Board 8 > 90s nickelodeon mafia topic 2 Slime everywhere

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BlueCrystalTear posted...

He's the one with the massive scumslip a few games back, yeah?

Ihate being reminded of this

Dark Young Link posted...

##Vote: Ulti

Okay what the fuck was that Han lynch? Dude went from 0 votes all game to THAT!?

Everyone needs to explain that bullshit now.

And i really didnt like this reaction post. Reads like a generic scum reaction.

DYL, I know you weren't there at the end of day - but when you were reading up who would you have leaned toward voting?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I agree it's boring but it feels like all the interesting people are town in this game

I was incapable of deciding already when I unvoted.
I only had inclinations that held me back really.
The people I had ISO'd either werent there or I didn't think they looked bad enough after reading up on them.

Now I just feel like I shouldn't have unvoted, Plums power be damned.

Sbell was pretty low energy in Kingmaker Mafia I think.
Did he do the hounding Ulti bit before or after he got confirmed by scans back then?

I feel like thats not uncommon for me
I did have one scumlean, but he claimed hider.

Also I really primarily scanned Sbell as a joke because he also got scanned in the game before it. That and I feel like scumbell is a sneaky threat but townconfirmed sbell is useful.
Thank you for reminding me of what happened before that tho.

I guess what Sbell really needs is not a friend but an enemy.

I also think afk people also arent all the same.
Like red has a good reason to not be around for deadlines, as do Mzero and.... I forget who else has even worse timezones than me.

I dont know why DYL wasnt around on the other hand.

Oof I mean I'll fully admit Ulti and I fucked up big time with the last-minute Han lynch. BCT did, too, I guess, but he seemed pretty lost on what was going on and just bought in to Ulti's shenanigans. BCT was constantly vote switching at the end there.

Frankly, it should've been Plum, but it was understandable to back off of him after his claim. I don't think anyone could have predicted the EoD chaos, which was only exacerbated by Han randomly trying to push Ben's lynch out of nowhere when the clear candidates for the day were Plum and Red.

But in any case, DYL might be worth prodding. Lea, IIRC, you had your vote on Red yesterday. What do you think of him now after his responses to yesterday's events?

I'd like to go back and ISO Mzero and Chang to figure out why they might have been targeted. I'm on my phone and going out to eat right now so I'll have to continue later but here's the so far

UltimaterializerX posted...

I fully buy Lea and Ben.

MZero just claim.

MZero posted...

I don't need to

First reason Mzero might have been killed is because he soft claimed confirmable power here

And I know Ulti is technically the one who outed him here but I don't hold that against Ulti. Also Mzero very much thought Ulti was town immediately from page 1. Does Ulti murder that person?

Important to keep in mind is that Mzero is one of the night shift players and eager to engage with them.

MZero posted...

hi red

So do we think another night shift player is scum who wanted to take out someone in their timezone so they would have to engage less? Implicates Sheep, Death, or Red.

And if someone like death wants to look back at their posts for me while I'm busy feel free. I'll still look myself to see if you missed anything later. (Lea doesn't have to because I fully trust Lea already)

TidusOfTheX posted...

Ihate being reminded of this

Sorry!

htaeD posted...

I also think afk people also arent all the same.

Again, I was occupied helping my parents. They're moving in a month and having a garbage sale later in the week so I'll be helping out with that, but I'll be on around hammertime.

Kirby321 posted...

BCT was constantly vote switching at the end there.

Constantly? I was only ever on Ben and Han. YOU switched votes way more than I did.

Yeah I remember telling Chang something to that effect
Except I am pretty sure you imagined the part about 'me only being that way as town'
Doesnt mean I am always capable of making vote near endgame anyway

Also I wasnt really talking about you BCT, you were at least there for the end.

PunishedBen posted...

First reason Mzero might have been killed is because he soft claimed confirmable power here

I uh... think you're reading too into it. I interpreted it more as a "bitch plz it's only the start of Day 1 I'm not gonna claim right now just because you're asking me to for the memes"

But that night shift observation is an interesting one. I think the only one of those three who would benefit from offing MZero to limit nighttime interaction would be Red, as Death and especially Sheep tend to not lie low throughout the game.

