Board 8 > Baseball Musical Mafia Topic 4 - Bad Blood - 7PM Start Time!

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I remember hearing about Bryce Harper when he was first drafted that he was said to be the next big thing in baseball. That turned out to be Mike Trout. For better or for worse Harper has had an up and down career, but I still remember awhile back he got hit in the head and how scary it was. When I saw that Bryce Harper was the flavor for who died night one it was the first thing that I thought about. Bryce laying on the baseball field. Always a scary sight.

Changmas has died. He was Bryce Harper, Town Taunter

Bryce Harper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fT8bGSRzGE
Taylor Swift - Bad Blood
Now weve got problems, and I dont think we can solve em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hi_Y65lI-0
Town Taunter

You are Bryce Harper, a superstar who fans love(d) to call overrated. Then you won two MVPs and people look around and realize that while you may not ever live up to being the very best in the league, youre clearly on a hall of fame trek and theres not a damn thing anyone can do about it. You tend to piss people off with your ego and the way you play. Personally, I think you play the game right - always hustling and with a clear love for what you do. You also have some of the best hair in the business, which is a surprisingly competitive field.

You are Town Taunter. Once per night you may target another player, if they have a targetable night action that action will instead target you. If a player has an ability with multiple targets, one target will randomly be chosen and be replaced with you.

Changmas has left the following journal:

"Night 1: I target Lopen.

Please kill ctes."

THE LIVING

1. Ben
2. Corrik
3. ctes
4. Death
5. IGCD
6. Isquen
7. Han
8. HB
9. Lea
10. Lopen
11. Obelisk
12. red13n
13. Sultan
14. Ulti

The Dead

MasterPlum - Town Jailkeeper [LD1]
Changmas - Town Taunter [KN1]

DAY HAS NOT STARTED YET, DO NOT POST

What

Can I ask you guys to lynch someone with no questions asked? Sultan can shoot whoever he wants, but if he doesn't wanna shoot who I say... can we no questions asked agree to lynch the person I want?

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Corrik7 posted...

Can I ask you guys to lynch someone with no questions asked? Sultan can shoot whoever he wants, but if he doesn't wanna shoot who I say... can we no questions asked agree to lynch the person I want?

Why should we do this?

Well anyway, that end of time was impossible to follow. I did think about voting Isquen but I didnt want to risk causing a tie.
Still feel that Isquen was the scum in that chaos. And of the people who voted Plum I like Lopen the least...

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I ask that you lynch Ulti. No questions asked. He is scum. That is all that is needed to be known regarding it.

My paranoia is that scum chose to give out a gun at all because none of the people who were popular lynches at endgame yesterday are scum.

Okay Corrik, say I believe you.
Why Ulti?
Also if what you say is true.. why reveal the info right away instead of letting Ulti say more stuff that could tell us more.

Leanansidhe posted...

Well, well, well. Now this is role madness. Truly entertaining ability! I look forward to what happens.

Is killing Changmas n1 the meta now, or is Lopen scum?

Maybe Changmas taunted his own killer?
Weird choice to deja vu otherwise though.

Listen. I know who two mafia are. Without a doubt. You can listen or not. I am asking for no questions on how I know what I know.

After Plum's flip, me Chang and Sultan looked the best.

Ulti looks the worst from the flip, but honestly that's what I would expect Town Ulti.

My thought from what occurred yesterday was actually that Lopen was probably right about Red. But in the event that he was wrong, then he's most likely Scum, because Lopen's argument on Red is too airtight and would be the kind of argument that Scum would be able to put onto Town, knowing that, well, the argument is damn good.

Ctes and Isquen I can still see BOTH as Scum. Ctes is pretty assuredly Scum. But IF Ctes is Scum, then I think Ben is cleared? If anything, I'm feeling better about Ben being Town than anybody (aside from Chang and Sultan) as a result of that lynch.

Otherwise, everybody sort of made themselves look bad in retrospect. Corrik focusing on Chang and SBell puts a big spotlight on him. Death soft-protecting BCT earlier in the day just to lynch him could be damning. And Hb hung around the shadows after I stopped focusing on him, just to lynch Plum.

However, we have to accept that Scum thought Chang was going to be Towncleared for saying BCT wasn't Scum in order to shoot him. I don't know if I can buy that.

Corrik7 posted...

Listen. I know who two mafia are. Without a doubt. You can listen or not. I am asking for no questions on how I know what I know.

pass

Hold off for a second. I just wanna verify one thing first.

Corrik7 posted...

Listen. I know who two mafia are. Without a doubt. You can listen or not. I am asking for no questions on how I know what I know.

