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gna647
08/16/22 10:02:37 AM
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I see 0 reason to own a console.

maybe a Nintendo switch but whats the point of console gaming now?

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MrKapowski
08/16/22 10:30:13 AM
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Not everyone has a PC

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littlebro07
08/16/22 10:31:40 AM
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MrKapowski posted...
Not everyone has a PC

But you can get a decent one that plays everything for like 1-1.5k

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Turbam
08/16/22 10:31:56 AM
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Playing console cozied up in bed > playing PC hunched over my keyboard while I install big booty mods

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MrKapowski
08/16/22 10:32:18 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
But you can get a decent one that plays everything for like 1-1.5k

Yes, I could.

Do I want to?

No.

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ZevLoveDOOM
08/16/22 10:33:41 AM
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some people prefer the comfort of sitting on the couch in front of a TV, grab a controller and game as much as they want.
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Flockaveli
08/16/22 10:34:47 AM
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What are posts 2 3 and 5.
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MabusIncarnate
08/16/22 10:34:55 AM
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A lot of people prefer having a system that will run games fine for many years without having to upgrade and tinker with parts to keep up. Also a lot of people have been console gaming online with friends for a while and wanna stick with what their buds are gaming on.

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wackyteen
08/16/22 10:35:08 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
But you can get a decent one that plays everything for like 1-1.5k

Implying everyone has that kind of money lmao

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Mad-Dogg
08/16/22 10:59:11 AM
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MrKapowski posted...
Yes, I could.

Do I want to?

No.
This. I don't care for tinkering and is pretty eh on mods in general so the console experience suits me fine.

That, and I hate waiting or needing to wonder "will or won't they" when it comes to games being ported over. (Which is what you need to do with sony. Unlike microsoft, sony is not yet committed to the "all games without fail being released on the PC also day 1" thing. With their market share they can actually afford to be choosy with what they port over). I am not going to wait a goddamn decade to play lets say kingdom hearts games when in all those years I could have just got whatever platform/portable they were on and played/enjoyed those games then. I feel that way about other console exclusives on the xbox or nintendo systems or if a indie is on the PC only....not going to wait a year or so to play something like astral chain (IF astral chain ever got ported....which it most likely isn't) or persona 5....rather just get the damn whatever I need to get and play it already, lol. Hell by the time some of these console exclusives get ported over I am already enjoying the next one that came up, so its a never-ending cycle of waiting/hoping/porting/playing.

I am happy for those that is enjoying spider-man on the PC finally, but getting something like this after like 2 years or so isn't exactly convincing me that consoles is worthless or whatever. *Ah, actually 4, spider-man released on the PS4 in 2018, =/*

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MarthGoomba
08/16/22 11:11:27 AM
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wackyteen posted...
Implying everyone has that kind of money lmao
If someone can't afford a PC how are they affording more expensive consoles?

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wackyteen
08/16/22 11:14:48 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
If someone can't afford a PC how are they affording more expensive consoles?
$300 for a SeS is an easier financial decision than $1500 for a PC if all you're looking for, is to play games


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Trumpo
08/16/22 11:16:46 AM
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Console gamers spend more on tv's and subs than pc players would upgrading their hardware every now and then.

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NoxObscuras
08/16/22 11:17:03 AM
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Eh, it's not quite at that point for me yet. I love being able to play Xbox exclusives on PC day 1, but Sony still takes years to bring over their exclusives, so my PS5 still gets used.

Turbam posted...
Playing console cozied up in bed > playing PC hunched over my keyboard while I install big booty mods

ZevLoveDOOM posted...
some people prefer the comfort of sitting on the couch in front of a TV, grab a controller and game as much as they want.
PC gaming with a controller is a thing you know lol

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MarthGoomba
08/16/22 11:20:59 AM
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wackyteen posted...
$300 for a SeS is an easier financial decision than $1500 for a PC if all you're looking for, is to play games
A $500 PC beats a SeS, let's you play online without a subscription fee that makes a SeS significantly more expensive over time, and allows you to do more than what a console offers

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CADE_FOSTER
08/16/22 11:57:54 AM
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these pc people are dumb just spend 1k to 1500 or just spend 500 and get game pass or ps+
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Shadowplay
08/16/22 11:59:34 AM
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Turbam posted...
Playing console cozied up in bed > playing PC hunched over my keyboard while I install big booty mods

ZevLoveDOOM posted...
some people prefer the comfort of sitting on the couch in front of a TV, grab a controller and game as much as they want.
Blows my mind that people still use these arguments that have not been true for over a decade.

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MarthGoomba
08/16/22 12:01:11 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
these pc people are dumb just spend 1k to 1500 or just spend 500 and get game pass or ps+
Game Pass and PS+ will end up costing you more than $1500

A proper gaming PC only costs $900

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Xatrion
08/16/22 12:09:27 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Blows my mind that people still use these arguments that have not been true for over a decade.