Still, I dunno if it means much. MZero was nigh-universally considered town rather than cast aside as a PoE lynch. It's possible he was a target because of nighttime interactions, but would the rest of the Mafia team stake their win on keeping Death, Sheep, or Red hidden? I could see the potential benefit if at least two of them were scum, but just one of them? Seems like a small chance.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Constantly? I was only ever on Ben and Han. YOU switched votes way more than I did.

I mean, fair. I didn't mean it in an implicating way. I was insinuating that you were genuinely confused on what was going on and thus shouldn't be blamed for Han's lynch.

On the subject of Lea, I'm echoing the thoughts that she's Town. Last game, she was constantly giving off suspicious vibes. The only moment I had this game was the whole argument on Tidus playing video games, but that's it. The rest of her content reminds me of her strong mid-game presence last game but without any of the scum vibes. This is definitely not the same Lea we were playing with last game.

Honestly its possible that Chang leaving his vote on Plum might have influenced scums kill choice

Also I thought that was clear, Lea.
I was unwilling to vote Red because he wasn't around (and I didnt expect him to come back either).

I dont think that was me 'not minding him being absent'?

Allthough maybe you meant that I should have just risked it and voted Red.
And I guess I can agree with that now, but at the moment I was not able to reason like that.

Oh is it about the delay-scummon comment?

That was me mentioning a moment that happened earlier in day1, when Red showed up to fume at Han for something he said..(I forget what)
I called that a delayed scummon.

But all of those comments are fuel for the 'I didnt want to lynch Red' fire
That post literally shows I didnt think Red could be there, not that he didnt want to be there.

But yes neither direction gave me a great feeling. That I am not denying.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hey Kirby, youve given a lot of text but I dont see any comments about me actually voting for you. Do you have any thoughts on this? Ive proven for better or worse I can get the votes on you if I want them.

I mean, when you originally voted for me, I just assumed you were gonna justify it as "I laid out a trap and these people took the bait", which made sense to me.

... But then when you explained why you voted Han, you never mentioned at all that it was a trap or anything as such. If you weren't trying to set a highly volatile trap, what even was the point in voting Han in the first place and baiting people into starting a lynch train?

Frankly, those thoughts bothered me way more than your vote on me. But then IGCD came in the flavor confirm on you, so I just brushed off your vote as whatever rather than scum-motivated. Plum's vote on me seemed way more nonsensical, which is why I argued with him and ignored your vote.

Kirby321 posted...

I uh... think you're reading too into it. I interpreted it more as a "bitch plz it's only the start of Day 1 I'm not gonna claim right now just because you're asking me to for the memes"

Maybe it could be overlooked but he doubled down

MZero posted...

I won't be lynched today. Give it up Ulti

Combine this with the fact that he was mayor, it makes the power claim clear. And also he's mzero and i think a lot less confident he wont get lynched if he's vanilla. It was similar logic that led me to reading Sbell as vanilla in the last game when I was scum. If I was scum aiming for power I would have killed Mzero for these posts

I am absurdly tired today holy shit

Tidus, where are you currently at on the reads front? Has your list progressed from having half of the game as neutral, and where should we be looking for scum today?

I have never felt bad about Lea this game but every post of hers today has felt somewhere between solid and throwing a cake at my face with TOWN written on it in big fluorescent icing and I will be shocked if my gut is wrong here.

htaeD posted...

Sbell was pretty low energy in Kingmaker Mafia I think.
Did he do the hounding Ulti bit before or after he got confirmed by scans back then?

SBell didn't feel low energy in Kingmaker, at least to me. He spent the first two days just snapping at Han after he got tunneled, and although his energy was used pretty poorly it wasn't as absent as this game.

Also, almost every single one of Plum's posts today have been complete and utter nothing. Am I genuinely the only person who still cares about all the shite from yesterday or are we just letting him coast by forever cause he claimed a scanner? There has been one post which vaguely resembles trying to work the game out and it ended in a weird Kirby vote which my little livestock brain cannot comprehend the reasoning behind.

Lea I dont know how you can read what I said as me endorsing lynching Red

Also that's a good catch, Ben.

Part of me wants to say that's a nothing post from MZero, but I can't really see a reason for Scum killing MZero other than having a power read on him, no matter how good he looked D1.

PunishedBen posted...

