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Post 49 has a DeSantis 2024 sig

Lmfao

wackyteen posted...

Post 49 has a DeSantis 2024 sig

Lmfao

Yup, let me guess - you assume DeSantis is a Nazi? If so, please explain why.

Gamerguymass posted...

The Nazis were very possibly the worst group of human beings that ever existed in all of human history.

Yet here you are trying to protect their legacy.

Gamerguymass posted...

People need to seriously stop comparing everyone and everything to Nazis. The right used to do that back in the 80s and 90s calling the left Nazis and now the left is just repeating the same damn thing.

https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1141125878874877953?s=20

Gamerguymass posted...

The Nazis were very possibly the worst group of human beings that ever existed in all of human history.

Eehhhhhhh.... It's not a competition but if you go back farther than 1930 I think you'd be surprised just how horrible we've been to each other. Hitler had the unfortunate circumstances of having the atrocities committed captured on photo & video. Ghengis Khan, OTOH massacred 11% of the world's population (at the time)

But like I said it's not really a competition. I just would wouldn't go around saying shit like Hitler is some kind of unapproachable evil that can never be matched by anyone past present or future.

Gamerguymass posted...

Tuskegee Experiment look ethical

You need to never say this combination of words ever again.

_____Cait posted...

Lol why him? You think he is Christian? Or some great economic genius? Cause umm

Well, youll figure it out.

Why do I support DeSantis?

In a nutshell, becuase he has been the most effective manager of the most successful state in the nation on a variety of economic metrics using Conservative economic solutions.

He is articulate and, unlike Trump, isn't an idiot. Trump is an idiot and I hope he doesn't get our nomination again but I unfortunately assume that is likely.

DeSantis also has done well in calling out lunacy on other issues, but going into specifics on this board would almost certainly get me suspended again, so I'll leave it at that.

What's their asses look like?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Eehhhhhhh.... It's not a competition but if you go back farther than 1930 I think you'd be surprised just how horrible we've been to each other. Hitler had the unfortunate circumstances of having the atrocities committed captured on photo & video. Ghengis Khan, OTOH massacred 11% of the world's population (at the time)

But like I said it's not really a competition. I just would wouldn't go around saying s*** like Hitler is some kind of unapproachable evil that can never be matched by anyone past present or future.

Even if we can find other "unapproachable evils" in history, I think Hitler is a recent enough and easily understandable example of said evil, that he should be the example we point to stop people from going beyond that.

It's a bit of a cop-out maybe and comparing everyone and everything to Hitler and Nazis devalues the weight they should carry but that's the age of discourse we live in

RamboCell29 posted...

Why do I support DeSantis?

In a nutshell, becuase he has been the most effective manager of the most successful state in the nation on a variety of economic metrics using Conservative economic solutions.

He is articulate and, unlike Trump, isn't an idiot. Trump is an idiot and I hope he doesn't get our nomination again but I unfortunately assume that is likely.

DeSantis also has done well in calling out lunacy on other issues, but going into specifics on this board would almost certainly get me suspended again, so I'll leave it at that.

Weird how you just throw out some random claims instead of substantiated metrics.

RamboCell29 posted...

Why do I support DeSantis?

In a nutshell, becuase he has been the most effective manager of the most successful state in the nation on a variety of economic metrics using Conservative economic solutions.

He is articulate and, unlike Trump, isn't an idiot. Trump is an idiot and I hope he doesn't get our nomination again but I unfortunately assume that is likely.

DeSantis also has done well in calling out lunacy on other issues, but going into specifics on this board would almost certainly get me suspended again, so I'll leave it at that.

Come on, tell us the real reason you like DeSatan, don't be shy. Grow a pair and be straight up about why you really like him.

Eh...if they where part of something and willing to testify against the others in court there is some value in keeping them alive.

Poll options 6, 7, and 8 are all completely correct choices.

wackyteen posted...

