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TheSultanOfSlam 06/19/22 4:24:56 PM #1: |
With 16 alive it takes a majority lynch of 9 to hammer otherwise EOD is 8PM Est Sunday June 19th. 1. IGCD 2.Plum 3. HAN 4. Sheep 5. Ulti 6. Tidus 7.kirby 8.Ben 9. BlueCrystalTear 10. Death 11.Red 12. Sbell 13.Mzero 14. Lea 15. DYL 16. Chang --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 06/19/22 4:30:17 PM #2: |
about 30 mins until i head out for father's day. ##Vote: Plum the time to change my mind is now --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 4:33:48 PM #3: |
htaeD posted... Han and Kirby are just more neutral than everyone else! I have no strong feelings about this one way or the other. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 4:34:16 PM #4: |
##Unvote ##Vote: Plum See you day 2. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:34:47 PM #5: |
Ugh Alex Mac Hider --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:35:42 PM #6: |
On my phone so copy pasting is a pain --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:37:14 PM #7: |
How do people not see sheep's actions and go "Huh, those aren't normal town actions" --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:37:55 PM #8: |
Anyways I have prepare dinner, so I'm going to have to leave it there --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:38:37 PM #9: |
Hider huh. Dont see how that was a claim worth holding back... --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:40:04 PM #10: |
htaeD posted... Hider huh. I hate claiming power --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 4:40:28 PM #11: |
Who would you hide behind tonight? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:42:58 PM #13: |
Leanansidhe posted... I guess hider can sort of prove itself eventually. I guess. Seems like it fills a similar niche to my own role, really. Not sure how balanced this game is tho. Hmmm. That thought did cross my mind. I almost want to say it makes Plum claiming it look better on him, but thats shortsighted logic.. Plus maybe Plum just has too much previousgame setup on the brain. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 4:43:03 PM #14: |
I always forget what Hider does tbh. Isn't it basically Cop that dies if it targets scum/someone who dies, or was that specifically Red's version last game? --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 4:43:40 PM #15: |
Re-posting from last topic... TidusOfTheX posted... I want to lynch Ben today, not only because he is scummy, but also because lynching him would also give us lots of info. ##Vote: Ben I love this response. I am always in favor of lynching Ben Day 1 just for the memes lmao But nah, I don't think this is the same scum Ben from last game. Could've been Chrisfear last game, but Ben struck me as more "chummy" or willing to buddy up to people rather than go on the offensive/be so assertive. He's definitely more of the latter this game. Nonetheless, I feel good about this response from Tidus. I don't know how scum Tidus plays, but I feel like throwing out an opinion like this (even if it's about Ben) is a bold move that a cautious scum wouldn't really take. IfGodCouldDie posted... I'm still not convinced that Plum is scum. I don't really agree with the attacks on them because I don't necessarily belive his behaviour is scum behaviour, it comes across more as just anti-town behaviour, and the attacks all feel cyclical on him. Its like people are using each others attacks to feel justified in their own attacks and then people are using the other attacks to justify their own attacks. Interesting observation. So if Plum flipped town, would you say any of his aggressors would be scum? If so, who would be the scummiest? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] What on Earth are you talking about? It's not difficult to Ctrl + F through Tidus's posts and see he did more than just that. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80061692/965918074 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80061692/965918129 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80061692/965918558 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80061692/965925181 Sure, it might not be a whole lot of content or huge walls or such. That's just Tidus's posting style, but it's not like he's posting fluff (though I personally think saying stuff like "I agree" isn't fluffy unless there's no supporting reasons behind it). DYL literally only had three posts by the time I voted for him (technically four, but I didn't see the fourth one while drafting my messages). Tidus may not have that many more points, but pinning it on inactivity because he wanted to play games is horrid reasoning. I hope I wouldn't have to stop playing Final Fantasy XIV just because I signed up for mafia! If you don't like his content, that's fair. But this argument of him being busy playing games is frivolous. It's grasping at straws and frankly gives me the same uneasy vibes I had about you last game on Day 1. Though I'd still like to believe your claim about (hopefully Town) Invisible being true. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:44:07 PM #16: |
Reds version was a weird one.. Or what he claimed to be was? Its a headache to even try and remember. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 4:45:16 PM #18: |
