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What would be the overarching story, antagonist, etc.?

Keep most of the major plot-points and characterization as is, but have the trilogy focus on Finn's journey going from a storm trooper to a key resistance figure.

Most of the plot points were fine as is. They just needed a better framework moving forward. Setting up a very safe sequel, letting some guy do whatever he wanted and throwing away the script, then trying to patch it all back together was the big downfall. Nothing particularly wrong with the story itself.

specialkid8 posted...

Nothing particularly wrong with the story itself.

I'd argue that the story didnt need to exist at all tbh. It added nothing meaningful to Star Wars whatsoever.

I'm not a writer, don't put me on the spot like this.

metralo posted...

I'd argue that the story didnt need to exist at all tbh. It added nothing meaningful to Star Wars whatsoever.

But it does, so...

It would be the KOTOR saga, except part 3 would be a completely new thing (and certainly not the SWTOR 'story').

Badly, because I'm a hack.

I like the idea that Lucas originally had in mind with several factions vying for power after the fall of the empire.

As much as I love the idea of being a one man army behind a desk with his pen

.... The sequels were prrrrobably "written" by vote in a panel based on extensive marketing data and stuff. But, all this crap aside we don't have to really deal with on a GFAQs thread lol I did have a vision for a better Star Wars RoS/TLJ and I wonder if someone didn't share that dream somewhere along the way. I might have seen Rey get badly mutilated towards the end of TLJ maybe, and become a white armored Vader/Revan-like figure in RoS, like a sentai hero. Visually, emotionally, and conceptually I think this hits.

Fin would take a bigger role and Poe would be kind of a bad dude

I had a weird dream about TRoS last night. There was a scene in the Senate building where Palpatine electrocuted a "Chancellor" character (idk who it was supposed to be because the New Republic was destroyed in VII) and there were Scooby-Doo characters in it.
Also Vader was back and working with Palpatine again.

Write out all the current characters. And set the current Era with Luke, his Academy and its first graduates as they gradually leqrn about and confront a new threat of force wielders from unknown space and origin.

Im not sure what I wouldve done. But what I wouldnt have done is blowup the new reoublic and Luke's new jedi school

I absolutely loathe when stories go "look at all the cool stuff that happened since the last installment! You dont get to see any of it! Enjoy the status quo sucker!"

Let the goddam world evolve

Most of the problems would be fixed if TLJ was the last one

Rey, Finn, and Poe have more interactions with each other. Which I think Finn couldn't help but think Rey has become a Stormtrooper, and Rey ends up clashing with Poe, fueling her subconscious love for Kylo, but she hooks up with Finn anyway.

CRON posted...

Keep most of the major plot points and characterization as is, but have the trilogy focus on Finn's journey going from a storm trooper to a key resistance figure.

This but I wouldnt have Finns journey be THE focus, it would just be one of the focuses. I like the A plot being Rey's journey to find herself, B plot being Finn's journey and a C plot of Poe going from a headstrong stubborn resistance fighter to being a part of the leadership of the resistance where it all comes together at the end for them to defeat the First Order. I like the idea of Rey learning she was really a nobody and becoming someone, I like the idea of a Stormtrooper turning face and I like the idea of someone making the wrong moves for the right reasons and learning to be more tactful.

The white knight stuff worked great for Mando.

Better

Mostly the same, except for Rise. I don't have any real problems with the broad strokes of any of the earlier ones, but I feel like Rise is doing the work of two movies, among other things, so I would just make it a tetralogy, rearranging and adding events in the story (the Emperor reveal is something that should happen at the end of episode 9, and the aftermath is the plot of episode 10), expanding on elements, giving the characters more to do and time to do it.

It's the prequels which are unsalvageable, but they don't interfere with my enjoyment of The Originals and the sequels.

Distant future, no reference to any of the main characters except for maybe Luke. No already famous Hollywood actors except for maybe a few small roles. Make an original script that has nothing to do with the same Sith lord that has no business randomly popping up in the third movie.

Copy paste all the Kyle Katarn and Dark Empire stuff. Done!

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

It's the prequels which are unsalvageable,

The prequels have perfectly good stories at their foundation, they just needed someone other than Lucas to give them a few rewrites.

You can tell he was just rushing through the script because he cared more about playing with new special effects toys. <_<

OzoneNeon posted...

Copy paste all the Kyle Katarn and Dark Empire stuff. Done!

