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Even If The Transphobia Doesn't Bother You, Please Don't Buy (or Even play) The New Hogwarts Game

Stole the following from FB, and it's a pretty good commentary on why you shouldn't buy, or even play the upcoming JKR Hogwarts game

So let me get this straight. There's a new, very polished video game set in the Wizarding World of committed transphobe JK Rowling. The plot of the game is that there is a rebellion of goblins who are fighting against racial discrimination and prejudice by the Ministry of Magic and the wizarding community as a whole. From the Harry Potter Compendium - "The Goblin Rebellions were a series of rebellions in which the goblin population of the Wizarding world revolted against discrimination and prejudice toward their kind by wizards and witches. They were most prevalent during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, but even in modern times there are subversive goblin groups working in secret against the Ministry of Magic, according to the Daily Prophet. The historical rebellions have been described as "bloody and vicious." ...These rebellions may have occurred because of lack of goblin representation [in magical Parliament], attempts to enslave goblins as house-elves, stripping of wand privileges, wizard attempts to control Gringotts, or the brutal goblin slayings by Yardley Platt."

And you, the hero, are a wizard whose ultimate task it is to quash the rebellion and put these goblins back in their rightful place under the rule of the wizards.

The goblins of the HP series have long been criticized as offensive Jewish stereotypes, with critics pointing out their control of the magical banking system, their greed, and their exaggerated facial features. And the game is set in 1890, around the time the antisemitic hoax "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was being developed (published 1903 amidst a new wave of antisemitism in Europe). Part of the official gameplay reveal shows the two villains, Ranrok the goblin (pictured) and Victor Rookwood the dark wizard, discussing what appears to be a child abduction scheme. From a fandom site: "Ranrok was a very greedy individual who sought to claim a magical power he caught a glimpse of that wizardkind hid even from themselves. His worldview was skewed by his hatred for all wizards and witches, who he sought to destroy entirely."

The lead designer for Avalanche Games, Troy Leavitt, has been a harsh critic of social justice movements, was a proponent of Gamergate, called the MeToo movement a "moral panic," and claimed that society gives deferential treatment to LGBTQ+, POC, women, and disabled people. And Warner Brothers knew this before they hired him to make this game. This game where the player fights against greedy, child-abducting Jewish stereotypes. The game where the player suppresses an uprising of an oppressed race who are pushing back against their own disenfranchisement, disarmament, slavery, and murder, in order to maintain the supremacy of the dominant culture.

Um...

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS NONSENSE?

Listen, friends. I know a lot of you still love the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. You've got a lot of emotional baggage tied up in whether you're a member of House Braggadocio, House GiftedChild, House SamwiseGamgee, or House EugenicsAreGoodActually. But I beg you, please, don't buy this game. Walk away from both Rowling and the Wizarding World. Don't give Warner Brothers any more money."

Thoughts?

tl;dr

This will sell so well.

What if it's really good though

Dragon56 posted...

And you, the hero, are a wizard whose ultimate task it is to quash the rebellion and put these goblins back in their rightful place under the rule of the wizards.

We know very little about the narrative and how the storyline is going to unfold, so this seems a little premature.

Dragon56 posted...

Troy Leavitt

Didn't this dude leave the project like 2 years ago

r/WitchesVsPatriarchy is a woman-centered sub with a witchy twist, aimed at healing, supporting, and uplifting one another through humor and magic.
The goal is to at once embrace, and poke fun at, the mystical aspects of femininity that have been previously demonized and/or devalued by the Patriarchy.

Can I shit my pants in this game?

But are there sexy goblins?

NeonOctopus posted...

Can I shit my pants in this game?

When you do moaning Myrtle giggles

Dragon56 posted...

And you, the hero, are a wizard whose ultimate task it is to quash the rebellion and put these goblins back in their rightful place under the rule of the wizards.

sounds based

I'm going to guess the person who wrote that review only watched the movies, since the goblin "uprising" was a prominent part of at least two books and a fairly major character motivation for Hermione that was stripped from the movies to streamline things. It was also ended through dialogue and a recognition that the goblins were being treated poorly, leading to improved working conditions and more rights for the goblins.