Even if we can find other "unapproachable evils" in history, I think Hitler is a recent enough and easily understandable example of said evil, that he should be the example we point to stop people from going beyond that.

It's a bit of a cop-out maybe and comparing everyone and everything to Hitler and Nazis devalues the weight they should carry but that's the age of discourse we live in

The distinction I was trying to make here is that it's very possible, and plausible even, for someone to be as bad as Hitler. Especially when you look at exactly what Hitler did and how he did it, comparisons of Hitler to Trump start becoming a lot more accurate.

The go to rebuttal is usually "Trump didn't kill 6+ million people so he can't be as bad" but neither did Hitler technically. 6+ million people were murdered because Hitler found enough Nazis and SS fanatics willing to kill 6+ million on his behalf which is the crucial component of the Nazis that Trump lacked.

So when people say Trump didn't kill 6+ million people, it has more to do with our politicians and armed forces not being willing to do it, rather than Trump's alleged morality over Hitler.

And people were killed / subjected to medical procedures they didn't consent to while in ICE custody including forced hysterectomies & sterilization. Homeland security was literally kidnapping Floyd protestors off the street in unmarked vans. Just that the people who perpetrated these crimes were mercifully only a small number of them. And not enough to build up the momentum Hitler had that led to the Holocaust.

DeSantis is a evil piece of shit. He's trying to drive trans and gay kids into suicide

Zikten posted...

DeSantis is a evil piece of shit. He's trying to drive trans and gay kids into suicide

It's one of the reason why rambocell likes him.

Tyranthraxus posted...

The distinction I was trying to make here is that it's very possible, and plausible even, for someone to be as bad as Hitler. Especially when you look at exactly what Hitler did and how he did it, comparisons of Hitler to Trump start becoming a lot more accurate.

The go to rebuttal is usually "Trump didn't kill 6+ million people so he can't be as bad" but neither did Hitler technically. 6+ million people were murdered because Hitler found enough Nazis and SS fanatics willing to kill 6+ million on his behalf which is the crucial component of the Nazis that Trump lacked.

So when people say Trump didn't kill 6+ million people, it has more to do with our politicians and armed forces not being willing to do it, rather than Trump's alleged morality over Hitler.

And people were killed / subjected to medical procedures they didn't consent to while in ICE custody including forced hysterectomies & sterilization. Homeland security was literally kidnapping Floyd protestors off the street in unmarked vans. Just that the people who perpetrated these crimes were mercifully only a small number of them. And not enough to build up the momentum Hitler had that led to the Holocaust.

Guess it's kinda like comparing pitbulls to chiuhahs then. People don't typically consider chihuahuas as bad or evil like a pit despite its more likely to wanna bite you. It's just less capable of doing much damage.

ex nazis are dece

Unknown480 posted...

It's one of the reason why rambocell likes him.

Well he's right, expressing that would get him modded.

A good nazi wouldnt be a nazi

RamboCell29 posted...

Yup, let me guess - you assume DeSantis is a Nazi? If so, please explain why.

Because he, like Greg Abbott, rants on and on about how minorities are a threat to social stability and encourages the citizenry to fight back and report any minority funny business. It's exactly what the Gestapo did with denunciations.

This is where you babble something about how the liberals tried to destroy anyone who disagreed with COVID rules.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Bottom three options, not including "other". Nazis, their collaborators, their simps and their deniers should be treated with maximum hostility on all fromts, and denied general kindnesses until they change their beliefs and behaviors.

"Collaborators" and "simps" implies conservatives, btw. There's no functional difference between a bunch of Nazis and DeSantis; none of them should be anywhere near authority or success.

Gamerguymass posted...

Comparing a bunch of morons in khakis marching with tiki torches to them is beyond fucking absurd and outright offensive.

Not when those people created a CPAC competitor that got multiple former and current government officials to attend. Sorry dude but the whole point is that people who emulate Nazi ideology aren't going to be comparable to Nazis in terms of feats of cruelty until they, you know, attain power. So maybe we should call people attempting to attain power who associate with people who deny the holocaust, uh, Nazis.

