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KaZooo
07/26/22 9:56:40 AM
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Last one purged real fast. :-/
@Memorial_Bench


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Mezcla
07/26/22 9:57:11 AM
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Kpop is canceled

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KaZooo
07/27/22 1:20:44 AM
#3:


Album has grown on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKNEpe0SHuE

*also my tags don't seem to pick up the usual posters

:-(

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KhlavicLanguage
07/27/22 1:21:08 AM
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so what percentage of male kpop fans are just obsessive coomers
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KaZooo
07/27/22 10:53:13 PM
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>_>

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paerarru
07/27/22 11:06:42 PM
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Mezcla posted...
Kpop is canceled

See, I knew it was gonna be because of HYBE. Freaking noobs. Case in point there.

For the real fans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUuV94U0uU

Wow. Wow.

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KaZooo
07/28/22 11:02:44 PM
#7:


Gyuri

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KaZooo
07/30/22 6:51:27 AM
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Choreography and fromis isn't all that new, but this one seems exceptionally cohesive imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmsxXRqR9F4

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Mezcla
07/30/22 11:27:09 AM
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so like others, i've become obsessed with Chaeryeong. i always liked her before, but she is absolutely glowing this comeback.
https://youtu.be/diIGfnlgfK0

she is
A M A Z I N G

paerarru posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUuV94U0uU
haha oh man. i watched Hello Baby when it came out and occasionally i think "oh yeah that kid must be a teenager now" and sure enough.

it must be so weird though, right? he 100% does not remember them. he was a baby. i wonder what it was like growing up hearing that the nation's most premier group adored you as a baby and you're just like "oh yeah uh?????"

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paerarru
07/30/22 10:21:34 PM
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@PumpkinCoach hates fromis because Natty's not on it. Also Haein. Wait, actually I hate that too; she was rigged out of the group (well, everybody in the show was). Petition to add Haein to fromis. Even though I think the lineup is perfect.

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paerarru
07/30/22 10:32:01 PM
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Mezcla posted...
so like others, i've become obsessed with Chaeryeong. i always liked her before, but she is absolutely glowing this comeback.

she is
A M A Z I N G

This. This so much. Ryeongchae is even more extra than Yuna (in the absolute best way possible) and that's what we're here for. And yes of course she's super talented and gahgeous.



haha oh man. i watched Hello Baby when it came out and occasionally i think "oh yeah that kid must be a teenager now" and sure enough.

it must be so weird though, right? he 100% does not remember them. he was a baby. i wonder what it was like growing up hearing that the nation's most premier group adored you as a baby and you're just like "oh yeah uh?????"

Yeah lol it's crazy. But also amazeballs. I love how everything in Kpop we were looking forwards to in the future years ago has been happening. Well maybe not everything... there's still a lot of sad. But so many great, heartwarming moments.

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PumpkinCoach
07/31/22 11:57:16 AM
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i seriously need to watch that new snsd variety show.

paerarru posted...
@PumpkinCoach hates fromis because Natty's not on it. Also Haein. Wait, actually I hate that too; she was rigged out of the group (well, everybody in the show was). Petition to add Haein to fromis. Even though I think the lineup is perfect.

233 instances of vote manipulation lmao nothing was real on that show

but eh, what's done is done. 'to heart' was actually one of my favourite debut songs ever - my problem now is that their discog has been bland since 2019.

speaking of natty she signed with S2 a few weeks ago, who just disbanded hot issue after less than a year a few months ago. hope this goes better for her than it did for them, and that they give her good songs like her last 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IpXmqdFSw
god, once upon a time it looked like we could have had this group (- eunsuh and prob haneul, + yuri)

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PumpkinCoach
07/31/22 12:27:32 PM
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went back to this to check who all from idol school were there and remembered this was how they announced pd48 (also rigged btw no i'm not bitter)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_5qzkFgr9E

i remember everyone seeing the high ranking senbatsu members and saying there's no way, it's going to be all theatre girls, and in the end they got fucking sakura and jurina.

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paerarru
08/02/22 10:35:16 AM
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PumpkinCoach posted...


but eh, what's done is done. 'to heart' was actually one of my favourite debut songs ever - my problem now is that their discog has been bland since 2019.

oh, actually my favorite stuff of theirs is among the more recent and overall I prefer it to their earlier stuff, but yeah I guess it's got more of that "synthetic" feel you don't like

i remember everyone seeing the high ranking senbatsu members and saying there's no way, it's going to be all theatre girls, and in the end they got fucking sakura and jurina.

