Poll of the Day > Elon Musk's father has had two children with his own stepdaughter.

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JigsawTDCII
07/15/22 10:23:10 AM
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That means the two children they have together are both siblings and nieces/nephews to the stepdaughters two siblings from Musk.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-dad-has-secret-second-child-1383353/
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 10:32:42 AM
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Still step-relationships at best.

Only wrong if he actually raised his stepdaughter before becoming intimate with her.

Americans put too much value on step relationships as actual familial relationships.

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Jen0125
07/15/22 10:34:07 AM
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Groomed her since she was 4.

Sickening.
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Jen0125
07/15/22 10:34:30 AM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Still step-relationships at best.

Only wrong if he actually raised his stepdaughter before becoming intimate with her.

Americans put too much value on step relationships as actual familial relationships.

He raised her since she was 4. Or was involved in a fatherly role since she was 4.
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 10:36:18 AM
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Then he basically groomed his own daughter yes.

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Jen0125
07/15/22 10:37:25 AM
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Yeah it's really fucking gross.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/1/AAAgaZAADdJJ.jpg
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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 10:42:11 AM
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Is that what money gets you in the US? Guardian and child sex is explicitly forbidden, because one is considered to have absolute power over the other, even as adults.

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JigsawTDCII
07/15/22 10:46:22 AM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Still step-relationships at best.

Two of this stepdaughters siblings would be half-siblings to Musks children with her (as Musk has two children with her mother), as well as full niece/nephew (since we dont use half-relationships with those relationships). Nothing step about those relationships.

And yes, Musk has raised her since she was four.
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Sarcasthma
07/15/22 10:46:32 AM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Is that what money gets you in the US? Guardian and child sex is explicitly forbidden, because one is considered to have absolute power over the other, even as adults.
The US? Don't they live in South Africa?

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Jen0125
07/15/22 10:46:44 AM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Is that what money gets you in the US? Guardian and child sex is explicitly forbidden, because one is considered to have absolute power over the other, even as adults.

Yes. Money can get you literally anything in the US.

These people are from South Africa tho

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adjl
07/15/22 12:23:26 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Groomed her since she was 4.

Sickening.

Yeah, as much as I think there's more opposition than there really needs to be to relationships between step-relatives who met as adults (or near-adults), that kind of age gap and power dynamic is 100% no bueno.

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VampireCoyote
07/15/22 1:03:00 PM
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that family is so gross

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faramir77
07/15/22 1:31:46 PM
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That's an extreme form of grooming. He should be in prison for that.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 3:00:16 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Then he basically groomed his own daughter yes.

Why the *fuck* did you even remotely try to justify their relationship?

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 3:19:47 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Why the *fuck* did you even remotely try to justify their relationship?

Did I? I made some more generic statements in the hope someone could give some details.

Since I did not have the full picture and was not going to 100% condemn something before having that fuller picture.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 3:31:14 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Did I?

Good lord...

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TheSlinja
07/15/22 3:49:03 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Good lord...
are you just not reading anything he posted?
even in the original post he said if it was a grooming situation it was fucked up
stop being fake mad dude plenty to ne actually upset about

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DrPrimemaster
07/15/22 3:52:15 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Good lord...

Say Im 20 and marry a 40 year old for whatever reason. That 40 year old has a 20 year old that is technically my step daughter. I end up divorcing the 40 year old and marrying my step daughter. That could have been what happened.

Now it absolutely wasnt, and its more likely to be like this topic. But lets not be daft and act like there wasnt a scenario where it was ok.

Or that Night was even trying to justify or defend either way. Literally stated his condemnent in his originsl post.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 3:56:08 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
That could have been what happened.

It wasn't. Yikes.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 3:56:36 PM
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The amount of people willing to come in and defend someone who started questioning an obvious groomer is fucking skeevy.

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Nichtcrawler-X
07/15/22 4:02:05 PM
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Asking questions is never inherently wrong.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 4:02:39 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Asking questions is never inherently wrong.

Literally the motto of Faux News. Yikes.

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DrPrimemaster
07/15/22 4:04:20 PM
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Oh, is ZangsBeard a new joke poster?

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 4:05:19 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
Oh, is ZangsBeard a new joke poster?

Not questioning a sick groomer: joke posting.

Extra yike.

