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Lord_Shadow
06/22/22 4:05:05 PM
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Clearly they don't care about the health of the child

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garan
06/22/22 4:56:03 PM
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As someone who unfortunately grew up with smoker parents, I thoroughly agree. Fucking assholes.
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mustachedmystic
06/22/22 4:58:46 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kowUpdwOVHI

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/22 4:58:52 PM
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Smoking hot take
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pogo_rabid
06/22/22 4:59:09 PM
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Quitting smoking is easy. I did it cold turkey after smoking, then vaping for almost 8 years. (half pack a day/one blu vape cart a day)

Anyone who claims it's anything more than a mild inconvenience is either full of shit, or has the willpower of a small child.

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/22 5:00:21 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Quitting smoking is easy. I did it cold turkey after smoking, then vaping for almost 8 years. (half pack a day/one blu vape cart a day)

Anyone who claims it's anything more than a mild inconvenience is either full of shit, or has the willpower of a small child.
What a silly thing to say
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MC_BatCommander
06/22/22 5:00:25 PM
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People who are Big Smoke shouldn't be allowed to raise kids

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mustachedmystic
06/22/22 5:05:09 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Quitting smoking is easy. I did it cold turkey after smoking, then vaping for almost 8 years. (half pack a day/one blu vape cart a day)

Anyone who claims it's anything more than a mild inconvenience is either full of shit, or has the willpower of a small child.
What a steaming pile of BS! Ill tell you what, it really helps to have motivation. I finally quit when I was diagnosed with heart disease. To be fair though I had cut down to 2 cigs. a day a couple of years before.

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R1masher
06/22/22 5:06:53 PM
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Yeah, weed is bad dont know why the legalized it

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/22 5:07:51 PM
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R1masher posted...
Yeah, weed is bad dont know why the legalized it
Daddy government please decide whats good for me and dont let me do anything bad thank you daddy government you always have my best interests in mind
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Swagger_Dagger
06/22/22 5:08:38 PM
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Shut up incel.

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ultimate reaver
06/22/22 5:08:53 PM
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People who Reptile shouldn't be allowed to raise kids

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pogo_rabid
06/22/22 5:09:56 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
What a steaming pile of BS! Ill tell you what, it really helps to have motivation. I finally quit when I was diagnosed with heart disease. To be fair though I had cut down to 2 cigs. a day a couple of years before.
My motivation was, I loaded up a fresh cartridge at 9pm one night while on my computer, noticed it was my last one and said to myself..."fuck this, it's too expensive".

I put the vape down, and just didn't touch it again. There were cravings the first couple of days that were easy to ignore, after that it was smooth sailing.

EDIT:
This was after smoking for over half a decade, then replacing it with vaping for another few years, which make indulging in nicotine much eaiser/made it more of a habit.

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HovaRex
06/22/22 5:11:28 PM
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What if we just smoke fool's like you on the bball court?

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DrizztLink
06/22/22 5:13:36 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
My motivation was, I loaded up a fresh cartridge at 9pm one night while on my computer, noticed it was my last one and said to myself..."fuck this, it's too expensive".

I put the vape down, and just didn't touch it again. There were cravings the first couple of days that were easy to ignore, after that it was smooth sailing.

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This was after smoking for over half a decade, then replacing it with vaping for another few years, which make indulging in nicotine much eaiser/made it more of a habit.
Your individual anecdotal experience does not encompass the entire field of addiction, and acting like it does makes you look like both a moron and a jackass.

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A_Good_Boy
06/22/22 5:14:15 PM
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So what happens to the smoker's kids then?

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thronedfire2
06/22/22 5:16:02 PM
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People who vote Republican shouldnt be allowed to have children because clearly they dont care about children or the future

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armandro
06/22/22 5:18:47 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Clearly they don't care about the health of the child
Probably people who do drugs more than 4 times a month.

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DipDipDiver
06/22/22 5:21:06 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
So what happens to the smoker's kids then?
I don't think TC considered it tbh
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Irony
06/22/22 5:22:13 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
So what happens to the smoker's kids then?
They go to a nonabusive home

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ArchNemo
06/22/22 5:24:05 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Quitting smoking is easy. I did it cold turkey after smoking, then vaping for almost 8 years. (half pack a day/one blu vape cart a day)

Anyone who claims it's anything more than a mild inconvenience is either full of shit, or has the willpower of a small child.


I agree, and I think a lot of the problem is how common the idea that quitting smoking is the most difficult thing in the world is. It makes people go into it with the idea that it's going to be far more difficult than it is, and gives them an out for giving up because "It's really difficult to quit, you know."

When I quit it was "Man, this really fucking sucks" for about a week. Haven't smoked since.

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ArchNemo
06/22/22 5:29:19 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Your individual anecdotal experience does not encompass the entire field of addiction, and acting like it does makes you look like both a moron and a jackass.


