Current Events > Father drowns 3 children; "If I can't have them neither can you"

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Shablagoo
06/16/22 6:54:52 AM
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Prosecutors revealed new details on the tragic killings of three children in Round Lake Beach this week, alleging their father drowned them before leaving a note for their mother to find.

During a bond court hearing Wednesday, prosecutors alleged 35-year-old Jason Karels drowned the children - ages 5, 3 and 2 - individually in a bathtub before leaving their bodies on a bed in the home.

Also left at the scene was a note that read "If I can't have them, neither can you," prosecutors said in court.

Karels was ordered held on a $10 million bond Wednesday morning.

"This is a devastating case for our community, and we are resolved to achieve justice for these three innocent children," Lake County States Attorney Eric Rinehart said in a statement.

Police said they were called to the residence just after 1 p.m. after the mother of the children discovered the children inside as she came to pick them up after a weekend with her estranged husband.

What they saw yesterday is something that no one should have to see, Police Chief Gilbert Rivera said.

The Lake County Coroner said the initial cause of death was ruled as drowning.

Karels had fled the scene and an alert was put out for his vehicle, authorities said.

Police ultimately found him and pursued him for nearly 20 minutes, finally capturing him after he crashed his vehicle on Interstate 80.

Officers say that Karels admitted to them that he had killed the three children, and said he had tried to take his own life.

He was taken to an area hospital after the crash, and was booked into the Lake County jail on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, a family member says that they are in shock over the deaths of the three children, identified as Bryant, Cassidy and Gideon Karels.

That family member told NBC 5 that the childrens mother dropped them off at the home for the weekend, and that she could have never imagined it would be the last time she would see them alive.

A GoFundMe page has been set up to support the mother and the extended family of the children, including raising money for funeral costs.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/father-charged-with-killing-3-children-in-round-lake-beach-left-note-for-wife-prosecutors/2858186/?amp

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TentacleDemon
06/16/22 6:56:13 AM
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Execution by fire for this guy. A small fire so it takes a long time.

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Zikten
06/16/22 6:56:35 AM
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There is nothing more evil than a parent that kills their children
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SergeantGander
06/16/22 6:58:35 AM
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Killing your child is unfathomable.

But doing it with your bare hands, not once but 3 times? There aren't words to describe that...

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/16/22 6:58:51 AM
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Zikten posted...
There is nothing more evil than a parent that kills their children
Yup. And the poor mother will blame herself for the rest of her life.

Lets hope this guy is never allowed to leave his cell for the rest of his life.

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ThePieReborn
06/16/22 7:00:00 AM
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This is always a thought lurking in the back of my mind when one party gets the short end of the stick (deservedly or not) in divorce/custody proceedings.

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DespondentDeity
06/16/22 7:01:49 AM
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Give him the g-pop death penalty.

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Lokison
06/16/22 7:03:39 AM
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Should bury him from the neck down in cement and leave him.

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NeonOctopus
06/16/22 7:19:44 AM
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Wow, that is unbelievably tragic. What the fuck

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Umbreon
06/16/22 7:24:50 AM
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There's nothing you could do to this guy that would count as 'too cruel'. How can you even think of killing your own children like that?

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g0ldie
06/16/22 7:54:06 AM
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this guy's such a piece of shit.

unfortunately, you don't always know how terrible a person can be, but you at least expect someone to try for their kids, and something like this happens.

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Solid Sonic
06/16/22 7:55:36 AM
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I feel like this is the root of a lot of lash-outs against everything.

Make as many people as miserable as possible on your way down

Personally I'm trying to become numb to the extreme depravity of humanity. Be nonplussed at how ungodly evil people can be.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
06/16/22 8:03:09 AM
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This piece of shit obviously didn't view his kids as individual human lives. They were just items to be used to hurt his ex.
I hope horrific things happen to him in prison

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Umbreon
06/16/22 8:08:55 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
This piece of shit obviously didn't view his kids as individual human lives. They were just items to be used


A lot of 'parents' think this way sadly. Most, at least, avoid taking it to this monster's level though.