To this day my brain still can't process seeing Myao on screen actually just being a Korean idol, trainee. She does it so naturally lol.

I was thinking of posting this earlier but I guess there's another reason now, I didn't know it'd be I think their last variety appearance together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ZIWJaKWGY

Yeah there's been a lot of good stuff lately from all kinds of sources, I don't wanna spam every little net show, much less stuff from a group's actual channel but like LeSserafim are so fun and charismatic, I love all their content.

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paerarru
08/02/22 11:02:58 AM
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paerarru posted...
I don't wanna spam every little net show, much less stuff from a group's actual channel

Quoting myself lol, sorry that came out a little wrong, I mean I try to look for eclectic stuff someone might have missed when I post, but of course anything you guys wanna comment on is great, no matter where it comes from.

I wonder what Kpop looks like to someone who's not a fan, I mean I can see how people wouldn't really understand it if you just look at the obvious, or of course you can just enjoy the actual song and dance, that's great also, but like I remember some years ago when I was rewatching stuff I'd watched MANY years ago, back when I was just getting into it, I'd get things I'd missed back then, understanding certain references, jokes, there's so many connections to miss potentially. The thing is idol pop has always been tied to shows for me and all kinds of stuff, since the beginning because of the way I got into it it's always been at least as much for the culture etc as the music.

https://www.tiktok.com/@official_chungha/video/7124197014371339522

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PumpkinCoach
08/03/22 8:47:03 PM
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since we're kind of on a nostalgia kick, i appreciate this new group doing 2015 lovelyz/gfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vbwpEc0EeA

paerarru posted...
I wonder what Kpop looks like to someone who's not a fan
a cult

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Mezcla
08/03/22 10:23:53 PM
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paerarru posted...
I wonder what Kpop looks like to someone who's not a fan
just go to any reddit thread where a kpop star makes the front page. its just people trashing Asians, then someone comes along to say that kpop idols are all slaves and the industry is evil and all the girls are forced to get plastic surgery and if you like it, you literally support the devil, and then 1000 people agreeing with them.

then they call you a pedophile.

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paerarru
08/05/22 8:52:12 AM
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PumpkinCoach posted...
since we're kind of on a nostalgia kick, i appreciate this new group doing 2015 lovelyz/gfriend

Yeah some newer fans might not realize that this kind of concept was to 3rd gen what girl crush is to 4th. I like this one, pretty good! It's funny that there's still a little rap section lol.

a cult

Mezcla posted...
just go to any reddit thread where a kpop star makes the front page. its just people trashing Asians, then someone comes along to say that kpop idols are all slaves and the industry is evil and all the girls are forced to get plastic surgery and if you like it, you literally support the devil, and then 1000 people agreeing with them.

then they call you a pedophile.

Smh sads. Yes Kpop has its share of issues, but I'm not sure any commercial music industry nowadays is completely free of greed and corruption, and unfortunately it's always the worst cases that get the most notoriety. Also I think this attitude is likely to go on if not get worse as Kpop continues to grow (and perhaps start to gain some ground on other genres...).

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KainWind
08/05/22 10:59:51 AM
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Oh I thought it was coming out on the 8th. I have something to listen to now.

The MV is cute

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MixedRaceBaby
08/06/22 11:29:54 PM
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https://youtu.be/FfxC1EmEob4?list=RDC3Vj6VSpM6U

i still remember the day she announced she was leaving WG and fucking off to Haiti with her boyfriend/husband/babydaddy. i was a mess.

part of me is still uh.. upset? lol i dunno how to describe it, about that

but on the other hand, she is P H E N O M E N A L

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paerarru
08/08/22 12:52:24 PM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...


i still remember the day she announced she was leaving WG and fucking off to Haiti with her boyfriend/husband/babydaddy. i was a mess.

part of me is still uh.. upset? lol i dunno how to describe it, about that

but on the other hand, she is P H E N O M E N A L

Wow I think this was even more unlikely than an SNSD comeback, just for one person. Looks like she was in a show recently with other literally mama idols lol. Somebody might have mentioned it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8ZIKmYjk8

I guess this show was the taste she needed to make her decide to come back? Anyways yeah pretty good, she still got it!

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PumpkinCoach
08/09/22 8:21:48 PM
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PumpkinCoach posted...
since we're kind of on a nostalgia kick, i appreciate this new group doing 2015 lovelyz/gfriend

literally this time

https://youtu.be/1yH-zccQZvw


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paerarru
08/09/22 10:19:18 PM
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PumpkinCoach posted...
literally this time

You called it lol! They were like "might as well".