I mean, the one thing everyone "knows" about smoking is how difficult it is to quit, right?

You don't think constantly beating the idea into people that smoking is so insanely hard to quit makes it artificially harder to quit than it actually is?

I mean, I've heard smokers parrot the line that smoking is harder to quit than heroin. You ever see someone smash a car window or mug someone for a cigarette fix?

The whole idea of making people believe smoking is so hard to quit is to stop people from trying.

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Guide
06/22/22 5:30:15 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Anyone who claims it's anything more than a mild inconvenience is either full of shit, or has the willpower of a small child.

Genetics and mental disorders play a strong role in the broad category of willpower. What you're saying is a lot like telling someone with depression to cheer up or get over it.

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Guide
06/22/22 5:32:10 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
I mean, the one thing everyone "knows" about smoking is how difficult it is to quit, right?

You don't think constantly beating the idea into people that smoking is so insanely hard to quit makes it artificially harder to quit than it actually is?

I mean, I've heard smokers parrot the line that smoking is harder to quit than heroin. You ever see someone smash a car window or mug someone for a cigarette fix?

The whole idea of making people believe smoking is so hard to quit is to stop people from trying.

Or the effects of nicotine are understood, and you're exchanging the chicken with the egg because you don't bother with a 5 minute google search to figure things out.

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WaterLink
06/22/22 5:33:10 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
You ever see someone smash a car window or mug someone for a cigarette fix?

I've seen fights break out over them, as well as seeing people mining public ashtrays for cig butts with some left. So...yeah

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ArchNemo
06/22/22 5:40:05 PM
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Guide posted...
Or the effects of nicotine are understood, and you're exchanging the chicken with the egg because you don't bother with a 5 minute google search to figure things out.

I never said nicotine isn't addictive or causes dependency. But that smacking people in the face with the idea that quitting smoking is one of the most difficult things you'll ever do in life doesn't help things.

Yeah, it sucks, you'll get withdrawal symptoms, but it's not that as bad as people would have you believe.

Like I said, nobody's ever been murdered to fill a nicotine fix.

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thronedfire2
06/22/22 5:41:31 PM
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Guide posted...
Genetics and mental disorders play a strong role in the broad category of willpower. What you're saying is a lot like telling someone with depression to cheer up or get over it.

not really. all you have to do is go a week or two without smoking and you can, indeed, get over it. that's not the case with depression

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Guide
06/22/22 5:44:53 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
not really. all you have to do is go a week or two without smoking and you can, indeed, get over it. that's not the case with depression

Yes, they're not the exact same thing. That's why I specified a thing that is similar, framed as a simile. Also you're seriously saying ""all you have to do is the thing that's really hard for you to do"

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pogo_rabid
06/22/22 5:46:46 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Your individual anecdotal experience does not encompass the entire field of addiction, and acting like it does makes you look like both a moron and a jackass.

Handwaving away anything that contradicts your narrative is LOW T and cringe.

It could be that I just rock, but i'm not a narcissist. So the only reasonable explanation is that people who can't quit just have zero willpower, and they suck LOL.

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/22 5:52:39 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Handwaving away anything that contradicts your narrative is LOW T and cringe.

It could be that I just rock, but i'm not a narcissist. So the only reasonable explanation is that people who can't quit just have zero willpower, and they suck LOL.
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thronedfire2
06/22/22 5:53:02 PM
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Guide posted...
Yes, they're not the exact same thing. That's why I specified a thing that is similar, framed as a simile. Also you're seriously saying ""all you have to do is the thing that's really hard for you to do"

just "getting over" depression is impossible, not 'really hard'. it's a significant difference in this comparison

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ArchNemo
06/22/22 5:54:40 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Handwaving away anything that contradicts your narrative is LOW T and cringe.

It could be that I just rock, but i'm not a narcissist. So the only reasonable explanation is that people who can't quit just have zero willpower, and they suck LOL.


...Alright, well, this guy is kind of an ass.

But it doesn't change the fact that pounding into someone's head constantly that something is going to be difficult is going to make them approach it with a much worse attitude than if you said "Yeah, its an inconvenience, but it's hardly the worst thing you'll ever have to endure"

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Funkydog
06/22/22 6:01:18 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
So what happens to the smoker's kids then?
The children were later destroyed.

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Naysaspace
06/22/22 6:01:37 PM
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imagine being so bothered by a smell that you want to punish those by, in effect, castrating them.

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Xethuminra
06/22/22 6:02:28 PM
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People who Snoke shouldn't have kids
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divot1338
06/22/22 6:05:39 PM
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A persons phone screen tells you everything you need to know.

If you cant keep your phone safe

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CE_gonna_CE
06/22/22 6:11:36 PM
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Welp, I never would have been born then

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