masterplum posted... Ugh Dumb Hider like Red had last time, or Hider that, when hiding behind scum, immediately dies? Because that's a very important distinction to make... One role is borderline useless, the other is mortally confirmable (I'm sorry I couldn't help it lol) --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 06/19/22 4:47:47 PM #20: |
so that makes two people claiming roles that scum can't kill at night. hmmmmmmm --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:47:58 PM #21: |
I feel like if Plum was the confirmable variant, he wouldnt sound so mellow about claiming it. But the fact that he didnt clarify must mean its the standard one... Except I dont know which one that is! --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 4:48:44 PM #23: |
Hider is an interesting role to claim if fake. Safe hides are worthless after the hider is revealed as fake. Unsafe hides can't happen. The question is whether it merits faking being RB'd, which it really should. Conversely, if real, safe hides become a lot more powerful, and if properly breadcrumbed, can be killer to Scum. Any sort of Scum misdirect role would fuck any of that up, but without that, Scum would have to pick between letting the Town member off themself or clearing Town, which is not an enviable position. It calls for RB's. Or an unblockable trying to frame whomever they are hiding behind. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 4:51:10 PM #24: |
htaeD posted... I feel like if Plum was the confirmable variant, he wouldnt sound so mellow about claiming it. IIRC from the discussion last game, standard B8 Hider is the one where the Hider dies if they target scum, regardless of whether scum actually targets the Hider or not. Red's variant from last game doesn't die immediately when hiding behind scum. Instead, if scum targets the Hider while that Hider is hiding behind scum, the Hider's redirection powers fail and the Hider gets killed instead of their target. The former has pseudo-scanner/redirection powers. The latter just has redirection, but can't redirect to scum. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 4:51:28 PM #25: |
I feel like Lea is getting Tidus whiplash but I do feel kinda okay with him, even if I think the Ben vote is nonsensical at best. I too would love to know why exactly Plum didn't take more issue with Lea's claim, considering his own. Especially if it's the version of Hider that can't be targeted at night. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:52:14 PM #26: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... Who would you hide behind tonight? Tidus currently. He is the best mixture of never getting shot and hasn't immediately made himself obvious as scum. Now I need to reconsider though [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is correct --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:54:53 PM #27: |
Okay so not the red version. You didn't think claiming a confirmable role would have been better to do before you got stuck to phoneposting? --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:55:26 PM #28: |
Sheep007 posted... I feel like Lea is getting Tidus whiplash but I do feel kinda okay with him, even if I think the Ben vote is nonsensical at best. I don't see the issue? I can't hide behind her and we know nothing about the setup. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 4:56:14 PM #29: |
They mean that it seems like now we have two similar roles. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 4:57:39 PM #31: |
htaeD posted... Okay so not the red version. Claiming power is almost always wrong unless mortally necessary. It seemed like it might not be necessary until the last two votes --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 4:59:16 PM #32: |
plum, pick a lynch between the following: Red Ulti BCT --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 06/19/22 4:59:26 PM #33: |
Hider and untargetable? I can sort of see those two roles working together in the sense that a player that can't be targeted would make hider more vulnerable to being killed. It would also cause some confusion. Hypothetically, say Lea never claimed. Plum says he's going to hide behind Lea. Next day Plum ends up dead. Lea ends up looking like scum without actually being scum. Or maybe that's metaing and I shouldn't put too much stock into that. --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 4:59:33 PM #34: |
I mean, in a vacuum, sure, they're similar in the sense that scum can't kill them. But that's where the similarities between Hider and Invisible stop. Hider just redirects (calling it "protection" is inaccurate when somebody still ends up dead regardless) and dies if they make the wrong call, whereas Invisible seemingly can't be killed at all besides through a mislynch. Tbh, I don't see the issue of those roles coexisting, either. But I do agree with Death that it's odd that Plum waited until now to claim. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 5:00:39 PM #35: |
Red couldnt target Lea last time either, so I doubt Plums role would work on Lea's role here either. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 5:01:56 PM #36: |
