Poll of the Day > Another major flaw in anti abortion laws.

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mharbenedict34
07/16/22 10:19:58 AM
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Even if you consider a fetus a baby but provide a rape exception that would increase the number of false rape accusations from a minuscule number to a worrying one.

i mean it is best for society to encourage safe sex if you are going to have it and prevent dangerous coat hanger abortions/ children being born who are not wanted and cast away to be a burden on the tax payer.

plus if you are a Christian and believe in fetuses having souls for whatever reason just think of Jesus getting more homies as they couldnt possibly sin from within a flesh prison and no ability to think or articulate thoughts.
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Lokarin
07/16/22 10:51:21 AM
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I hope they invent artificial wombs or incubators so that the rightoids have to make a choice between being pro-life or anti-girl

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/16/22 11:22:10 AM
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mharbenedict34 posted...


plus if you are a Christian and believe in fetuses having souls for whatever reason just think of Jesus getting more homies as they couldnt possibly sin from within a flesh prison and no ability to think or articulate thoughts.

Should not be an issue in the first place. Originally unbaptised babies went to Limbo, but recently the opinion shifted to them going straight to heaven.No need to even worry about sin.

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/16/22 11:22:57 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I hope they invent artificial wombs or incubators so that the rightoids have to make a choice between being pro-life or anti-girl

That is already what it is. Both monikers are inadequate, but create a nice vs mentality.

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Conner4REAL
07/16/22 12:05:38 PM
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Wait until there is a challenge to a states abortion laws based on religious freedom.

the concept of ensoulment is a Christian one.

islamic and Jewish mythology have a different take and requirement than Christian mythology.

and when those challenges are successful it will be a joke how many exemptions will be based on the first amendment.

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adjl
07/16/22 1:48:17 PM
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Conner4REAL posted...
Wait until there is a challenge to a states abortion laws based on religious freedom.

the concept of ensoulment is a Christian one.

islamic and Jewish mythology have a different take and requirement than Christian mythology.

and when those challenges are successful it will be a joke how many exemptions will be based on the first amendment.

You're assuming the Supreme Court is following any sort of logic and not just construing the available information however they can to suit their agenda. "Basing the law on Christian values violates the separation of church and state" means pretty much nothing to them.

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BlackScythe0
07/16/22 4:13:20 PM
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The current fake court has absolutely zero concern for reality, logic, or the constitution.
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lihlih
07/16/22 4:34:42 PM
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Don't forget that the rape kits are incredibly inaccurate.

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ZangsBeard
07/16/22 4:35:46 PM
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mharbenedict34 posted...
Even if you consider a fetus a baby but provide a rape exception that would increase the number of false rape accusations from a minuscule number to a worrying one.

That's literally the same bullshit arguments GOP fucks use to not put the exceptions in there.

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adjl
07/16/22 4:38:50 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
The current fake court has absolutely zero concern for reality, logic, or the constitution.

Indeed. Clever "gotcha!" ideas or roundabout interpretations of poorly-conceived laws aren't going to result in anyone saying "I guess you're right, better change my mind." This is an arbitrary decision, wilfully disregarding whatever negative consequences will happen as a result of it. Arbitrary decisions, by their nature, can't be swayed by reason.

That's why this whole situation is so terrible. It's much, much bigger than abortion rights (which are a significant deal in their own right). It's the Supreme Court ignoring the will of the people and any sort of objective metrics or reasoning to push the agenda they feel like pushing, and there is literally no way to stop them without killing enough judges to swing the vote. This is a terrible precedent to set, one which cleverness and appeals to reason cannot stop.

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Gaawa_chan
07/16/22 6:30:43 PM
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It will give rapists a new line of attack against their victims in court. "She's just claiming it was rape so she can get an abortion."

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mharbenedict34
07/16/22 7:12:33 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
It will give rapists a new line of attack against their victims in court. "She's just claiming it was rape so she can get an abortion."
That too, I much evil stemming from denying a human being basic rights.
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