Current Events > The Media is a doing it's rounds to support Amber Heard ?

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Last Post about this situation. I spoke before about not understand why people would still support her. However this is different, this is the media knowing what is up and the doing a full course press for her.

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The writer ..
https://twitter.com/Maryclairedale/status/1532871160479764485

So you know that this isn't just men supporting Johnny. What pisses me off about this is the whole fucking framing of this thing. Men can be victims of domestic violence too. And male victims are almost never heard ,or cared about. This time a jury said hey this KNOWN abuser (AH) is lying here. And people are doing back flips to defend it in the media.

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media gon media, theyre always going with the spin that grants the most clicks

there have been plenty of female DV victims who spoke out IN SUPPORT of Depp winning the defamation case
some of them saw similarities between their abusers and how Amber Heard admitted being abusive in private and gaslit Johnny into not bothering to voice being a victim

most women, even in the US, are not man hating bitter radfems (who are a vocal group, but statistically a minority)
the judge allowing court proceedings on camera was eye opening for many western women in how they perceive who can be a victim of DV
many other women did not even need to see Heard's behavior in court to understand that male victims also exist and women can be perpetrators too

Heard did not just shit the bed
she ironically took as giant dump on the credibility of #BelieveAllWomen
now even more women are questioning that because of Heard's underhanded tactics in smearing Johnny
she crossed certain lines that even some hardnosed radfems admitted was too much

no really, some self identified radfems have turned pro Depp after watching the case play out, Heard fucked up that much lol

Reason is frowned upon.

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Look at this shit . Even the Root was like .. This is very bad for Black Women. LOL

told u
medias gotta spin this shit to get clicks and uphold their profitable narratives (ie: men can't be victims, women never lie about being perps of DV)

the Rolling Stone article looks the dumbest, since part of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp as a victim of DV and defamation is that most men DONT win in these cases
he had to spend a fortune just to compete in court while getting blackballed by Hollywood and these shitty media outlets continued to smear him and praise his abuser

the majority of men:

• do not have a fortune to blow in court or can afford to put work on hold for drawn out hearings
• do not have celebrity or political supporters to back them up
• won't get their legal battle covered by media that institutionally ignore male victims of DV because theyre less marketable
• can't stay safe at home with a sustainable income while media crazed cancel culture is out to get them
• wont see their reputation repaired and profession restored even if they do win their case

so many people have commented realizing that the only reason Depp had a prayer of ever seeing justice in his favor was hes a rich high profile likeable celeb who still has millions of fans and celeb friends willing to speak out for him, he was too hard for the media to bury

imagine how often this shit happens to average men without anywhere near those resources and trying to survive the fallout of social and professional cancelation brought on by a mere accusation, imagine women who try to help these men prove their innocence and are stuck watching rigged systems that dont give a shit about destroying men who are not wealthy elites

the Root's take is even more stupid since it completely glosses over who the majority of wrongfully accused and jailed men are in the US when it comes to false DV allegations: minority men, including black men

this shit is why i guard my younger brother with my life
ive always told him if a woman starts harassing him to call his big sis to make that skank shit bricks
i will not hesitate to use my privilege as an american woman to deck hers lol

This is a little bit ridiculous

She cut the man's finger off, lied about sexual abuse, abuse and so many things in general. All he wanted was his good name back, and as soon as he has it, media does this.

It's like some women literally do not believe a man could ever be a victim or something

cjsdowg posted...

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Look at this shit . Even the Root was like .. This is very bad for Black Women. LOL

I can't tell if they are amber heard supporters or they are just doing it for click bait.

I friggin knew this was going to happen. She abuses Johnny and lies her ass off in court and people STILL support her just for being a female going up against a man. What the fuck man.

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NonDairyMiltank posted...

told u
medias gotta spin this shit to get clicks and uphold their profitable narratives (ie: men can't be victims, women never lie about being perps of DV)

the Rolling Stone article looks the dumbest, since part of the controversy surrounding Johnny Depp as a victim of DV and defamation is that most men DONT win in these cases
he had to spend a fortune just to compete in court while getting blackballed by Hollywood and these shitty media outlets continued to smear him and praise his abuser

the majority of men:
* do not have a fortune to blow in court or can afford to put work on hold for drawn out hearings
* do not have celebrity or political supporters to back them up
* won't get their legal battle covered by media that institutionally ignore male victims of DV because theyre less marketable
* can't stay safe at home with a sustainable income while media crazed cancel culture is out to get them
* wont see their reputation repaired and profession restored even if they do win their case
so many people have commented realizing that the only reason Depp had a prayer of ever seeing justice in his favor was hes a rich high profile likeable celeb who still has millions of fans and celeb friends willing to speak out for him, he was too hard for the media to bury

imagine how often this shit happens to average men without anywhere near those resources and trying to survive the fallout of social and professional cancelation brought on by a mere accusation, imagine women who try to help these men prove their innocence and are stuck watching rigged systems that dont give a shit about destroying men who are not wealthy elites

the Root's take is even more stupid since it completely glosses over who the majority of wrongfully accused and jailed men are in the US when it comes to false DV allegations: minority men, including black men

this shit is why i guard my younger brother with my life
ive always told him if a woman starts harassing him to call his big sis to make that skank shit bricks
i will not hesitate to use my privilege as an american woman to deck hers lol