I can't take that subreddit seriously. Do they really believe that they're "witches" and that magic is real, or is it more symbolic and metaphorical?

The devs have already been paid and whether or not the game sells is irrelevant since great sales only would benefit the executives and CEO. This is a pretty basic litmus test.

Based on what Ive read about the story - the antagonist Ranrok hates all wizard and witches and teams up with the Dark Wizards to take over Hogwarts and claim a power that he wants so he can rule over the world.

He starts the rebellion for his personal interests.

seems there is a lot more to the story than just the goblins decide to rebel for freedom, more like they are being used as pawns to fight a battle for one Goblins selfish gain.

Did HP goblins inherit anti-semitic traits historically assigned to goblins, it seems so unfortunately. Was that a deliberate attempt at anti-semitism by the author, I kinda doubt it. Does Hogwarts Legacy promote or further anti-semitism, I really doubt it.

Am I gonna pay for Hogwarts Legacy? When was the last time I paid for a game? Lol

I'm sure the dialogue in this is gonna be so good lol

s0nicfan posted...

I'm going to guess the person who wrote that review only watched the movies, since the goblin "uprising" was a prominent part of at least two books and a fairly major character motivation for Hermione that was stripped from the movies to streamline things. It was also ended through dialogue and a recognition that the goblins were being treated poorly, leading to improved working conditions and more rights for the goblins.

That's house elves.

Lol. Lots of peeps have been waiting for this sort of game for a long time. People are capable of enjoying magic and wizards and shit without partaking in racism or transphobia.

I won't because it looks like dog shit

Telling other people how to spend their money is such a poor person flex

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

That's house elves.

Wasn't it all magical creatures, including house elves? IIRC the elves were the main driver but I remember it involving all hogwarts magical staff, including the cooks, cleaners, etc, and Hermione basically unionizing them all because humans weren't giving them a fair deal.

Doom_Art posted...

We know very little about the narrative and how the storyline is going to unfold, so this seems a little premature.

It's also incredibly obvious what the "twist" will be now.

s0nicfan posted...

Wasn't it all magical creatures, including house elves? IIRC the elves were the main driver but I remember it involving all hogwarts magical staff, including the cooks, cleaners, etc, and Hermione basically unionizing them all because humans weren't giving them a fair deal.

Maybe it included some others, I don't remember.

CRON posted...

I can't take that subreddit seriously. Do they really believe that they're "witches" and that magic is real, or is it more symbolic and metaphorical?

It's a reference to the fact that women witb any power, especially low-born ones getting any education, through history had a high chance of being killed as witches.

Mind you, I only assume that from the name. They could, for whatever reason, be ignoring the "smack to the face obvious" reference as well.

ellis123 posted...

It's a reference to the fact that women witb any power, especially low-born ones getting any education, through history had a high chance of being killed as witches.

Mind you, I only assume that from the name. They could, for whatever reason, be ignoring the "smack to the face obvious" reference as well.

the only smack to the face is the amount of patchouli you can smell comin off that subreddit

chrono625 posted...

Based on what Ive read about the story - the antagonist Ranrok hates all wizard and witches and teams up with the Dark Wizards to take over Hogwarts and claim a power that he wants so he can rule over the world.

He starts the rebellion for his personal interests.

seems there is a lot more to the story than just the goblins decide to rebel for freedom, more like they are being used as pawns to fight a battle for one Goblins selfish gain.

There's no such thing as nuance in games apparently.

SuperShake66652 posted...

r/WitchesVsPatriarchy is a woman-centered sub with a witchy twist, aimed at healing, supporting, and uplifting one another through humor and magic.
The goal is to at once embrace, and poke fun at, the mystical aspects of femininity that have been previously demonized and/or devalued by the Patriarchy.

Cringe

I downvote everything on that subreddit, even when I agree with what they're saying because "witches versus patriarchy" is just so cringe.