Like that

I would have made Snoke Darth Plagueis and tied back to the story in RotS. I would have kept him alive and made him the mastermind behind everything.

They heal now?

Slice of life Star Wars it would have sold billions

Sariana21 posted...

I would have made Snoke Darth Plagueis and tied back to the story in RotS. I would have kept him alive and made him the mastermind behind everything.

Would make sense, too, since Sidious told Anakin in Ep. 3 that "to cheat death is a power only one has achieved." That one, of course, being Plagueis.

Sariana21 posted...

I would have made Snoke Darth Plagueis and tied back to the story in RotS. I would have kept him alive and made him the mastermind behind everything.

Well yeah but Ruin Johnson fixed that idea.

Letsago posted...

I had a weird dream about TRoS last night. There was a scene in the Senate building where Palpatine electrocuted a "Chancellor" character (idk who it was supposed to be because the New Republic was destroyed in VII) and there were Scooby-Doo characters in it.
Also Vader was back and working with Palpatine again.

That will probably be a Lego special before too long.

josifrees posted...

Slice of life Star Wars it would have sold billions

You mean like a man in new york movie? With the shots all looking up at him from the ground?

Maybe

Have at least one scene with Luke, Han, Leia, Lando, Chewy, R2, and 3PO together.

Make Finn a Jedi too.

Keep Snoke alive, make him Plagueis.

No Palpatine.

Knights of the Old Republic is really what i want to see them do. Especially since characters like Ahsoka are getting live action adaptations. People responded so well to Mando or the Tuskens in TBoBF.

The cool thing about Kotor is how the planet shots or environment shots segue so fast into a conversation or depiction of how things work on that planet. Similar to how Courascant was pulled off in Episode I or the introduction of Mustafar in Episode iII, or even Kamino in 2. I don't think the sequel trilogy did an especially great job of establishing locations. Luke's planet, the First Order super weapon base in 7, or Palpatine's world and the fallen Death Star world in 9 were great but there's no reason to ever revisit those locations and Palpatine's world is basically a Kotor planet anyway so not really

I wouldnt have, because the story ended with RotJ.

Tbh people who hate how the ST "disrespected" the original trio would've hated my take on it since in my version they would've been in it even less.

Leia would've been a Senator in a corrupted New Republic

Han would've pretty much had the same role he did in TFA

Luke would've been even more reclusive and would've left behind a new generation of largely scattered and disillusioned force users. His role is comparable to Yodas in the original trilogy. He shows up maybe once or twice before passing away and spends the rest of the trilogy as a ghost.

The First Order still exists but no superweapon.

No Resistance. The New Republic exists through the whole trilogy.

Kylo Ren still exists. The Knights of Ren are a much larger organization than in canon and are allied with the FO. They want to resurrect Palpatine and whether they are even capable of doing say and the insane lengths they're going to is a big part of their storyline. They function like a cult/paramilitary force. Destabilizing the NR, hunting Luke's Jedi, stealing Sith artifacts, etc.

Rey and Finn are combined into one character.

Poe can stay.

I've entertained the idea of Luke having a non force sensitive kid or at the very least a kid who opted to never develop his skills but I flip flop on that

In terms of story basically you take "Let the past die" and stretch it out over a whole trilogy.

Luke tried to rebuild the Jedi as they were and it didn't work. The New Republic modelled itself after the Old Republic and it didn't work. Leia is trying to hold things together and it's not working. Han tried to go back to his old life as a con man and criminal and that's not working.

The First Order wants to bring back The Empire, and the Knights of Ren want to resurrect the Emperor and the Sith. Neither will probably work.

TldrReturns posted...

I wouldnt have, because the story ended with RotJ.

RotJ continued on into the Expanded Universe.

For example, I don't think anyone is particularly complaining that Luke started a Jedi school between RotJ & TFA because I think everyone pretty much agreed that's what he would do decades ago already.

Han & Leia having some sort of powerful child who gets wrapped up in the shadow of the Emperor who returns from the dead was also a really popular idea iirc but I think the sequels got way too close to these ideas which could have been mostly in the background with minimal explanation.

The Mandalorian & Obi-Wan Kenobi shows do a better job of bridging the gap between the prequels with the originals, while bringing back the Stormtroopers & Imperial asthetic with the lo-fi for the rebels, which was the 2nd main wish of most people I talked to about it. My only fuel as a fan for new movies is knowing that Star Wars multimedia can be absolutely successful, if not seminal. And I think there's a few side stories at least that the originals suggested which deserve to be adapted officially.