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DoctorPiranha3
06/16/22 8:16:00 AM
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Why do humans exist
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Trumble
06/16/22 8:24:51 AM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Why do humans exist
Because other, older humans won't stop fucking.

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Solid Sonic
06/16/22 8:29:01 AM
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I wish I had the fortitude of a homicide detective. People dying unjustly and horrifically is just a day at the office. Sometimes you can be surprised but at the end of the day it's still a case that needs solving.

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Punished_Blinx
06/16/22 8:29:32 AM
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Stories like this are so damn heartbreaking. How can people be so evil.

ThePieReborn posted...
This is always a thought lurking in the back of my mind when one party gets the short end of the stick (deservedly or not) in divorce/custody proceedings.

I think that's true to an extent but still in a sociopathic way. These guys don't give a shit about their own children. They care that something was taken away from them. Now they want to do the same.

I can't remember where I read or heard it but something as minor as changing the babies diapers alone means the father is less likely to kill their kids. These guys are just outright pieces of shit.

This case reminds me of that one in Australia where the guy drove his car into the dam with his kids strapped into the back. He got out the car and they drowned. He then specifically went to his ex-wifes house so he could tell her the news to her face. Despite this she believed it was an accident for years. It didn't hit her until she realised he never replied to her letters or bothered to talk to her when he ended up in prison.

These stories are just so fucked up.

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Solid Sonic
06/16/22 8:31:27 AM
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One time I posted a story on CE where a mother in I think Africa who had to watch her adult children get raped died of a stress-induced heart attack.

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Kloe_Rinz
06/16/22 8:35:49 AM
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he isnt even human. if nobody will agree to execution, then solitary confinement in a straight jacket until the day they die of natural causes in their cell
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Stalinrules
06/16/22 8:37:40 AM
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Put the fucker in gen pop and walk away.


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31Veteran
06/16/22 9:07:30 AM
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I genuinely can't image how anyone would do this. If I lost custody of my kids I'd hope for the best for them, not try to fucking kill them. That reaction is just completely alien to me, it may as well be from another universe.

Try to regain custody in court like a rational person, I'd even have more sympathy for a father who abducted them in order to raise them himself because he couldn't bear to be parted despite also not condoning that crime.

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ktownslayer16
06/16/22 9:09:39 AM
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As someone mentioned, to do this not once but 3 times in a row shows this guy was a complete psychopath.

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Nu_Jersey_Devil
06/16/22 9:10:54 AM
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Stalinrules posted...
Put the fucker in gen pop and walk away.

I like the way you think

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Slayer_22
06/18/22 9:34:46 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Don't attract those people, please.

Dude deserves the chair. As quickly as possible, too.

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action52
06/18/22 9:39:49 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Karels was ordered held on a $10 million bond Wednesday morning.
How the fuck is bond of any kind allowed?

ktownslayer16 posted...
As someone mentioned, to do this not once but 3 times in a row shows this guy was a complete psychopath.
And he did it out of spite. JFC.

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MTRodaba2468
06/18/22 10:40:10 AM
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Stalinrules posted...
Put the fucker in gen pop and walk away.

This. 100%

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Xavier_On_High
06/18/22 10:47:01 AM
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There is no earthly punishment to fit this crime

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kingdrake2
06/18/22 10:52:47 AM
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action52 posted...
How the fuck is bond of any kind allowed?


judge sets the highest bond possible so the guy cant get out.
even if he does make bond. he'll be under heavy restrictions.

ankle monitor. the works.

thinking about it now. doesn't deserve bond for what he caused.

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SHRlKE
06/18/22 10:56:30 AM
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Whats the back story here?

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SHRlKE
06/18/22 10:57:04 AM
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I oppose it. Why?
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The_Creep_2020
06/19/22 11:17:16 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Whats the back story here?
The guy is a huge piece of shit?

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SHRlKE
06/20/22 10:46:49 AM
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Yes. Its important to see what pushed him this far to see if we can avoid similar things happening in the future to other kids.

