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KaZooo
01/12/23 12:25:32 AM
#351:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVsAVYDYhFI

On a broad spectrum, I usually can't really get impressed with English covers. There's some vocal showcase as far as range, but the when the pronunciation falls short, it's like why bother? There's just the reality that there exist better bilingual performers in the industry. Lily's "Finesse" and "Survivor" covers being a fresh example, and she's a rookie.

This doesn't shape my opinion of BM. It's not what I'd call a marketable approach, though.

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PumpkinCoach
01/12/23 1:12:50 AM
#352:


oh yeah, the list

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCMoLL8mA8nzaWgHalt5XESV6Y15tUhLo

100. Lightsum - Alive
99. M.M.D - WooAh HIP
98. Astro - Candy Sugar Pop
97. Jung Dakyung - Tell him to go (feat. So Yeon)
96. SNSD - Forever 1
95. Limelight - Eye to Eye
94. Dreamcatcher - Starlight
93. H1-KEY - Heart Light
92. YooA - Lay Low
91. (G)I-DLE - Change

90. WEi - Too Bad
89. MCND - W.A.T.1
88. SNSD - Lucky Like That
87. P1Harmony - Doom Du Doom
86. Dreamcatcher - Vision
85. Miyeon - Te Amo
84. Treasure - Darari (Remix)
83. Kang Daniel - Parade
82. BAE173 - Annoyed
81. Twice - Talk that talk

80. Mirae - Welcome To The Future
79. Davichi - Fanfare
78. Max Changmin - Maniac
77. Stray Kids - Maniac
76. Stayc - Young Luv
75. (G)I-DLE - Sculpture
74. iKON - Dragon
73. Adora - Magical Symphony
72. Younha - Event Horizon
71. TAN - Louder

70. Dreamcatcher - Beauty Full (Dami Solo)
69. Brave Girls - Love is Gone
68. Key - Another Life
67. Treasure - Hello
66. Adora - The Little Name
65. (G)I-DLE - Villain Dies
64. uni - DIVE
63. Kara - When I Move
62. NMIXX - Cool (Your rainbow)
61. Seulgi - 28 Reasons

60. Fifty Fifty - Lovin Me
59. Hwa Yeon - Blossom
58. RoaD-B - Icarus
57. Stayc - RUN2U
56. Pentagon - One Shot
55. Red Velvet - Feel My Rhythm
54. (G)I-DLE - Dark (X-file)
53. Kim Yo Han - Dessert
52. Brave Girls - Thank You
51. TAN - Walking on the Moon

50. Drippin - The One
49. SNSD - Villain
48. Able (Jang Hyunseung) - Feeling
47. Hynn - Orpheus (feat. Gwangil Jo)
46. Chungha - Sparkling
45. IVE - After Like
44. Kep1er - Mvsk
43. ILY:1 - Love in Bloom
42. Enhypen - Shout Out
41. (G)I-DLE - Reset

40. BE'O - Love Me
39. H1-KEY - Catch 'n' Release
38. CSR - Euratcha!
37. Stayc - Beautiful Monster
36. Alice - Dance On
35. Younha - c/2022YH
34. Class:y - Classy
33. Rocket Punch - In My World
32. IVE - My Satisfaction
31. Miyeon - Drive

30. msftz - takeoff
29. WJSN - Done
28. H1-KEY - Run
27. Class:y - Tick Tick Boom
26. iKON - But You
25. Taeyeon - INVU
24. j-hope - Arson
23. Class:y - Divin' into You
22. Junny - Not About You
21. Rocket Punch - Flash

20. Apink - Dilemma
19. woo!ah! - Catch the Stars
18. Class:y - Shut Down
17. Super Junior - Mango
16. Kwon Eun Bi - Glitch
15. Max Changmin - Fever
14. Rocket Punch - Chiquita
13. Pentagon - Call My Name
12. Golden Child - Replay
11. Cherry Bullet - Love in Space

10. Adora - Trouble? Travel
9. IVE - Love Dive
8. Purple Kiss - Nerdy
7. TAN - Du Du Du
6. (G)I-DLE - Never Stop Me
5. CSR - Pop? Pop!
4. (G)I-DLE - Nxde
3. WJSN - Last Sequence
2. (G)I-DLE - Tomboy
1. Pentagon - The Game

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KainWind
01/12/23 10:25:45 AM
#353:


PumpkinCoach posted...
oh yeah, the list

I was thinking of making a top 10 list or something but I haven't listened to everything I want to from last year yet. Interesting that most of my fave songs from last year off the top of my head aren't even on this list, but I still like pretty much all of the girl songs you listed.