The worst opinions on pc gaming come from those who haven't gamed on a pc. That's generally why you see consolites regurgitating the same tired, uninformed, ignorant arguments over and over again.

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supermichael11
08/16/22 12:12:51 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
some people prefer the comfort of sitting on the couch in front of a TV, grab a controller and game as much as they want.

People can do that with PC, playing on the couch with their controller. They can hook their PC to a TV and monitor.
A person has the option to use keyboard + mouse + controller.
I always use controller when playing my games on PC.

Turbam posted...
Playing console cozied up in bed > playing PC hunched over my keyboard while I install big booty mods
You can do that with a PC also playing in bed.

MabusIncarnate posted...
A lot of people prefer having a system that will run games fine for many years without having to upgrade and tinker with parts to keep up. Also a lot of people have been console gaming online with friends for a while and wanna stick with what their buds are gaming on.

I have the Nvidia GeForce 1080Ti and I can still run modern games without any problem. People don't need to constantly upgrade to play the latest games. Console has things like PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, doesn't mean they need to upgrade.

Although to play online people have to pay subscription on console, while those same games cost $0 on PC. Monster Hunter World and Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 on PC we can play, while on console like Xbox and Playstation requires $60 per year.

If a person wants to play online on console for the whole generation, it would be $60 * 7 years = $420 to play online.

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Will_VIIII
08/16/22 12:13:53 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
some people prefer the comfort of sitting on the couch in front of a TV, grab a controller and game as much as they want.
That's how I play PC games too

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MabusIncarnate
08/16/22 12:14:07 PM
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Xatrion posted...
The worst opinions on pc gaming come from those who haven't gamed on a pc. That's generally why you see consolites regurgitating the same tired, uninformed, ignorant arguments over and over again.
In the 500th PC elitist "This is why consoles are irrelevant" topic, yeah yeah.

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Ratchetrockon
08/16/22 12:15:07 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
A proper gaming PC only costs $900

Can you provide an example
Just wanna see whats possible now.

I had a pc with xx70 Nvidia gpu and the best cpu for gaming (at the time) for $1200. But idk if possible now at that price

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Will_VIIII
08/16/22 12:18:46 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
In the 500th PC elitist "This is why consoles are irrelevant" topic, yeah yeah.
I mean they're kinda getting there. I have buyers remorse for my PS4 and my Series S is almost never used (though I bought it in mind as a supplemental console given it's backwards compatibility and old console exclusive titles being made still available)

That said I've played my switch and PC equally the last couple years.

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MarthGoomba
08/16/22 12:25:07 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...


Can you provide an example
Just wanna see whats possible now.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QM6pDq

Only $863 to beat consoles

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Ratchetrockon
08/16/22 12:29:51 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QM6pDq

Only $863 to beat consoles

Not worth it compared to series x. 4060 should be worth it tho in few months

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Will_VIIII
08/16/22 12:34:19 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
Not worth it compared to series x. 4060 should be worth it tho in few months
With either the Series S/X or PS5 you'll pretty much need to upgrade the storage so I'd factor those costs in

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Ratchetrockon
08/16/22 12:34:55 PM
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Will_VIIII posted...
With either the Series S/X or PS5 you'll pretty much need to upgrade the storage so I'd factor those costs in

same with pc too. im using up a lil over 3tb right now

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Will_VIIII
08/16/22 12:37:05 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
same with pc too. im using up a lil over 3tb right now
True but it's a lot cheaper to do so on PC and there are a lot more options.

IMO it was a mistake for both to push nvme drives this gen.

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BlockAddition
08/16/22 12:40:00 PM
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There's been no reason to own a ms/sony console since the ps3/360 days

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--Zero-
08/16/22 12:45:10 PM
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$1500 PC is a good investment since itll last you 10 years well past the current console generation.

Its possible to hook a PC up to a TV and wirelessly play games from their couch with either a keyboard/mouse or a controller.

On a PC youve got movies, shows, games from all gens, music, browsing, and more.

Theres a lot of positives to owning a PC and its very practical to own one over a console.

The only downside is you need to learn how to build one or deal with an issue like if a part fails and needs to be replaced.

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wackyteen
08/16/22 1:01:22 PM
#32:


MarthGoomba posted...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QM6pDq

Only $863 to beat consoles
>Mini tower

sure if you want it to overheat if you push it at all

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Ratchetrockon
08/16/22 1:01:37 PM
#33:


Will_VIIII posted...
True but it's a lot cheaper to do so on PC and there are a lot more options.

IMO it was a mistake for both to push nvme drives this gen.

true. im still using mostly sata ssds. i havent noticed difference in loading times for games yet between them and my nvme. maybe someday

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Will_VIIII
08/16/22 1:04:55 PM
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I recall a lot of analysis with gaming on an nvme ssd VS data SSD showed little difference between the 2

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MarthGoomba
08/16/22 1:13:39 PM
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wackyteen posted...
>Mini tower

sure if you want it to overheat if you push it at all
The size of a case is irrelevant, and an i5-12400 is cool enough to run on a passive cooler at full load(which it won't even be doing in games) and a 3060 can handle itself with no case fans, easily. An mATX case with stock fans isn't going to ever overheat with low/medium power consumption parts.