The irony of your post here is that attendees of the Unite the Right rally are on camera numerous times saying "We're not Nazis those guys are dead" while they carry around nazi symbols and rant about the Jews. You're basically repeating their wrap for no discernable reason since you don't seem to grasp or understand that, no, they are not accomplished, because

A: We've made it unacceptable to hold their views as a collective society

B: Because they are attempting to gain political power rather than currently holding it

You might have some iota of a point here if, I dunno, their attempts were failing. But AFPAC exists and it has GOP allies, so Nazi-sourced ideologies literally do hold influence in U.S. Congress at a minimum. This isn't even getting into people the Trump White House had in its employ.

I'm not even calling Republicans as a unit this. I'm just saying that yes, MTG and Paul Gosar are effectively authoritarian fascists. If they weren't, they probably wouldn't be speaking at a conference run by a guy who thinks black people are inherently inferior based on junk IQ science and denies the holocaust and otherwise is a proud self-proclaimed incel. He has influence over elected officials. This is in where we are. The left did not have any appropriate parallels to this in congress during the 1980s or 1990s.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

Not when those people created a CPAC competitor that got multiple former and current government officials to attend. Sorry dude but the whole point is that people who emulate Nazi ideology aren't going to be comparable to Nazis in terms of feats of cruelty until they, you know, attain power. So maybe we should call people attempting to attain power who associate with people who deny the holocaust, uh, Nazis.

The irony of your post here is that attendees of the Unite the Right rally are on camera numerous times saying "We're not Nazis those guys are dead" while they carry around nazi symbols and rant about the Jews. You're basically repeating their wrap for no discernable reason since you don't seem to grasp or understand that, no, they are not accomplished, because

A: We've made it unacceptable to hold their views as a collective society

B: Because they are attempting to gain political power rather than currently holding it

You might have some iota of a point here if, I dunno, their attempts were failing. But AFPAC exists and it has GOP allies, so Nazi-sourced ideologies literally do hold influence in U.S. Congress at a minimum. This isn't even getting into people the Trump White House had in its employ.

Exactly. "Get back to me when they take over the government and kill 10 million people" would be kind of too fucking late.

RamboCell29 posted...

Why do I support DeSantis?

In a nutshell, becuase he has been the most effective manager of the most successful state in the nation on a variety of economic metrics using Conservative economic solutions.

He is articulate and, unlike Trump, isn't an idiot. Trump is an idiot and I hope he doesn't get our nomination again but I unfortunately assume that is likely.

DeSantis also has done well in calling out lunacy on other issues, but going into specifics on this board would almost certainly get me suspended again, so I'll leave it at that.

sounds like they are pretty shit specifics if mentioning them will get you suspended.

Zeeak4444 posted...

sounds like they are pretty shit specifics if mentioning them will get you suspended.

Dude cares more about "muh economy" than the rights of women and LGBTQ people.

The only good Nazi is deez nutzi

Wait, no, that's bad too.

Anyone who says Nazis don't exist anymore has a very America-centric view of the world

https://m.dw.com/en/germany-neo-nazi-march-blocked-by-opponents/a-62499602

NSP members shouted such slogans as "Nazi city Mainz" and "Revolution now" before being prevented from moving forward, police said.

No and no. When people chose to be horrible, they don't deserve to be treated any better. They've killed, so they should be killed. Wishing for their deaths should be the least concerning thing.

teep_ posted...

Anyone who says Nazis don't exist anymore has a very America-centric view of the world

Which, ironically, makes them more susceptible to neo-Nazism.

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They're rough and coarse, and they get everywhere!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/0/AACpnzAADoSG.jpg

It's a topic with more nuance than "every single German soldier was a pure evil bastard worthy of death," but the general sentiment that they were and are a group representing an evil ideology stands true.

Mods are suspiciously absent from this topic

Nemu posted...