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adjl
07/15/22 4:09:23 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Why the *fuck* did you even remotely try to justify their relationship?

He didn't. He said "that's not a bad thing unless he actually raised her, and if he did, then it's bad." And then when it turned out he did raise her, he agreed that it was bad. He basically just said the same thing that I did, which is that the taboo around relationships between consenting adults that happen to be step-relatives is unnecessary, but that that doesn't extend to cases where grooming or other things that interfere with the "consenting adults" thing come into play.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/15/22 4:12:18 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...


Why the *fuck* did you even remotely try to justify their relationship?


he didn't click the link, and just asked if he raised her or not

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 4:25:56 PM
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Adjl up in this bitch thinking word count matters.

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TheSlinja
07/15/22 4:36:58 PM
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yeah why would word count matter when you dont read anything anyways

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jsb0714
07/15/22 4:41:03 PM
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Nichtcrawler-X posted...
Americans put too much value on step relationships as actual familial relationships.

This is what you take from this?
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Sarcasthma
07/15/22 5:49:01 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
yeah why would word count matter when you dont read anything anyways


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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 5:58:15 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...

Awww they thought that was some sort of gotcha while running face first into the point.

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Dark_SilverX
07/15/22 5:59:44 PM
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If it were his biological daughter then this would be disturbing.
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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 6:02:01 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
If it were his biological daughter then this would be disturbing.

You dont think raising someone from 4 years old and then having a child with them is disturbing? Tagged.

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Dark_SilverX
07/15/22 6:18:37 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
You dont think raising someone from 4 years old and then having a child with them is disturbing? Tagged.
You should show that outrage to those groomer teachers in the schools.
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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 6:19:35 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
You should show that outrage to those groomer teachers in the schools.

Cite some examples, and fucking yikes. You think a whataboutism is a valid response. Gross.

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Dark_SilverX
07/15/22 6:21:04 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Cite some examples, and fucking yikes. You think a whataboutism is a valid response. Gross.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 6:21:39 PM
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Well, your tag is well deserved. And youre not even willing to show your claims.

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VampireCoyote
07/15/22 6:41:39 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
If it were his biological daughter then this would be disturbing.

holy shit creepiest take in the topic

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Dark_SilverX
07/15/22 6:50:44 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
holy shit creepiest take in the topic
She's a grown woman and having his baby. Don't be jealous.
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Sarcasthma
07/15/22 7:10:14 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...

Yeesh

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Jen0125
07/15/22 7:13:16 PM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Yeesh

Yeah wtf
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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 7:19:45 PM
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The guy is literally, unequivocally defending literal child grooming.

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ZangsBeard
07/15/22 7:42:15 PM
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Its almost like if the guy could have shown some evidence of his claim of grooming in schools he might not be suspended now. But thats what happens to people who defend actual grooming.

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Lokarin
07/15/22 8:42:58 PM
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Why is it these so called "heroes of freespech/libertarianism/american way" like Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson all turn out to be scumbags as soon as you even remotely scratch the surface?

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Jen0125
07/15/22 9:04:25 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why is it these so called "heroes of freespech/libertarianism/american way" like Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson all turn out to be scumbags as soon as you even remotely scratch the surface?

Because their beliefs are trash and they are trash
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JigsawTDCII
07/15/22 10:03:11 PM
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I guess incest is the new hot thing for celebrities and the rich and powerful. Its just been revealed that 50-year-old Ricky Martin was in 7 month long relationship with his 21-year-old nephew:

https://consequence.net/2022/07/ricky-martin-accuser-nephew/?fs=e&s=cl

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Cacciato
07/15/22 10:31:04 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
yeah why would word count matter when you dont read anything anyways
Lmao
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BlackScythe0
07/15/22 10:49:11 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Why is it these so called "heroes of freespech/libertarianism/american way" like Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson all turn out to be scumbags as soon as you even remotely scratch the surface?

Because they don't actually like those things, they just use them as buzz words. Free speech is just a buzz word for "let me be a bigot". Libertarianism is a buzz word for "I want to be more free than others" and I don't even know what they mean when they claim to love america when they hate the constitution and every thing this nation stands for.
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adjl
07/15/22 11:01:25 PM
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There's a part of me that's curious about the actual content of all those nuked posts, but by the context, I can guess roughly how abhorrent they are and I'm comfortable assuming that my life is better for not having them in it.

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