Mandalorian bounty hunter being one of them. Space western

I would have done something insane with Episode 7. I would have put Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher in a scene together. Possibly more than one.

Say what you will about the most recent Jurassic World movie, at least they had the good sense to have the original cast interact with one another.

Inclusion

Over the top powers everywhere. Dudes chopping suns in half. Chicks taking entire desert planets and using them to sandblast opponents. They no longer need death stars because theyre more powerful than them. I want the force itself to spin out of control to where they need to sever the connection for good. Kill that wizard nerd type of Star Wars. Then it can just settle into being a space western from then on there.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Kill that type of Star Wars.

The Force and the Jedi/Sith and the greater effect all of those things have on the universe is what makes the franchise what it is.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Then it can just settle into being a space western from then on there.

I've never understood this desire. There's plenty of other forms of media that are space westerns.

Like instead of turning Star Wars into something else why not just... read or watch those instead?

Kim_Seong-a posted...

The prequels have perfectly good stories at their foundation, they just needed someone other than Lucas to give them a few rewrites.

You can tell he was just rushing through the script because he cared more about playing with new special effects toys. <_<

I guess you could probably salvage The Phantom Menace. Take away Kid Anakin and Qui-Gon Jin, and just have it be a younger Obi-Wan Kenobi and young Anakin Skywalker on a deceptively jolly adventure that basically follows the plot of the movie that exists, and you have a solid basis for a trilogy.

The rest of it, naw, miss me with that shit. The Clone Wars should have remained some throw away comment from the first movie; something that happens before Phantom Menace, because it overly complicates what should be a simple plot, besides the end result being mondo cringe (though I guess you can still have a cartoon - set it before the prequels! idc). The simpler set up of the Trade Federation and their allies being the reason for the rise of the Empire is simple enough to allow the characters themselves to matter, and get the focus.

As for the character story itself, maybe draw a little inspiration from Othello? Lies and whispers about Padme's fidelity can be the catalyst for Anakin's downfall. One of our Jedi (not Kenobi lmao) is the Cassio to Anakin's Othello, and another (secretly in cahoots with Palpatine) is the Iago, egging on the Dark Side in Anakin both directly and indirectly. Outside of that, further friction could be caused by the head of the Jedi Order basically being Mace Windu (Yoda, obviously, is on Dagoba, and not the leader), still making Anakin take a seat. This drama, and a heaping helping of actual trauma here and there over the course of the war, would be what turns him.

Doom_Art posted...

The Force and the Jedi/Sith and the greater effect all of those things have on the universe is what makes the franchise what it is.

I've never understood this desire. There's plenty of other forms of media that are space westerns.

Like instead of turning Star Wars into something else why not just... read or watch those instead?

A New Hope is a space western epic

I really don't think we need Plageuis to ever come back. Him being killed by his apprentice despite "defeating" death is a perfect, self contained little myth. Feels kinda weak to undo that just so the good guys can kill him "for real"

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Clone Wars should have remained some throw away comment from the first movie

I am inclined to agree

Kim_Seong-a posted...

I really don't think we need Plageuis to ever come back. Him being killed by his apprentice despite "defeating" death is a perfect, self contained little myth. Feels kinda weak to undo that just so the good guys can kill him "for real"

Plagueis being Snoke or the big bad of the ST is the only thing that would be worse than what we ended up getting.

Yeah I don't care about bringing Plagueis back, at least not off the top of my head

Leave it on Korriban

Kim_Seong-a posted...

I really don't think we need Plageuis to ever come back. Him being killed by his apprentice despite "defeating" death is a perfect, self contained little myth. Feels kinda weak to undo that just so the good guys can kill him "for real"

That was the whole point of his story. He had infinite power and got killed by his apprentice because his power led to hubris.

Fallen Order vs Kenobi (Inquisitors) is a good time, so maybe that. That's now my idea of Star Wars.

not having a trilogy
i think it was set up to have a nice franchise going for it with different protagonists. an EU, in a way, but with numbered movies that retold both the sith and jedi being rediscovered and resurrected (not literally).

literally an entire universe to continue that could be endless. like final fantasies. imagine how badass that would've been.

Thinking: Rogue One

The best parts of that movie with the best parts of Solo Story

Guess by the titles

Somehow Palpatine's come back!

Somehow Palpatine's come back again!!

Somehow Palpatine's come back for more!!!