Amen.
My former brother in law was almost arrested when the neighbors called the cops about his wife screaming & physically attacking him. He had bruises & scratches all over his arms and torso, there wasn't a mark on her, and they still assumed she was the victim.

Fuck all of those scumbag companies that would push this terribly sexist narrative that men are always the bad guys.

cjsdowg posted...

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Look at this shit . Even the Root was like .. This is very bad for Black Women. LOL

Based on the headlines, some of those might not be wrong.

The metoo movement took a major setback and people are going to be pointing to this case to doubt women when they come forward.

Amber is definitely to blame for that though.

Collat posted...

Based on the headlines, some of those might not be wrong.

The metoo movement took a major setback and people are going to be pointing to this case to doubt women when they come forward.

Amber is definitely to blame for that though.

Exactly. The whole thing was a cluster fuck and the verdict is going to be used in the future to deter some legit women coming forward. That however isnt the fault of Depp or the legal system. That is solely down to Amber. The defamation of Depp was pretty horrific but her real crime will always be towards legitimate domestic violence victims.

Which is ironic as she seems to be getting a lot of support from certain groups in that world. Can they not see supporting her is actually damaging their well founded concerns about women not coming forwards. Strange pairing. Almost like she is gaslighting then you know like an abuser

Seems like it's less about supporting Heard and more about the wider implications this case has on our culture as a whole

Or people could not lie? I mean the judge did tell the jury Depp would lose if they could believe a single piece of evidence Heard had that he abused her.

Seems its less people supporting her and more what this means for the future when woman come forward. It is a reasonable fear. Just because Heard was lying and the actual abuser doesn't mean every woman is lying.

creativerealms posted...

Seems its less people supporting her and more what this means for the future when woman come forward. It is a reasonable fear. Just because Heard was lying and the actual abuser doesn't mean every woman is lying.

I mean if they are not lying, they should be fine. The people who automatically dont believe before this trial will still refuse to believe and the rest of us will believe and wait on evidence like before.

Trial shouldn't have been televised imo.

cjsdowg posted...

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Look at this shit . Even the Root was like .. This is very bad for Black Women. LOL

Ofc, this was inevitable.
As Asmongold put it, the people writing these articles are more upset they are losing their voice of control than they were about actual Justice being served to an abuser and helping a victim.

What does them losing their voice of control mean? Well most feminists infact sided with Johnny.
I would explain who it is writing these articles but last time I did a bunch of users got mad and mass marked me.

It was my understanding the only reason it ever went to court was because of her lies and BS. That's what led to all of it coming out.

justaguy3492 posted...

Trial shouldn't have been televised imo.

So that everyone would dogpile on Johnny and not support him like they are doing now?

I can't really think of other reason why it shouldn't have been.

cjsdowg posted...

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Look at this shit . Even the Root was like .. This is very bad for Black Women. LOL

Most of these are definitely absurd, but I think a few do have a legitimate point. The trial did become more spectacle and was treated like reality TV than the serious matter it was by many (not all, obviously)

I just did my best to avoid it entirely, as everything I found was treating it like watching a sports team with childish mocking of the other side on both sides.

Amber clearly sucks, but good god the internet was fucking awful around this trial.

WingsOfGood posted...

So that everyone would dogpile on Johnny and not support him like they are doing now?

I can't really think of other reason why it shouldn't have been.

Televising the trial does nothing for justice. I didn't watch any of it so I have no opinion on the outcome, but if Dick and Jane wouldn't have had their trial televised then neither should celebrities.

justaguy3492 posted...

Televising the trial does nothing for justice. I didn't watch any of it so I have no opinion on the outcome, but if Dick and Jane wouldn't have had their trial televised then neither should celebrities.

Him winning the money did nothing for justice as her punishment is barely even $1 million. This is because she pocketed $7 million during the divorce that she was supposed to have given to charity.

Justice can only be served from it being televised FYI

WingsOfGood posted...

Him winning the money did nothing for justice as her punishment is barely even $1 million. This is because she pocketed $7 million during the divorce that she was supposed to have given to charity.

Justice can only be served from it being televised FYI

Justice only comes from the court of public opinion not a court of law. Got it.

justaguy3492 posted...

Justice only comes from the court of public opinion not a court of law. Got it.