My top few is something like:

Dreamcatcher - Maison
Le Sserafim - Fearless (and basically all of their songs)
IVE - After Like
Nayeon - No Problem
NewJeans - Hype Boy
Yena - Smiley
STAYC - RUN2U

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Ruddager
01/13/23 8:42:36 AM
#354:


Interesting, only 4 of the 9 loona members won their injunction to suspend contracts.
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YamaChan
01/13/23 10:06:35 PM
#355:


Okay. Ready for some more NewJeans spam, thread?

  • NewJeans has been #1 on every hourly, daily, weekly chart in Korea for the past 400 hours. In case you're wondering, that's the most by a girl group ever. The only artists in front of them are BTS (Dynamite) and IU (Celebrity). It is looking like the only group that can potentially block NJ from getting the all-time record is...NewJeans
  • Why? Because NewJeans also own the 2nd and 3rd spot on every single chart in Korea with OMG and Hype Boy respectively. Hype Boy is almost 6 months old by the way. Here's a visual: https://twitter.com/NewJeansCharts/status/1610989180196192256?s=20&t=g-1DG421We6Vh8Txm1R-pQ


  • NewJeans is on track to debut on the Billboard Hot 100 next week. Yep. that's right. Ditto is that big. And they will be the first girl group of this generation to do it
  • NewJeans is also the first girl group since 2016 to take the #1 spot on the Weekly Oricon chart in Japan. They've barely done any promos there outside of KCON and it hasn't mattered. Japan wants more.
  • NewJeans is the first girl group of their generation to break through the UK Singles Chart. They are already the highest charting 4th gen song on the chart. They also started off 2023 on top of the QQ chart (the Chinese equivalent to Melon) with both Ditto and OMG
I usually spare this thread my chart nerd rants, but this goes back to what I said maybe a couple months ago? NewJeans is on a historic tear to start their careers, and they're not just big in Korea anymore. No girl group, not a single one, has had a start to their careers like this.

When Hype Boy finally exits the top 10, I'll start to gather some details on what the hell that monster song accomplished.

I mean it when I say this:

DAMN!

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YamaChan
01/13/23 10:11:30 PM
#356:


Ruddager posted...
Interesting, only 4 of the 9 loona members won their injunction to suspend contracts.

The remaining 5 made revisions in their contracts two or so years ago that the other 4 did not. The courts found the other 4 members had a similar contract to Chuu and thus decided they should get the same freedom to cancel out their contract with Blockberry.

What a fucking mess.

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KainWind
01/13/23 11:57:26 PM
#357:


I miss Loona, but I am so happy I got to see them last year.

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_BlueMonk
01/13/23 11:59:37 PM
#358:


YamaChan posted...
DAMN
https://youtu.be/lTSVfYM2Pdk?t=3

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KaZooo
01/14/23 12:26:50 AM
#359:


Ruddager posted...
Interesting, only 4 of the 9 loona members won their injunction to suspend contracts.
If the other 5 perform, gonna be weird. It'd pretty much be watching people held against their will to perform (to a degree)

YamaChan posted...
Okay. Ready for some more NewJeans spam, thread?
I'm still on that same note of how makes most other current groups pale, and questioning what the weight/legitimacy is with awards shows (although that's not really new).

Taeyang/Jimin collab.
Collab is cooler than the song imo. Both Bigbang and BTS were at the top of their generations, coming from then-smaller companies. The sense of originality with their earlier stuff especially is pretty unmatched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXCBiF67jLM


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_BlueMonk
01/14/23 7:57:52 PM
#360:


Guys I gotta say

this has been the best K-pop summer ever

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KaZooo
01/15/23 1:57:34 PM
#361:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysJCTCQYJyg

strong voice. It's just what when she's trying to sustain the right notes and backing, the words get mushed together and it gets harder to understand what she's actually saying.