If one is Ulti, who is the second?

In fact, Corrik's actions right now look like Scum making a play to get Sultan to shoot Ulti to get two more Town dead.

Sultan, do me a favor friend, never ever ever shoot Ulti right now.

Hbthebattle posted...

My paranoia is that scum chose to give out a gun at all because none of the people who were popular lynches at endgame yesterday are scum.

Or that Sultans suspects are all town.

First of all, I am still pissed that we specialed the first day, even if it was people that was already in contention to be lynched. Three hours to go is absolutely specialing too, there is little excuse for not going into my post made minutes into the day earlier. Youre better than this, Han, and I am vary. Not to mention it looked like everyone failed to realize that was not an attempt at dropping in, it was a response to Ben opening the game by claiming. We could have cleared that out much earlier.

Just because we will likely look at the last-minute trains. No, I did not believe plum was scum (even if he shouldve done more the last hours) and I had made that clear several times earlier in the day. That vote from me was a last minute jump to save myself, simply because I was 100% sure I was not scum while I could have been wrong about plum. No reason not to be clear about that. Of course, Isquen was the best candidate there by far, but it didnt look likely, I waited until within the last minute too. I realize on a reread it can look like we couldve lynched him, but people were to late to jump on that. Again, Han, youre guilty about this, after last game especially theres no good excuse for not clearing these things out earlier regardless of where your vote would end.

Isquen should absolutely still be the focus I believe. After all that happened yesterday, he was literally there for the endgame but just admitted to throw a vote to save himself instead of arguing. I believe he was active in scumchat and just hoped I wouldnt be able to stop the mislynch of me. Somehow none of us got it. If Im right about this, I think Ulti looks pretty good, that interaction is weird scum/scum.

This is where I would throw my vote, but turns out we're not allowed to do that.

Now the new mechanics of Sultan getting a gun as well as chang dying is changes a bit of what I was gonna say next, I need to rephrase some stuff.

Hbthebattle posted...

If one is Ulti, who is the second?

Sbell is the second.

Both are absolutely MAFIA.

Girl, I was saying BCT was Town.

Remind me everyone of this always - my early reads are usually right, and I need to not second-guess myself ever. I should've fought hard against that, so my apologies Plum, I'll blame myself for that mislynch.

Anyway, after that check-in post, Ctes continues to be Scum. Most damning is that he's not sussing me here, he's not pushing me, all he's saying is "ur better than that Han. I am wary"

Corrik7 posted...

Listen. I know who two mafia are. Without a doubt. You can listen or not. I am asking for no questions on how I know what I know.

If you know two I dont know why you would let Sultan shoot whoever still.

Also I realize that we cannot ask those types of questions. I just figured the questions I did ask were safe. But for now that answer fulfills enough of my needs.
I kinda want to believe you, since I dont recall you ever just outright starting a day like this.

htaeD posted...

If you know two I dont know why you would let Sultan shoot whoever still.

It's his choice to make. I am not directing someone's shot.

Sultan ended the day on Ben, I believe. Might be the case there.

Sultan, are you willing to accept that Scum gave you a gun because they think you'll shoot Ben, and not do it?

I'm not saying he can't be Scum, but I think you have to go with the sure shot here, which is either Ctes or Lopen.

ctesjbuvf posted...

First of all, I am still pissed that we specialed the first day,

This is such a clear Scumpost.

I can't believe I let Plum get lynched for this.

Really sucks the people that are town are people who blindly refuse to listen to anything I say.

I have told the game more information than will be unfolded the rest of the day already. Choose whatever you want. Ulti is the stronger of the 2 scum - rolewise.

Have a good day.

Leanansidhe posted...

Really? What about that time Corrik bluffed a track on you, specifically?

Was that right at the start of the day?
To be fair I blocked that terrible moment from my memory so thanks for bringing it back.

So I was working on an ISO of chang, was done with topic 1 and then he died. Might be worth it to continue even though he died, but I was doing it because I suspected him. Either way, that'll be finished after I have slept.

I disagree heavily that chang looked good after the flip, he looked bad the whole day and him disappearing for the last 1-2 hours to not change his vote doesn't make him look good at all, Han. IGCD did the same for what's it worth. Isquen also disappeared. In no universe does chang look good after that flip, that's an absurd statement to make. And chang, you're reading this I'm sure, I wish I could see you find out you were wrong.

I keep thinking Han should be better than making all these absurd statements if he's town, honestly, the primary thing keeping me from thinking he's scum is that he's gonna look awful if I did and flip town but maybe he's thinking two town dying is worth it if he can get Sultan to miss that. Again, this train on me was because I immediately responded to Ben opening the game with playing 4d chess, right? That's what started making me your primary suspect. Did you ever even acknowledge that it wasn't a "checking in" post, but a response to that? Seriously Han, if you're town, you've fallen off a cliff from last game.