What do you believe is fitting justice for what she did to Depp?

@justaguy3492

justaguy3492 posted...

Televising the trial does nothing for justice. I didn't watch any of it so I have no opinion on the outcome, but if Dick and Jane wouldn't have had their trial televised then neither should celebrities.

It does everything for justice. The judge even specifically wanted it so that people wouldnt attack based on the verdict alone, now they have the trial to use as evidence.

Nothing but a bunch of morons

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

It was my understanding the only reason it ever went to court was because of her lies and BS. That's what led to all of it coming out.

Pretty much. When they divorced and reached a settlement, this whole thing would have ended right then and there while both their careers would have been relatively untouched if they just left it at that. It's when Amber decided to write the op-ed (that we now know was built on lies) that everything started to go downhill for them.

This whole show is like the Kardashians except the fans are 10x more psychotic

LightHawKnight posted...

It does everything for justice. The judge even specifically wanted it so that people wouldnt attack based on the verdict alone, now they have the trial to use as evidence.

yea the judge was in a bad spot if not televised

either verdict would been accused of bias and attacked

with it televised people can go "actually watch this video" and shut up such comments

ofc many who refused to watch even a clip are infact ones now attacking the verdict no surprise

WingsOfGood posted...

What do you believe is fitting justice for what she did to Depp?

@justaguy3492

justaguy3492 posted...

I didn't watch any of it so I have no opinion on the outcome

I'm not here to say she was actually the victim, I didn't watch it and I trust the court to handle the outcome. I'm just saying this weird tribalism people are showing feels like it's November in an election year and that's because it was so heavily televised/covered by the media and internet personalities.

justaguy3492 posted...

I'm not here to say she was actually the victim, I didn't watch it and I trust the court to handle the outcome. I'm just saying this weird tribalism people are showing feels like it's November in an election year and that's because it was so heavily televised/covered by the media and internet personalities.

Odd that you ignored my question....

you should be able to say what is a just punishment or verdict for an abuser found to defame their victim....

WingsOfGood posted...

Odd that you ignored my question....

you should be able to say what is a just punishment or verdict for an abuser found to defame their victim....

It's odd that I can't say what should be done with 0 legal background and 0 knowledge of the case? Are you under the impression that all defamation cases are handled the same? The whole fucking point I'm making is yours and my opinions don't matter, only that of the judge and jury do when it comes to the legal system.

justaguy3492 posted...

It's odd that I can't say what should be done with 0 legal background and 0 knowledge of the case? Are you under the impression that all defamation cases are handled the same? The whole f***ing point I'm making is yours and my opinions don't matter, only that of the judge and jury do when it comes to the legal system.

You do realize the judge and jury cannot do things like remove her from aquaman and have studios not want to work with her right?

And why is that considered justice? Oh well... you know that is what happened to Johnny when she lied on him and called him an abuser.

Do you think this is not fair? Because this could only happen due to televised trial.

1 million dollar damages is nothing for her even now tbh

cjsdowg posted...

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That CNN headline is sickening. I hope that's just an opinion piece from one random contributor.

"This verdict is bigger than the two people involved. Letting an innocent man win sends a bad message to women everywhere."

I expect that from Salon or Mary Sue, not CNN.

FortuneCookie posted...

That CNN headline is sickening. I hope that's just an opinion piece from one random contributor.

"This verdict is bigger than the two people involved. Letting an innocent man win sends a bad message to women everywhere."

I expect that from Salon or Mary Sue, not CNN.

It literally says opinion in the pic lol

WingsOfGood posted...

It literally says opinion in the pic lol

Oh, yeah. They have some shitty contributors. Like that one dude who basically said that Hitler was the good guy for going after Jews.

on it's own the CNN thing means nothing but as the pic shows, it is not alone

infact even minutes after the verdict I easily found people supporting Amber and who had not watched the trial for reasons, tweeting about injustice and such

I truly that that victims of domestic abuse become reluctant to come out because of this case. I do hope that people become more far more reluctant to make false accusations however.

FortuneCookie posted...

That CNN headline is sickening. I hope that's just an opinion piece from one random contributor.

"This verdict is bigger than the two people involved. Letting an innocent man win sends a bad message to women everywhere."

I expect that from Salon or Mary Sue, not CNN.

I don't see the second part in that headline. Unless it's from the actual article.

creativerealms posted...

Seems its less people supporting her and more what this means for the future when woman come forward. It is a reasonable fear. Just because Heard was lying and the actual abuser doesn't mean every woman is lying.

And who's fucking fault is that?!

Plenty of DV victims (many of which are women) are standing WITH Depp.
If anyone put the validity of DV claims of women into question, IT WAS AMBER TURD BEING AN UNDERHANDED BITCH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
She cried wolf making hyperbolic accusations towards Depp and it came out in court. On camera.