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MedeaLysistrata
08/10/22 7:05:48 PM
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I like the new TWICE album a lot gonna put it on after this

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MixedRaceBaby
08/10/22 11:49:35 PM
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paerarru posted...


I guess this show was the taste she needed to make her decide to come back?
lol oh yeah.

i remember she announced a comeback a couple years ago but then she got pregnant again
oops.

but it worked out i guess lol.

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MixedRaceBaby
08/11/22 12:01:32 AM
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I think i like new jeans guys

https://www.last.fm/user/DonLorenzo7/library/tracks?from=2021-08-10&to=2022-08-10

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KaZooo
08/11/22 12:29:30 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
I think i like new jeans guys

https://www.last.fm/user/DonLorenzo7/library/tracks?from=2021-08-10&to=2022-08-10
yeah stuff slaps. Only off thing is a 14 year old running those lyrics/concepts, but they generally have a really good sound that I hope translates live. The choreography is practical and creative.

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paerarru
08/11/22 4:14:50 PM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
I think i like new jeans guys

Why not lol, you like Kpop, nothing wrong with that.

KaZooo posted...
yeah stuff slaps. Only off thing is a 14 year old running those lyrics/concepts, but they generally have a really good sound that I hope translates live. The choreography is practical and creative.

Shrug. Same old issue. Hyein wouldn't be the first 14 year old I become a fan of, but yeah companies really should think twice before debuting middle schoolers. I mean maybe with a cute, more innocent concept, but really either way... just, why? It just creates too many issues. For one thing it puts the fans in an awkward situation. Again, try not to go overboard with the criticism. It's one thing to point it out, that's legit, but then some people take it a little too far, and again likely some of them might just be bad actors. Here's this for example... and maybe you don't really wanna click on it, sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B389yR2bxOo

Sigh. Is it just me or some people think the worst. Maybe I'm just too naive but to me cookie just means like a kiss, you know like code for the girl's love. Anyways I'm sure you guys don't need to hear a whole rant about it. Why do people have to think the worst? Am I too positive?

ANYWAYS, yeah their music's really good, for sure a different, more natural sound, which really compounds with their aesthetics. Performance wise their inexperience still shows a lot sometimes I think but definitely looking forward to them in the future. My preference:

(Hurt >) Attention > Hype Boy > Cookie (although I think it's a really fun, cute song, would have made a perfectly good sole title)

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KaZooo
08/13/22 2:14:09 AM
#30:


in case you were looking for wet Chung Ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_F6RlM_D4

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paerarru
08/13/22 11:51:03 AM
#31:


KaZooo posted...
in case you were looking for wet Chung Ha

Thank you, I think that's just what I needed. I'm so freaking upset about the cookie situation, you have no idea, this is JUST the kind of stuff that riles me up... but I'll spare you guys.

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PumpkinCoach
08/13/22 5:06:09 PM
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ehhh some of the newjeans stuff is a pretty fucking loud dog whistle and that hurt mv in particular is creepy as shit. you combine that with min heejin's history and her decor and i get people being leary. like, maybe there's extra discourse on this because people who are desensitized to the industry standard level of sexualization of minors aren't used to it being this aestheticized? not that the former gets a pass ofc.

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Mezcla
08/15/22 12:40:36 AM
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paerarru posted...
Thank you, I think that's just what I needed. I'm so freaking upset about the cookie situation, you have no idea, this is JUST the kind of stuff that riles me up... but I'll spare you guys.
yall see the Bibi one. i dont even think i can even post that one here <_<

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KainWind
08/15/22 11:57:03 AM
#34:


Oh right I saw Loona the other day. No Chuu, and Choerry was only around at the beginning but it was very fun. And no one made Kim Lip cry.

Mezcla posted...
yall see the Bibi one. i dont even think i can even post that one here <_<

Bibi gives me life. Maybe an album next month!

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Memorial_Bench
08/18/22 7:16:48 AM
#35:


KaZooo posted...
in case you were looking for wet Chung Ha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_F6RlM_D4

lol

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Mezcla
08/18/22 9:44:24 AM
#36:


wow

kpop Reddit really fucking new jeans. Theyre charting so the discourse usually is they shouldnt be charting because they shouldnt exist!!! No minors in K-pop! Shut up about boa and Taemin and iu I dont care!!! Their designer is a pedophile! I know it because they mentioned brook shields that one time!

they said fuck dem kids

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KaZooo
08/18/22 10:04:08 AM
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I am against sexual exploitation, but so far, at least in the current products out, I don't see anything out-of-line. 'Cookie' is probably the only eyebrow raiser. They are starting young but the logic I see is both them are possibly gaining off a head start.

