Current Events > "Women have it so easy when it comes to dating!"

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If this makes me look like a piece of shit

Thanks for that. Men often talk about having to become numb and guarded due to being rejected. But dont have any empathy for what women experience. We should be happy with the sexual harassment, unsolicited dick picks, pump and dumps (oh but we had sex at least right??), rejected (yes women get rejected all the time), because at least guys want to stick it in us and that makes it all better?

Guess what, if youre reasonably attractive, personable and financially stable, you will get dates and you will land a relationship if thats your goal, regardless of gender. Both will be challenging and wading through a bunch of crap in different ways. Hell just having 2/3 will up your chances significantly.

idk, in basically every topic like this here or anywhere else I've seen (other than like straight-up incel type places) more or less half of the men take the women's perspective. That's why they always get drawn-out to like 200+ posts of people yelling at each other. On the other hand, I can't recall ever seeing a woman step in and take the men's side. Kinda interesting imo.

Being used for sex is a type of rejection though.

Yeah there's just a general lack of loyalty or support among men. It contributes to the lack of self-esteeem and the festering of those extremist forums.

idk, in basically every topic like this here or anywhere else I've seen (other than like straight-up incel type places) more or less half of the men take the women's perspective. That's why they always get drawn-out to like 200+ posts of people yelling at each other. On the other hand, I can't recall ever seeing a woman step in and take the men's side. Kinda interesting imo.

That's how you framed it.

The never ending shit buffet comment implied that every dating option a woman has is a bad one. I responded by saying that surely there are good ones too. You doubled down and said no, there aren't. That the ones that look like a good option are still just pieces of shit trying to make themselves look good to manipulate women into sex.

How else can that be taken other than you saying all men are pieces of shit? And you, as a man, and one ce's biggest players are included in that. So am I, and every man that dares attempt to get a date apparently.

Maybe phrasing it using the word fault is a poor way to communicate my idea, which is just that doing nothing is also a choice, one that all but guarantees the outcome you are most afraid of, i.e. a life without love and fulfillment. Further, to say things like, Im not worthy or I dont deserve [love, happiness, etc.] is also a choice to continue abusing yourself in the way that your father has.

My opinion is this, your life, and choosing to take control and live it in accordance to your desire to become happy, is your absolute best shot at revenge against that fucking bastard. Hes done all he can to instill in you the same self loathing he feels toward himself, and its up to you to reject that as a fundamentally untrue assignation of character. No one else is capable of giving you self respect or self assurance, they can try to interfere and convince you that youre not capable of it, or try to support you by reinforcing it, but thats it, they are powerless to create or destroy it. Its become such a clich but its really true that the path to happiness lies inward, so when people say things like focus on yourself or put yourself first, they mean to take responsibility as the one person you can truly trust to treat you as if you are worthy of love. To that end, things like self forgiveness, acceptance, understanding, and patience with yourself for your imperfections are absolutely crucial skills and habits to develop and refine. It also gets easier with practice.

You cant get back the time youve already lost, dwelling on it has only made you miserable, but treating yourself as someone who is worth loving will give you the tools needed to manifest a better future. This goes for anyone, hold dear those excuses you so cherish if you must, they will only stop you. If you truly desire to move forward it is required that you let them go.

Im sorry if Ive upset anyone, I dont intend to be callous, but Im here to tell you that you are most certainly capable and worthy of happiness, but its not a place you go, or something you find, no one can bring it to you, ITS A PERSON YOU BECOME.

The philosophical question being presented here is "what's worse: having lots of bad dates and a few good ones, or having less of both?"

TL;DR - women hate dating apps because the majority of dates end up creating a d distinctly net negative on their life

the fact that there's anything to experience at all(good and bad) seems to be a net positive overall otherwise this saying wouldn't have survived for centuries: "better to have loved and lost..."

Bro, my only point is that most women hate the dating game too, you don't need to take that as an attack on being a man.

But what seems to be missed by the female side or proponents of it. Is the literal fact you have options, choices, and are actually desired and wanted

But what seems to be missed by the female side or proponents of it. Is the literal fact you have options, choices, and are actually desired and wanted

the fact that there's anything to experience at all(good and bad) seems to be a net positive overall otherwise this saying wouldn't have survived for centuries: "better to have loved and lost..."

and you never get your sweater back.

Honestly the worst part sometimes. It can be a damn good top.

They also say "if you can't love me at my worst you don't deserve me at best", but as it turns out wine mom memes are not good information sources for how to live your life.

Not like, you meet someone attractive and after they fuck you and tell you they love you they text you a few days later saying they "need some time to figure some stuff out" and you never get your sweater back.

apparently famous quote by famous poet = random quote by random person of the SoMe age

did both people enjoy getting fucked? then they both had a positive experience up to and including the actual fucking when they could have said no at any time beforehand.

the negative parts that came after... well "it's better to have loved and lost than not to at all".

Just saying it's not a positive experience for someone who wants a substantial, meaningful connection out of dating to be repeatedly used for sex by people who aren't honest about their intentions.

i don't want to dive into hypotheticals or i could just ask "what stopped the person looking for a meaningful relationship from having sex until marriage?", but the point is that they both had an experience that carried positive and negative effects which according to tennyson is better than not having had anything at all.

yes, women most likely have more shitty experiences on account of the probable fact they just have more experiences in general but at least they get to experience something.

it definitely takes a privileged being to claim in hindsight that they would have preferred experiencing nothing at all since too many men have been stuck in this position since birth, again writing up manifestos until the day it becomes too much and they go on a rampage.

Yeah, because being wanted by creeps or those who mean you harm feels fucking great and not a depressing hellscape nightmare.

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I might have said this 100 posts ago, but topic's not great