It's a topic with more nuance than "every single German soldier was a pure evil bastard worthy of death," but the general sentiment that they were and are a group representing an evil ideology stands true.

If not death, life in prison is another fair option. Though would rather not spend the money to keep a Nazi alive

I don't believe in wishing ill on others, but Nazis and their equivalents need to die in a fire. They have no place in any society and are a danger to everything good in this world.

As per usual, people playing defense with the usual bullshit.

"Nazis don't exist anymore!"

Yes they do. They don't have to be the Nazis from Nazi Germany to be Nazis. Neo Nazis are Nazis, and they deserve the same treatment our grandparents gave the ones in Germany.

"Oh so everyone you disagree with is a Nazi?"

No, we're talking about Nazis. People who have Nazi beliefs. People who wave the Nazi flag. We're not talking about a strawman or some random idiot misusing words.

"The word Nazi has lost all meaning!"

Then why so quick to defend them? Everytime someone brings up this 'argument', it's to deflect away from someone who either is part of a hate group, supports them, or at least seems awfully comfortable with them being around.

The simple fact is that Nazis deserve to die.

Umbreon posted...

As per usual, people playing defense with the usual bullshit.

"Nazis don't exist anymore!"

Yes they do. They don't have to be the Nazis from Nazi Germany to be Nazis. Neo Nazis are Nazis, and they deserve the same treatment our grandparents gave the ones in Germany.

"Oh so everyone you disagree with is a Nazi?"

No, we're talking about Nazis. People who have Nazi beliefs. People who wave the Nazi flag. We're not talking about a strawman or some random idiot misusing words.

"The word Nazi has lost all meaning!"

Then why so quick to defend them? Everytime someone brings up this 'argument', it's to deflect away from someone who either is part of a hate group, supports them, or at least seems awfully comfortable with them being around.

The simple fact is that Nazis deserve to die.

Like imagine your grandfather dying fighting Nazis only for you to grow up and become one. The Americans that defend them and have become them just... I have no fucking words.

DeSantis rose to prominence on Bathroom bills and basically started taxing people for not being socially heteronormative and complacent with manosphere shit.

Umbreon posted...

"The word Nazi has lost all meaning!"

Which is funny because Republicans love to misuse words until they lose their meaning. Basically Left Wing Radical used to mean Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army, who actually bombed buildings and shot people for Political demonstration. Now they use that word or similar language against people who want more workers rights and a universal wage and to teach people about systemic racism.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Like imagine your grandfather dying fighting Nazis only for you to grow up and become one. The Americans that defend them and have become them just... I have no fucking words.

I fear for the day the last Holocaust survivor dies, cause that's when Nazi and those sympathetic towards them will go all in on whitewashing history.

When no one is around to directly contradict them.

wanderingshade posted...

DeSantis rose to prominence on Bathroom bills and basically started taxing people for not being socially heteronormative and complacent with manosphere shit.

Which is funny because Republicans love to misuse words until they lose their meaning. Basically Left Wing Radical used to mean Weather Underground and Black Liberation Army, who actually bombed buildings and shot people for Political demonstration. Now they use that word or similar language against people who want more workers rights and a universal wage and to teach people about systemic racism.

They also use it to mean establishment Democrats who haven't moved an inch in 30 years. Brain worms are a hell of a thing

Umbreon posted...

No, we're talking about Nazis. People who have Nazi beliefs. People who wave the Nazi flag. We're not talking about a strawman or some random idiot misusing words.

And apparently they're even waltzing around America freely now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/4/AAPw6aAADogi.jpg

They exist. They're getting more bold. The longer we let this cancer mutate and spread, the harder our excision of it from good society will be.

ProfessorKukui posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/6/AAc8AqAADoNC.jpg

thanks Im saving this one

I'll be honest, can't be arsed to read whole thread.

Had anyone quoted, "Who gives a fuck? they're Nazis," yet?

Because that largely sums up my position.

Do please @ me if you require more nuance.