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MrKapowski
08/16/22 1:15:17 PM
#36:


--Zero- posted...
On a PC youve got movies, shows, games from all gens, music, browsing, and more.

Which of these do you think consoles can't do?

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DepreceV2
08/16/22 1:16:13 PM
#37:


littlebro07 posted...
But you can get a decent one that plays everything for like 1-1.5k

Do you think the majority of gamers have this kind of money laying around?

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DarkRoast
08/16/22 1:18:31 PM
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My employer: welcome to your new job, we you have $3,000 for a one-time IT upgrade for your stuff.

Me: I need this Lenovo Legion RTX 3080 laptop for work
Employer: ...
Me: It renders the EMR well

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Suolevram
08/16/22 1:19:34 PM
#39:


Flockaveli posted...
What are posts 2 3 and 5.
Nothing important. You didn't miss anything of worth.

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supermichael11
08/16/22 1:20:21 PM
#40:


MrKapowski posted...
Which of these do you think consoles can't do?

PS4/PS5 still can't play any games from PS1/PS2/PS3 gen. PSP and PS3 PSN Classic games can't be played on the PS4/PS5, such as original Spyro and Crash Bandicoot an example.

PC and PS3 games from the same generation such as Sonic Transformed, Sonic Generation, Sonic Adventure, etc, they can still be played on PC. PS4/PS5 can't do that.

Didn't they remove browser from the PS5?

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GameGodOfAll
08/16/22 1:21:16 PM
#41:


All I need is for the Sony exclusives to not take 5 years to come to PC. I don't even want to wait 1 year really. But if it were to ever get to that point, I'd just be all in I guess.

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Smashingpmkns
08/16/22 1:21:47 PM
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Why would anyone use a console to browse the internet in 2022 lol

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DarkRoast
08/16/22 1:23:31 PM
#43:


supermichael11 posted...
PS4/PS5 still can't play any games from PS1/PS2/PS3 gen. PSP and PS3 PSN Classic games can't be played on the PS4/PS5, such as original Spyro and Crash Bandicoot an example.

PC and PS3 games from the same generation such as Sonic Transformed, Sonic Generation, Sonic Adventure, etc, they can still be played on PC. PS4/PS5 can't do that.

Didn't they remove browser from the PS5?

PS5 and PS4 both have access to PS1 and PS2 games, albeit a limited number of them.


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DarkRoast
08/16/22 1:23:59 PM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
All I need is for the Sony exclusives to not take 5 years to come to PC. I don't even want to wait 1 year really. But if it were to ever get to that point, I'd just be all in I guess.

Yeah but look what happens when they do come to PC

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/2/AAeEwGAADkay.jpg

Took that one myself

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supermichael11
08/16/22 1:25:39 PM
#45:


DepreceV2 posted...
Do you think the majority of gamers have this kind of money laying around?

People that wants to play online on console, they have to pay $60 per year, while those same games on PC cost $0. This applies to games that can play with different platform users.

Plus Epic is always giving away free games each week or daily on special occasions. Steam and GOG offers free games.

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/16/22 1:25:57 PM
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Why are PC gamers so obsessed with people owning consoles? I hardly ever see console gamers giving a shit about PC games.

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MrKapowski
08/16/22 1:26:24 PM
#47:


supermichael11 posted...
PS4/PS5 still can't play any games from PS1/PS2/PS3 gen. PSP and PS3 PSN Classic games can't be played on the PS4/PS5, such as original Spyro and Crash Bandicoot an example.

PC and PS3 games from the same generation such as Sonic Transformed, Sonic Generation, Sonic Adventure, etc, they can still be played on PC. PS4/PS5 can't do that.

Didn't they remove browser from the PS5?

No idea about Sony consoles

Xbox will play pretty much any game from previous Xbox generations (minus a few licensing issues)

Also has access to Retroarch

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DarkRoast
08/16/22 1:26:57 PM
#48:


PC gaming actually is legitimately much cheaper than console gaming if you're talking about the cost of games over time.

I buy most my Steam games on CDKeys (the only actually legit key reseller) and usually they're half the price of the console equivalent.


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IfGodCouldDie
08/16/22 1:27:00 PM
#49:


Flockaveli posted...
What are posts 2 3 and 5.
Mr Kapowski posting/being quoted

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supermichael11
08/16/22 1:28:58 PM
#50:


DarkRoast posted...
PS5 and PS4 both have access to PS1 and PS2 games, albeit a limited number of them.

If they got added to the PS4/PS5 that would require repurchase, even if they bought the games from the PSP/PS3 PSN Store.

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