What was Depp supposed to do after getting defamed, taking critical shots to his career, and almost getting canceled into obscurity? Just "man up" and roll with it? Stay silent about what was wrongfully done to him as a victim himself because it might make radical feminist talking points awkward and put their biased agendas under heavier scrutiny?

No, how about we just piss off with that sexist noise. Piss off with that cowardice. Men can be victims too, false allegations are real. And if anyone took a giant steaming shit on the credibility of MeToo, it's liars like Ms. Heard.

Johnny Depp did not jeopardize the validity of woman making DV claims. Amber Heard did.

Swallow it.

A lot of people have said things like oh this will make people less likely to speak up and things like that. WHAT HELL , Johnny is the victim. If anything these reports keep up the lie that it is always the man who is the victim of DV. You can't support victims of DV while supporting Amber. More over she beat up he last girlfriend. People just forget that.

cjsdowg posted...

A lot of people have said things like oh this will make people less likely to speak up and things like that. WHAT HELL , Johnny is the victim.

Both can be true.

Amber could very well fuck over some actual victims of domestic abuse with this case.

Anybody trying to defend Amber Heard over it is a piece of shit either way.

cjsdowg posted...

A lot of people have said things like oh this will make people less likely to speak up and things like that. WHAT HELL , Johnny is the victim. If anything these reports keep up the lie that it is always the man who is the victim of DV. You can't support victims of DV while supporting Amber. More over she beat up he last girlfriend. People just forget that.

Male abuse is still very stigmatized.

Worth mentioning that Johnny Depp is also a multi-millionaire global movie star who had the financial and public support to fight this.

A young male intern who gets sexually assaulted by his wealthy, famous boss, writes an op-ed accusing them, and then gets sued for defamation may not have the resources to fight the case. "Yeah well the evidence will support the victim," you might be thinking? I wouldn't count on that, someone with a history of abusing people will know how to cover their tracks at least semi-decently.

Collat posted...

Both can be true.

Amber could very well fuck over some actual victims of domestic abuse with this case.

Anybody trying to defend Amber Heard over it is a piece of shit either way.

Not sure how it can fuck over actual victims. The judge literally told the jury that if they can find one believable piece of evidence that Depp physically abused Heard, just one, Depp loses. They didnt find one. An actual victim should have a ton of evidence, even if they dont want to collect it.

Worth bearing in mind this was a case about defamation. And not necessarily whether he ever abused her or not. He lost in the UK against the papers because he had abused her and they only had to find one instance of him abusing her to rule in the papers favour.

The heard case was about the extent to which he was abusing her and about its that were made. Depp still lost one of the verdicts and had to pay Amber 2 million.

From whats Ive seen while Heard is obviously the one who did more harm depp isnt 100% innocent and there are still things he did that were questionable. No one should come out of this case well.

I will say much like the Zimmerman incident, your opinion will be very heavily influenced by whether or not you actually followed the trial.

People who didn't follow the trial, didn't look at the evidence, didn't listen to the witnesses, didn't see Heard lie over and over and over and over and over and over again... They are much more likely to support Heard or at least "both sides" demonize Depp.

You'll notice nearly the entire "They're both as bad as each other, they clearly abused each other" people near universally didn't follow the case.

All they heard is via their social media feed "Heard says Depp abused her, UK Court says there's proof this happened, Now Heard tells Americans Depp abused her and they don't believe her because Vagina."

And when you've been dripfed that message, you're much more likely to be outraged.

Personally I hope the people who are angry/upset about this use it as a moment to reflect because I garantee you've done it before on a different event/news piece. Not looked into the facts and just had an emotional reaction to what little you were told.

As a society we're quick to judge/react and slow to listen.

I really hope that going forward people are more receptive to male victims of abuse and don't solely defend Depp because he's Depp.

SHRlKE posted...

Worth bearing in mind this was a case about defamation. And not necessarily whether he ever abused her or not. He lost in the UK against the papers because he had abused her and they only had to find one instance of him abusing her to rule in the papers favour.

This is wrong on both counts.

The Sun only had to prove that the person who wrote the article could sincerely believe Depp was abusive. They never had to prove that he did it.

The UK case did NOT prove Depp did anything. They just demonstrated there was a bunch of rumors/stories/belief that made calling him a wifebeater a reasonable thing to believe.

Like if you said Elon Musk is a car lover.

You don't have to prove Elon Musk loves cars, he can't say you defamed him because even if he despises cars it would impossible to prove you didn't sincerely believe he loves cares and that his status was defamed by you pointing it out.

And in the US case the Jury only needed to know of one case of Depp beating/raping Amber to make her article not defamation. If they believe Depp did beat her like Heard claimed, then Heard wins. But she couldn't demonstrate it via evidence and was proven to be a ridiclous liar on the stand.