I dont condone what he did whatsoever. He gets no sympathy from me. But trying to avoid it happening again is also important. If there was a string of events that led to this horrid event that can be reviewed to try and prevent future similar events.
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ThePieReborn
06/20/22 1:33:32 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Yes. Its important to see what pushed him this far to see if we can avoid similar things happening in the future to other kids.

I dont condone what he did whatsoever. He gets no sympathy from me. But trying to avoid it happening again is also important. If there was a string of events that led to this horrid event that can be reviewed to try and prevent future similar events.
Judging by the note, likely a divorce or modification of custody that did not end favorably for him.

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Prestoff
06/20/22 1:41:04 PM
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Man fuck this guy.

Divorce, especially when children are involved are the worst. I know a couple of friends who believe that long term relationships is a farce because of their parents divorce.

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Slayer_22
06/20/22 2:38:32 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Yes. Its important to see what pushed him this far to see if we can avoid similar things happening in the future to other kids.

I dont condone what he did whatsoever. He gets no sympathy from me. But trying to avoid it happening again is also important. If there was a string of events that led to this horrid event that can be reviewed to try and prevent future similar events.
I don't think there was any way to avoid this situation unless the dude wasn't a psychtopath piece of human filth.

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BearlyWilling
06/20/22 2:42:14 PM
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Stalinrules posted...
Put the fucker in gen pop and walk away.


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Ar0ge
06/20/22 2:56:19 PM
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How can you look at their adorable faces and still do that to them...
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The_Creep_2020
06/21/22 10:32:52 AM
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Ar0ge posted...
How can you look at their adorable faces and still do that to them...
Because abusive pieces of shit like that care more about hurting their exes than they do about the lives of their own children.

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SHRlKE
06/21/22 3:01:51 PM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
care more about hurting their exes than they do about the lives of their own children.

Unfortunately in a lot of cases the judges tend to side with the mothers despite what is in the best interests of the kids.
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Prestoff
06/21/22 3:09:21 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Unfortunately in a lot of cases the judges tend to side with the mothers despite what is in the best interests of the kids.

What you posted had nothing to do with his response.

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SHRlKE
06/21/22 3:22:57 PM
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Prestoff posted...
What you posted had nothing to do with his response.

I think it does and I agree with his argument.

Sometimes women will abuse the system and want custody of the kids purely to get back at their exes. Sometimes men only want custody to get back at their exes.

Unfortunately the system is very much skewed towards siding with the mum even when they might not be the best choice when all the factors are looked at objectively. This is a larger issue and not related to this case specifically.
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WaterLink
06/21/22 3:26:18 PM
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Father is a POS for drowning the kids

I've often wondered though, what would happen if a court ruled that the guy had to pay child support/alimony with very little or no custody, so the father just decided to off himself. Assuming he didn't have a life insurance policy or something, can't expect a dead guy to make payments so do the woman and kids get any kind of payments after that or is it just done?

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ThePieReborn
06/21/22 3:49:04 PM
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WaterLink posted...
Father is a POS for drowning the kids

I've often wondered though, what would happen if a court ruled that the guy had to pay child support/alimony with very little or no custody, so the father just decided to off himself. Assuming he didn't have a life insurance policy or something, can't expect a dead guy to make payments so do the woman and kids get any kind of payments after that or is it just done?
In my state, the mother (technically the child, but the mother is supposed to act on the child's behalf; anyway, splitting hairs) would essentially be a creditor of the father's estate. If the father had a prior mortgage/deed of trust, the support obligation is subordinate to that mortgage. However, other secured interests are subordinate to the child support obligation, so the priority goes pre-existing mortgage>child support>other interests whose priorities we don't care about.

Basically you drain the estate of assets until there isn't anything left. If the father had income -generating assets, those assets could be placed in a trust to continue payments.

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SHRlKE
06/22/22 2:36:36 PM
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Any more news on the lead up to this horrible crime?
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The Wheelman1
06/22/22 2:49:48 PM
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He has shown exactly why he doesn't deserve his children.

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Alucard188
06/22/22 2:55:29 PM
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Three innocent children used as a prop in a dispute. There isn't a punishment that will be enough justice.

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