But then again a lot of this audience is probably coming from a more conservative background. Sometimes people prematurely calling foul are the ones who are more prone to get swayed into that they condemn. Like, they're the ones seeing Hyerin some type of way.

I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in just seeing the draw of the group in their performances. They do come with a sound and concept that is so far coming off as their own in a typically repetitive industry where many try to just one up each other. Hopefully all this noise doesn't ruin the group. Hope I also don't hear of an actual development of sexual exploitation.


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Mezcla
08/18/22 11:05:39 AM
#38:


yup

and cookies not even all that bad. no its not a metaphor for vagina. shut up. your sick mind did that.

Twice had a whole mini album called Taste of Love. they weren't talking about their vagoos!

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Mezcla
08/18/22 11:08:55 PM
#39:


is blackpink having a comeback or something

what year is it 2050

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KaZooo
08/18/22 11:30:15 PM
#40:


Mezcla posted...
is blackpink having a comeback or something

what year is it 2050

The cycle continues:
I'll give it a look
Get disappointed
They'll keep racking up the popularity
and then it'll get quiet for another few years
And then somehow Jisoo becomes my girlfriend.

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Mezcla
08/18/22 11:51:41 PM
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Jisoo is amazing.

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Mezcla
08/19/22 12:05:28 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQlMMD8auMs

so yeah i mean i like it.

Jisoo is simply amazing.
Lisa looks amazing and continues to slay
Rose has white hair.
Jennie was there.

all in all, solid bp song.

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KaZooo
08/19/22 12:09:30 AM
#43:


I guess that was cool.
Lisa favorite girl there.

Gripe is how played out the wannabe tough/flex/trash talk schtick is. We can live with the Teddy rehashes if like half their songs weren't conceptually redundant on top of that. This single would rub off better if it wasn't for what it was following up.

Of course this is a "pre-release", which I don't really give much towards context.

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Mezcla
08/19/22 12:13:22 AM
#44:


anyway

time to cleanse my ears

Taengoo take me awaaaay
https://youtu.be/EaIb4RzAvEI?t=1

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Mezcla
08/19/22 8:12:12 AM
#45:


HOLD UP

STOP EVERYTHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Haufh4Uw0c4

ITS HERE!

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Mezcla
08/19/22 8:20:24 AM
#46:


Mezcla posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQlMMD8auMs
Also Jisoo in those shorts got me like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lPwKDwVCYo

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KaZooo
08/19/22 12:13:47 PM
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I guess in a weird way, after thinking about it.

I like Blackpink, with how successful of a brand they made for themselves. I mean really, look how far above they stand in commercial success over other female groups globally. How much attention each of them draw at fashion shows and such, and they're not even supposed to be the mean feature to those events.

It's just that I don't like their music. Apart from the fact their are committing to a concert tour. I feel like that's just their marketing duty but not exactly their primary operation.

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KaZooo
08/19/22 10:35:56 PM
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Been a fan of the execution here. Video and the composition revised in Japanese at that. Simple, objectively pretty without any suggestive undertones like some people want to cry wolf about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L7eMf6Yf84

And then Ive I'm looking out to see if they can put out a more substantial single. Everything so far has come off like a quick-grab, short-sighted, immediate returns type of thing. They don't sound bad, but I don't think any of their tracks thus far will be sticking long term. This one already sounds like it's going to have the same thing going for it, especially leaning on a retro sample.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uu_pkaUm4c


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PumpkinCoach
08/20/22 1:28:14 AM
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Mezcla posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQlMMD8auMs
lovesick girls was great so i hope it means they got this rehash out of their system with the pre-release and the actual title track is better.

KaZooo posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L7eMf6Yf84
hey, that does look less like they broke rotta out of jail to film an mv this time.

KaZooo posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uu_pkaUm4c
love dive is a fucking banger, but tbh i think that had little to do with ive and maybe i need an EP at least to get a grasp on the group or be curious about them in any way.

though i'll take another banger too ofc.

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paerarru
08/20/22 10:17:22 PM
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Smh I'm done arguing. People can hallucinate whatever they want. I will say this for the record: with this standard there's no solution but a hard line ban on minors (and good luck with that!). I know it means making a lot of talented kids wait, but look at what happens. There are minors in Kpop and there's... Kpop in Kpop. People think it's such a no brainer to keep the two apart. Well no, not with such a standard. There's no winning this one. Can't have your cake and eat it, too. Call it what you want, it's a ridiculous situation. I'm not even making a judgment here, good or bad: it is what it is.

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