Combine this with the fact that he was mayor, it makes the power claim clear. And also he's mzero and i think a lot less confident he wont get lynched if he's vanilla. It was similar logic that led me to reading Sbell as vanilla in the last game when I was scum. If I was scum aiming for power I would have killed Mzero for these posts

Okay, fair point. I guess that is a subtle softclaim rather than just MZero's moxie as a townie.

Still feels like a stretch to think they could've concluded a power role out of it, but either way, we agree that MZero was a priority target by scum. So that's not as surprising.

changmas, on the other hand, seemed like a completely random kill.

Sheep007 posted...

Also, almost every single one of Plum's posts today have been complete and utter nothing. Am I genuinely the only person who still cares about all the shite from yesterday or are we just letting him coast by forever cause he claimed a scanner? There has been one post which vaguely resembles trying to work the game out and it ended in a weird Kirby vote which my little livestock brain cannot comprehend the reasoning behind.

I don't think there are many people who would be against lynching Plum today. Letting him "confirm" another dude could be helpful, but I won't be opposed to making some caramelized plums if we've got no better leads.

I think everyone is just focused on exploring other options as a back-up to avoid the same mistake happening again of: being set on lynching somebody, suddenly something happens, everyone changes their mind, and now no one knows who to vote for and it's the end of the day.

Kirby321 posted...

I don't think there are many people who would be against lynching Plum today. Letting him "confirm" another dude could be helpful, but I won't be opposed to making some caramelized plums if we've got no better leads.

I think everyone is just focused on exploring other options as a back-up to avoid the same mistake happening again of: being set on lynching somebody, suddenly something happens, everyone changes their mind, and now no one knows who to vote for and it's the end of the day.

I agree that backups should be explored, but I'm more just hesitant to let Plum drop entirely when few people seem all that interested in him right now and he's my biggest scumread by quite a way. A fair number of other players feel off, but I will be utterly shocked if Plum doesn't flip scum, compared to just leaning scum or being unsure on others.

My current list of alternatives today is SBell, Death, BCT, Red, and DYL. I feel good about pretty much everyone else, or there's some very compelling reason to not lynch them.

I'd like to hear which of these players everyone would be most interested in going after today, because I absolutely do not think we should be lynching anyone outside of that five and Plum right now.

Sheep007 posted...

I agree that backups should be explored, but I'm more just hesitant to let Plum drop entirely when few people seem all that interested in him right now and he's my biggest scumread by quite a way. A fair number of other players feel off, but I will be utterly shocked if Plum doesn't flip scum, compared to just leaning scum or being unsure on others.

My current list of alternatives today is SBell, Death, BCT, Red, and DYL. I feel good about pretty much everyone else, or there's some very compelling reason to not lynch them.

I'd like to hear which of these players everyone would be most interested in going after today, because I absolutely do not think we should be lynching anyone outside of that five and Plum right now.

##Vote: DYL
Until he answers my question tbh

I want to know why @Tidus voted me yesterday and said that my lynch will provide the most information. i want to know what information he would have gotten out of lynching me

oops I'm sorry Mr. Other Tidus

Sheep007 posted...

I agree that backups should be explored, but I'm more just hesitant to let Plum drop entirely when few people seem all that interested in him right now and he's my biggest scumread by quite a way. A fair number of other players feel off, but I will be utterly shocked if Plum doesn't flip scum, compared to just leaning scum or being unsure on others.

My current list of alternatives today is SBell, Death, BCT, Red, and DYL. I feel good about pretty much everyone else, or there's some very compelling reason to not lynch them.

I'd like to hear which of these players everyone would be most interested in going after today, because I absolutely do not think we should be lynching anyone outside of that five and Plum right now.

Otherwise good list that I agree with only I'd remove BCT on the assumption Ulti is town

Leanansidhe posted...

"I think Red is town because he isn't here"

"Actually, he's just not here. Neutral."

Two people defended Red, and you negated that defense. You said you thought Red was sketchy for not commenting on Plum. You didn't add "but he's not here so I don't want to lynch him". The closest thing to expressing that feeling was empathizing with Kirby, but even then you said lynching claimed power felt worse than lynching someone afk.

Oh wait now I see I misread Hans statement, I thought he was saying scumred would try to miss a lynch.