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_BlueMonk
01/15/23 1:59:13 PM
#362:


KaZooo posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysJCTCQYJyg

strong voice. It's just what when she's trying to sustain the right notes and backing, the words get mushed together and it gets harder to understand what she's actually saying.
i can't believe they're calling them babymonster. the disrepect

what's next. 2ne2? Large Explosion?

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KaZooo
01/16/23 11:19:53 PM
#363:


GOT album is up

It's ok imo. Not necessarily underwhelmed, but not into it. Karina's voice blends well with the older memebrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHouyzSH6tE

What may be getting lost for me is again, direction/concept. They're just...doing this for the sake of putting the girls together. While I'm obviously not the intended audience for NJ, it's clear that they're centered around more relatable subjects of their target audience. They dwell into that better.

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KainWind
01/16/23 11:42:45 PM
#364:


I'm definitely listening to GOT when I get a chance tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/AWIpPQ6z-rk

I kinda like this new Yena song. She's trying a new style this time.

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KaZooo
01/16/23 11:58:31 PM
#365:


KainWind posted...
I'm definitely listening to GOT when I get a chance tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/AWIpPQ6z-rk

I kinda like this new Yena song. She's trying a new style this time.
Was checking this out too.

I'm sorry if I'm insulting her creative tastes, but Nick Jr. Tiny Toons Yena was just not it.
What she offers in a more mature tone and setting is more impressive. She was pretty much the best dancer in IZ*ONE.

There should be an Everglow ft. Yena collab so they can just poop all over everyone else during their comeback season.


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YamaChan
01/17/23 4:48:51 PM
#366:


Ayo. It happened.

https://twitter.com/billboardcharts/status/1615389203700883457?s=20&t=iyuYUWAVEBoKn3UkyW304g

Not even 6 months old, and NewJeans becomes both the fastest and 5th K-Pop group overall to ever chart on the Billboard Hot 100, joining Wonder Girls, BTS, BLACKPINK and Twice.

Wow.

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_BlueMonk
01/17/23 4:50:12 PM
#367:


ive had newjeans on repeat for the last week and forgot im supposed to be a fearnot lol

THEY ARE THAT DAMN GOOD

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KaZooo
01/17/23 4:52:48 PM
#368:


_BlueMonk posted...
ive had newjeans on repeat for the last week and forgot im supposed to be a fearnot lol

THEY ARE THAT DAMN GOOD
You're a fearnotnot now.

Sorry Chaewon. NJ is just....cooler.


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YamaChan
01/17/23 4:58:57 PM
#369:


But they're not funnier.

LSF is comedic gold and pure entertainment.

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_BlueMonk
01/17/23 5:14:34 PM
#370:


KaZooo posted...
You're a fearnotnot now.

Sorry Chaewon. NJ is just....cooler.
i dunno mang, maybe when Hanni becomes a pro wrestler like Sakura

https://youtu.be/-oG6-pQd3mo?t=333

5 star classic right there

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KaZooo
01/18/23 10:29:23 PM
#371:


_BlueMonk posted...
i dunno mang, maybe when Hanni becomes a pro wrestler like Sakura

https://youtu.be/-oG6-pQd3mo?t=333

5 star classic right there
Japanese wrestler girlfriend is a something that crossed my mind. Just thinking about how they use their time..."training"...everyday to make a living is....fascinating.

Still a little lukewarm here. I won't nitpick, but like the other exercises, I don't find it does anything in making an impression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-p1Ve_RKQ


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paerarru
01/18/23 11:28:58 PM
#372:


PumpkinCoach posted...
oh yeah, the list

Wow, Hyunseung is not (even close to) your #1, never thought I'd see the day. And how come you like IVE so much? They might be our biggest mutual like now, after CLC. Also, again thanks for helping keep Class:y relevant. Also can't believe you put Elris there. And Mvsk lol... you're always full of surprises, Pumpkin.

