers (not directly connected to "the EVPs") have said similar things or alluded to stuff in interviews (ie, not the "dirt sheets").

(And constantly whining about the dirt sheets makes you sound less like you're parroting Cornette and more like you're parroting Bruce Pritchard - which is an even worse step down.)

At this point it seems like the only people on Punk's side are a couple of the really young wrestlers who he's offered advice to (like Jade), FTR (who seem to be friends with him just out of their shared love of Bret Hart), and Ace Steel (who is deep in his own bucket of shit right now for throwing chairs and biting people).

As Booker T once said about Punk years ago, if you have to go around telling people you're the locker room leader, you're not the locker room leader. And that seems to be one of the things that's put a cactus up his ass so badly - he feels like everyone should respect him and lick his taint the way Tony Khan does, but plenty of people in the back simply don't respect him all that much.



Count_Drachma posted...

Like I've said elsewhere, the "Elite" is what you'd get if you took the Kliq, but removed the talent, personality, charisma, and every positive quality

And like plenty of other people have pointed out, Punk is kind of what you get when someone who wants to be 90s Bret Hart winds up behaving a lot more like 90s Shawn Michaels instead.

But again, the rest of that is the disingenuous Cornette spiel at work there regardless. Because you can say that you don't like the Elite as people. You can say you don't like their style of work. But saying they have absolutely no talent or charisma (in the face of the tons of people who would disagree with you) kind of makes you absolutely full of shit (and it's the sort of mentality that has led a lot of modern wrestling fans seeing Cornette as complete joke now).

Like it or not - and no matter how much some people might wish otherwise - it's not the 1970s anymore. And you can't really put the kayfabe genie back in the bottle. Wrestling needs to evolve, or wrestling dies.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Punk himself is responsible for about 90% of the current shitstorm.

Sounds like.
ParanoidObsessive posted...

Punk is kind of what you get when someone who wants to be 90s Bret Hart winds up behaving a lot more like 90s Shawn Michaels instead

Was 90's Bret better then he his today, guy keeps pulling up to the Saddledome and parking in front of the hydrant.

Rick and Morty just Inceptioned Die Hard in a fantastic episode.

Really loved Harley Quinn this season, Ivy got far more powerful, Joker became Mayor, and Harley remembered she's a doctor; plus the ensemble cast really had some growth moments. Tony Hale returned as Dr. Psycho for a couple of episodes where they enter Bruce's mind.

Archer is killing it too, blackout drunk, saved some sea turtles, and not a scratch on him.

If you are not watching Lower Decks, that's okay too, but it is pretty great that we get fan service from the show itself.

Resident Alien is back for the second half of it's season, Alan Tudyk is on fire right now.

Rings of Power is good.

I've been reading Tolkien since I was nine and understand the balance of creating believable characters from an authour whose very prose was poetic in it's composition. This is good.

And there is going to be an Eldin Ring Board Game https://www.dicebreaker.com/games/elden-ring-board-game/news/elden-ring-board-game-announced

Finished The Batman. While it wasn't amazing, I enjoyed it and wished the thing ran more than a season. The fact it got canceled is hardly surprising, given it was all over the place. The laser-guns were silly child stuff yet it had running continuity and other elements that might've appealed to an older audience. The visual style took a LONG time to get used to. The fact they relied on lesser-known rogues instead of the major ones probably hurt it, even though Anarky worked in a Joker-esque role (and Humpty Dumpty had a bit of a Riddler vibe with some of his stuff).

Started watching Super Crooks -- a NF-original anime about supervillains -- which, between the slow pacing and the crap dialogue, hasn't lived up to the initial promise, but who knows, I'm still kinda interested.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Regardless of whether you like the Bucks/Kenny or hate them, or assume they're entirely blameless or totally guilty of tons of things, it really doesn't change the fact that in this case Punk is ridiculously worse than them in every possible way that matters, and is pretty much the least professional person in the whole mess in spite of whining about how unprofessional other people are. I'm not saying they're entirely blameless (because that's murky as hell he said/she said bullshit). I'm saying Punk absolutely is.

lolwut? Coming out and addressing accusations orchestrated by other people is worse than spreading those lies in the first place, initiating a conflict by going into business for yourself on live tv, etc?

The Elite and their camp are poison in the locker room. They're basically a talentless, charisma-less version of the Kliq. CM Punk shouldn't have to publicly air 100%-correct grievances, that's on TK for not firing the Three Stooges and getting the usable portion of their camp in line.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And like I said, it's not just Kenny/the Bucks/Hangman/etc or people directly attached to them who are pointing out how much of a shit Punk can be/has been. Plenty of other people have been firing shots into that particular melee, and almost none of them are on Punk's side at all.

The problem with getting your narrative from Meltzer is that it's flat-out wrong. While you're not going to get as many people speaking out on the AEW side ****BECAUSE YOU LITERALLY HAVE ASSHOLES IN A POSITION OF POWER TO BURY ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM**** (which is why even FTR who put Meltzer in his place didn't dare to go out too far on a branch when criticizing the Bucks' nonsense), CM Punk has had a lot of support. However, when you have propaganda machines like Meltzer reprinting whatever the Stooges tell him, a bullshit narrative is created... and it's the same bullshit we've seen time and time again because this isn't the first time the Stooges have run a smear campaign, it won't be the last, and the same people buy into it will buy into it again.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And to be brutally honest, even if the Elite were all sneaking manipulative politicking backstabbing villains (which almost no one other than Punk and maybe Cornette are saying is the case), the blame still wouldn't be on them as much as it is on Tony Khan.

It's almost like trying to run a wrestling business when you have no experience within the industry is a bad idea or something. >_> Yeah, TK *should've* put a Jim Ross or other veteran in charge of that shit he tried to do himself.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

At this point it seems like the only people on Punk's side are a couple of the really young wrestlers who he's offered advice to (like Jade), FTR (who seem to be friends with him just out of their shared love of Bret Hart), and Ace Steel (who is deep in his own bucket of shit right now for throwing chairs and biting people).

...or maybe it has more to do with Punk getting FTR unburied. Is it any surprise that shortly after Punk joined the company and worked with FTR, FTR started to get used better? And why the Bucks -- who'd been burying FTR -- started to attack Punk so hard?

And early reports mentioned Punk had helped and mentored a lot of people. You know, reports from BEFORE the Stooges started their smear campaign.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

As Booker T once said about Punk years ago, if you have to go around telling people you're the locker room leader, you're not the locker room leader. And that seems to be one of the things that's put a cactus up his ass so badly - he feels like everyone should respect him and lick his taint the way Tony Khan does, but plenty of people in the back simply don't respect him all that much.

Would that be the same Booker T whose wild claims very rarely match what everybody else -- mostly third-parties -- say? Because Booker was involved in his own share of locker room fights, and said things that the guys breaking it up disputed.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

This isn't actually true, so you're pretty much full of shit.

?

you can literally go into your Privacy settings and change who can tag me to Nobody

so who exactly is full of shit?