I've also never consumed anything Harry Potter in my life.

If I refuse to purchase this game, will it bankrupt J.K. Rowling?

Guys, people who call themselves witches don't think they can throw fireballs or summon imps

It's just a religion.

s0nicfan posted...

Wasn't it all magical creatures, including house elves? IIRC the elves were the main driver but I remember it involving all hogwarts magical staff, including the cooks, cleaners, etc, and Hermione basically unionizing them all because humans weren't giving them a fair deal.

Those were all house elves.

There is a general trend in HP where all non-human races are generally treated like inferior beings, but house elves are the only ones who are literally enslaved.

FortuneCookie posted...

If I refuse to purchase this game, will it bankrupt J.K. Rowling?

Nothing can be done now about her being poor. The Potter verse is so lucrative her family tree is set for life until it becomes public domain.

Fuck off with the boycotts.

It won't hurt Rowling, only the developers. And the game looks great.

I'm going to buy it

The whining makes me want to buy it.

AloneIBreak posted...

I downvote everything on that subreddit, even when I agree with what they're saying because "witches versus patriarchy" is just so cringe.

I've also never consumed anything Harry Potter in my life.

Because hanging out on a subreddit about a book series you've never read that you hate just to downvote things is perfectly normal behavior.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hogwarts-legacys-system-specs-seem-pretty-reasonable-for-whats-on-offer/

Meanwhile the most likely reason why people here are not likely to buy this game is cause the system requirements are relatively steep. 1070 for minimum is pretty high. Though for a 2023 AAA game, it may not be too unreasonable for a 6 year old upper mid tier GPU to be the minimum requirement.

So if this game does well, how loud will the REEEEEing be?

Zikten posted...

Guys, people who call themselves witches don't think they can throw fireballs or summon imps

It's just a religion.

not for all of em
i dated this hippie goth chick when i got out of college and she drug me to a lot of essential oil, crystals, and general metaphysical shops

lotta whackos in that community act like they just stepped off the set of charmed or the fuckin craft or somethin. no its not wands and fireballs like harry potter, its hexes and curses and rituals and seances. tarot cards and horoscopes. its "i gotta burn some sage in my apartment to ward off evil spirits", and burning personal shit like photos and hair ritualistically to put a curse on that bitch debra. lots of candles. lots of bonfires. lotta fire. just no fireballs

tho i did have one of em tell me about how she reflected a fireball when a psychic vampire came to her booth at the flea market and started trying to invade her mind. fortunately she was able to reflect that fireball right back at him, unfortunately this battle took place exclusively in the spirit realm so there werent any witnesses

I won't buy it

I'd like an answer to the "will there be sexy goblins" question

Damn_Underscore posted...

tl;dr

This. Whatever it is Im buying the game because the world of HP is great and the game looks fun.

Ivynn posted...

I'd like an answer to the "will there be sexy goblins" question

how would one define sexy?

I don't follow Harry Potter but there's some weird fucking leaps of logic in this.

"Magical Banking System" - So there's no problems with magic EVERYWHERE else in the world of HP but magic banking? Nope, that's stereotypes.

"It's set around the time of the Protocols of Zion." Well, it's set 13 years before the book was published. Should we ignore every game ever made that's set in this general time period? What's the number of years before and after 1903 that is acceptable to make a game set in?

I'm not saying not to buy it, that's your personal call. And yes, the author and the lead designer seem to have issues with trans people. I'm not disputing that.

But it seems whoever wrote this topic on Reddit is reaching I think. Especially when the game is still 6 or so months from release.

Don't tell me what to do, you're not my mother

Pre-ordered

Prestoff posted...

how would one define sexy?

Imagine the game have goblins like this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/0/AAZaD9AADnay.jpg

Prestoff posted...

how would one define sexy?

A goblin that one wants to fuck.

Mibahlzitch posted...

Because hanging out on a subreddit about a book series you've never read that you hate just to downvote things is perfectly normal behavior.

It shows up on r/all, smarty pants.