If ctes is scum, and he had a wall prepared for Chang, it kinda suggests scum didnt expect him to be the one to die, doesnt it

Corrik7 posted...

Really sucks the people that are town are people who blindly refuse to listen to anything I say.

I have told the game more information than will be unfolded the rest of the day already. Choose whatever you want. Ulti is the stronger of the 2 scum - rolewise.

Have a good day.

Nevermind I am back to fulldoubt Corrik if this is the way he is playing whatever role he has.

Dont think it makes him scum though.. just Corrik.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Seriously Han, if you're town, you've fallen off a cliff from last game.

I was the primary person championing BCT as Town.

Are you saying I was wrong?

I am having a hard time understanding why chang would be the one shot directly, I need to think about that. If he wasn't shot directly, that obviously makes Lopen look incredibly bad, but yeah, gotta collect some thoughts on that.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, after that check-in post, Ctes continues to be Scum. Most damning is that he's not sussing me here, he's not pushing me, all he's saying is "ur better than that Han. I am wary"

You don't get to get away with stating something like this when I've just posted something I made clear I had written up before day started and said I had more to come. You were good enough to wait 69 hours to do anything about your read of my post minutes into the day, you can wait 5 minutes before saying I wouldn't do that.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I keep thinking Han should be better than making all these absurd statements if he's town, honestly, the primary thing keeping me from thinking he's scum is that he's gonna look awful if I did and flip town but maybe he's thinking two town dying is worth it if he can get Sultan to miss that. Again, this train on me was because I immediately responded to Ben opening the game with playing 4d chess, right? That's what started making me your primary suspect. Did you ever even acknowledge that it wasn't a "checking in" post, but a response to that? Seriously Han, if you're town, you've fallen off a cliff from last game.

sorry ctes, but this only works when I do it :^)

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I was the primary person championing BCT as Town.

Are you saying I was wrong?

Han is town, but he just refuses to ever listen to anyone and thinks he is better than everyone.

I told you Plum was town yesterday also.

Corrik7 posted...

Han is town, but he just refuses to ever listen to anyone and thinks he is better than everyone.

I told you Plum was town yesterday also.

I am much better than I think I am, as this and the last game's day 1's have proven.

If I was more full of myself, we'd have one Scum down already!

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I am much better than I think I am, as this and the last game's day 1's have proven.

If I was more full of myself, we'd have one Scum down already!

If you just listened to me ever... *sigh*

Corrik7 posted...

If you just listened to me ever... *sigh*

Youre not asking him to listen, youre asking for blind faith. Theres a difference.

Every top lynch choice yesterday was a lazy low hanging fruit easy to justify mislynch. They were weaker players being preyed upon. I don't know what was hard to see about that.

Well that's incredibly unfortunate luck.

If you have to lynch me to clear the air that's fine. I feel like in role madness there are going to be a lot of redirection roles though so don't just auto assume Chang taunted me killing him. I'm not saying anyone should claim to save me or anything but it would be cool if we don't just autolynch me.

I just ask Sultan not shoot me. Like if you gotta kill me for clarity, lynch me properly please. I think Ctes or Isquen look like the best lynch today because of that chaos-- no way with all that last minute vote moving that there were no scum on that. In depth look at the voting scramble might tell us which makes more sense. I mean maybe Ulti too if you wanna believe Corrik.

Corrik7 posted...

If you just listened to me ever... *sigh*

Learn to put together convincing arguments. If people don't like listening to you, the problem is not other people.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Learn to put together convincing arguments. If people don't like listening to you, the problem is not other people.

If someone is over here telling you to do the right thing over and over and you see this repeatedly after the fact, you don't treat them like Cassandra and blow them off.

At some point that is on you for not listening, no matter how the arguments are formed.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

After Plum's flip, me Chang and Sultan looked the best.

Not a huge fan of the self callout, but show me what clears you.

However, we have to accept that Scum thought Chang was going to be Towncleared for saying BCT wasn't Scum in order to shoot him. I don't know if I can buy that.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ctes and Isquen I can still see BOTH as Scum. Ctes is pretty assuredly Scum. But IF Ctes is Scum, then I think Ben is cleared? If anything, I'm feeling better about Ben being Town than anybody (aside from Chang and Sultan) as a result of that lynch.

Explain this if you can, because I still dont feel there's anything stopping Ctes from being town. And out of all the people yesterday he was the one i would never have voted for.