KaZooo posted...
She was pretty much the best dancer in IZ*ONE.

Whoa. I knew you were a fan but dang.

_BlueMonk posted...
i dunno mang, maybe when Hanni becomes a pro wrestler like Sakura

How is Sakura not my all time ultimate bias? See this is what I missed while I was getting into Kpop. Her channel is amazing. Like, she's so SMART. She's an INTP goddess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdBFtBSC-8

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KainWind
01/19/23 12:06:15 AM
#373:


Youtube has been feeding me a steady supply of Le Sserafim clips lately. They are fun.

paerarru posted...
CLC

I miss CLC...I miss a lot of groups, even though I pretty much only know them for their music.

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_BlueMonk
01/19/23 12:07:17 AM
#374:


paerarru posted...
How is Sakura not my all time ultimate bias? See this is what I missed while I was getting into Kpop. Her channel is amazing. Like, she's so SMART. She's an INTP goddess.
we are definitely blessed by her

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YamaChan
01/19/23 1:32:30 PM
#375:


Sakura is an S-Tier idol. Gorgeous, extremely intelligent, kind and hilarious even when she's not trying to be, and she's also a hardcore gamer and anime fan (her dream is to sing an anime OST for her favorite anime)

What's not to love about her?

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PumpkinCoach
01/19/23 9:17:42 PM
#376:


paerarru posted...
Wow, Hyunseung is not (even close to) your #1
#1 in my heart, though.

And how come you like IVE so much?
eh, no real strong feeling about ive other than that starship gives them good songs. (tbh i almost included a naver now cam for my satisfaction on the playlist... but wonyoung's mugging to the camera kinda made the song worse so i just went with the track by itself lol)

Also, again thanks for helping keep Class:y relevant.
roty imo - idk how they managed to get such a talented lineup from a survival show (well, i kinda do since i watched it). good showing for rookie girl groups overall - got 17 songs on the list (i'm including ive's december debut). so yeah, some positivity from under the hybe takeover of the market!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfUAckewh_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEgyvw5NECI

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KaZooo
01/20/23 12:19:04 AM
#377:


Being a Twice hater aside, Tzuyu impressively has got the hang of English vocals over most of the other members. Pronunciation and clarity.

I know she's loosely able to speak it, but not fluently. That + her starting as not so strong of a vocalist, she's come a long way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKlEE_EYuNM

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_BlueMonk
01/20/23 8:30:48 PM
#378:


Chae killed me with that deep sultry voice in her rap

also Momo

god damn put those away please I have a family

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MedeaLysistrata
01/21/23 12:32:01 AM
#379:


new Twice!

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_BlueMonk
01/22/23 8:36:11 AM
#380:


newJeans is canceled yall

Danielle made the fatal mistake of not knowing the absolute VITRIOL that Koreans have for China. or at least the loud ones online.

time to pack it up and gaur back to australlia.

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KaZooo
01/22/23 2:18:08 PM
#381:


I see she tried to apologize. Watch it come down to a Tzuyu ransom video message.

Might be my favorite Babymonster vocals, and a bit crazy at her age. Don't know how they came up with her name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9GF5oklUNs

Minnie, Ten, sure I'm missing some others, but vocalists from Thailand can be standouts in their groups

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KaZooo
01/23/23 8:39:27 PM
#382:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50l8Uw7NYuQ

Slightly longer hair Chaewon incoming.

Michelle era was still her best look imo, although iirc those were extensions.

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KaZooo
01/23/23 10:02:23 PM
#383:


o snap

BP is kinda weak

But limited Oreos tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF5zkhzxdAg

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KaZooo
01/24/23 9:11:38 PM
#384:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiGnWwgLAfE

Not sure if he video concept really had a direction (or an effective one at least).
Would've been cool if they traded in some extra lines for Sakura, but I guess that'd screw with the choreography.