Dark Young Link posted... Hypothetically, say Lea never claimed. Plum says he's going to hide behind Lea. Next day Plum ends up dead. Lea ends up looking like scum without actually being scum. I mean, in an alternate timeline, that could totally be a situation that happens. That's just another point in favor of Lea's insta-claim being a pro-town move (if she's telling the truth, that is). --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 5:03:15 PM #37: |
I am getting flashbacks to both myself claiming a scanner after a horrible Scum game D1 last game and Tidus claiming a scanner after a horrible Town game D2 the game before. masterplum posted... I don't see the issue? I can't hide behind her and we know nothing about the setup.As Lea said, they seem like odd roles to have together? Both fill a niche of being roles that hamper scum's targeting ability, and that's without any dedicated protection. I kinda disagree about it being weird to wait so long before claiming? That's a pretty powerful role and I'd be hesitant to claim it too. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 5:06:58 PM #39: |
I think I was just confusing Hider with Commuter again. I do agree that I dont think the two roles clash. --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 5:07:03 PM #40: |
Kirby321 posted... Man, so this is my reputation on this board now lmao People, look at this post with me. Does it look like Kirby suggesting not to look at Plum while also saying he'll go with it? Does it feel off to the rest of you? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 06/19/22 5:07:25 PM #41: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... plum, pick a lynch between the following: Hmm BCT. Killing Ulti or Red D1 is probably wrong unless they really throw up all sorts of bad signals --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 06/19/22 5:10:03 PM #42: |
votals [5] plum - Han, Ulti, (Lea) Death,chang, Sheep [2] Ben - IGCD, (red) Tidus [1] DYL - (Ulti), MZero, (Sheep),( Kirby) [1] Sheep - plum [1]Kirby- Red [1] Red- Lea [0] MZero - (Ulti), (Ben), (plum) [0] Lea - (IGCD) Fixed --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/19/22 5:10:33 PM #43: |
The off thing about that Kirby post to me is him getting confused about the psychic comments. The overall wall also kinda has a theme of 'Eh I will do that later' --- Sword IGN: Pandora Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 5:14:45 PM #45: |
HanOfTheNekos posted... People, look at this post with me.I'm not sure I see what you do. There's a bit of hedging to it for sure, but I don't think Kirby has made a habit of being incredibly assured in his reads since joining us. also Plum's response just makes me wanna kill Red tbh --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 06/19/22 5:15:40 PM #46: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Okay, that makes a lot more sense with why people are kicking up a fuss over your role and his being strange to have in the same game. And... I have to agree. That does seem a bit strange, especially since Plum hesitate to counter your claim. This version of Hider feels a lot more like Commuter than Hider tbh. But maybe I'm just used to the only variant I saw back in my old community. Does the B8 version of Hider die if the person they hide behind bites the bullet instead? E.g., let's say Plum hides behind me. Scum target me. I'm definitely dead, but does Plum die, too? --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 06/19/22 5:15:48 PM #47: |
Tidus is also voting Ben, by the way --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/19/22 5:17:44 PM #49: |
masterplum posted... Hmm Eugh that was the Scummiest thing you could have said. ##Unvote: Plum I'm going to get to watching something here soon, so I won't be able to keep up as well, but let me give this: I have a bad feeling that someone on the Scumteam pointed to a behavior of Chris's, of asking other players through thought processes, and told them to emulate it. This is not based on any real suspicion or Hangut, it's just a bad feeling. Two, here's what I got after doing some ISO's: Reason to think Town: IGCD Lea Tidus MZero Death Leaning Town: Sheep ????: Chang SBell Ben Red DYL Leaning Scum: Ulti Kirby Scummy: Plum BCT Now, I'm good to hold back and allow BCT and DYL more time. If we had an additional day, I would absolutely gun for SBell at this point just because I don't like what he's given so far and want more, and his inability to find time to respond is sad. But on rereads, even with a slew of ????'s to look at, I didn't like how Ulti has looked this game. Go ISO him. It feels like he's hovering around saying anything that really means anything. There's bravado in his posts, but there's an element of Scumhunting that I'm just not seeing. Kirby is in a bit of a weird place as well with him touching me the wrong way as well. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 06/19/22 5:18:37 PM #50: |
well my time's up for the day. I'm honestly conflicted right now. Unlike most of you, I do take issue with Lea and plum roles coexisting. But it's a little bit concerning that we could potentially lynch what might be one of our strongest investigative roles. I don't particularly like the alternatives that have been suggested though so I think I'm just gonna keep my vote here on plum and trust that if something develops in the next couple hours that town has its head on straight and makes the right choice. Cya day 2. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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