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KaZooo
01/26/23 1:01:30 AM
#385:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZufBWhMg-dM

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KaZooo
01/26/23 11:50:50 PM
#386:


where comeback

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_BlueMonk
01/27/23 9:42:37 AM
#387:


just wanted to say how much i love Haewon

stan her

NOW

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Blue_Inigo
01/28/23 6:40:45 PM
#388:


I'm just now discovering New Jeans. OMG is a bop

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KaZooo
01/28/23 7:34:13 PM
#389:


Blue_Inigo posted...
I'm just now discovering New Jeans. OMG is a bop
Bruh come on catch up.

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Blue_Inigo
01/29/23 10:38:17 AM
#390:


Are any of their other songs good

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KainWind
01/29/23 10:47:50 AM
#391:


They only have 6 songs right now, but Hype Boy is their best imo.

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YamaChan
01/30/23 4:46:55 PM
#392:


Make sure you watch the MVs for OMG and Ditto. You won't regret it.

Hype Boy is still their best song for me too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wUKhEgnllc

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KaZooo
01/30/23 10:35:21 PM
#393:


I'm not too sure about this idea. It's kinda impressive, but I hardly put that towards the musical value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_qBGemF90U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVtkdTpy_g

YamaChan posted...
Hype Boy is still their best song for me too.

I think Hype Boy definitely fulfilled its position as a lead single. It's the brightest of all the tracks and has the "catchiest" choreography. Also helps they made so many video variants.

My favorite is probably Ditto. Usually holiday-timed releases have a more dedicated tone, and for them to pull it off as well as ridiculously well I feel put a stamp on the fact they're not just a group with a lucky/hot start. It's something of an indicator of "there's more where that came from".

They didn't shy away from going into topics at more depth, which for such a young group kinda makes older groups look a bit silly.


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YamaChan
01/30/23 11:49:21 PM
#394:


KaZooo posted...
I'm not too sure about this idea. It's kinda impressive, but I hardly put that towards the musical value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_qBGemF90U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVtkdTpy_g

I think Hype Boy definitely fulfilled its position as a lead single. It's the brightest of all the tracks and has the "catchiest" choreography. Also helps they made so many video variants.

My favorite is probably Ditto. Usually holiday-timed releases have a more dedicated tone, and for them to pull it off as well as ridiculously well I feel put a stamp on the fact they're not just a group with a lucky/hot start. It's something of an indicator of "there's more where that came from".

They didn't shy away from going into topics at more depth, which for such a young group kinda makes older groups look a bit silly.

If you like Ditto, I highly recommend their recent behind the scenes video of them recording the vocals for both Ditto and OMG. This is simply awesome content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn5ZzRZ9yto&t=

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KaZooo
01/31/23 12:04:41 AM
#395:


I actually was watching that a bit earlier today.
It's cool to see how they apply themselves to the recording process. The re-takes and corrections they're mindful of. Granted it's a normal thing in recording. Just fascinating to see a younger group in the process.

Hanni's raw vocals are impressive. I've heard it in a recent encore, but to hit the sharper lines, I thought her mic would be a little boosted to help with projection


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YamaChan
01/31/23 12:10:37 AM
#396:


Hanni has always impressed me, but Hyein has impressed me lately. Like I never would've guessed that almost haunting, melodic intro to Ditto was her or that she actually recorded that with her raw voice.

There have been a few times during some of the more vocally dominant parts of their songs where I was surprised it was Hyein and not Hanni.

She's getting a lot of good attention from that behind the scenes video.

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KainWind
01/31/23 8:41:13 AM
#397:


https://twitter.com/alwaysbeenmy/status/1619662940663336962?t=CMxGNTmF4RgjqmBMkXrVVg&s=19

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KaZooo
01/31/23 9:29:53 AM
#398:


Viviz album was pretty good on my first listen today

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YamaChan
02/01/23 12:45:50 AM
#399:


https://twitter.com/NewJeansCharts/status/1620653746769518592?s=20&t=OtKrFP4TNk-T8P3YRpHbAQ

Legendary

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"Key which hides the powers of darkness... Show your true power before me. Under the contract, Sakura commands you. Release!!" - Sakura Kinomoto
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Ruddager
02/01/23 9:27:22 AM
#400:


BBC's trying to pull an SM

https://twitter.com/gointosubbit/status/1620707298074300416
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