Current Events > Great grandfather of student killed in Texas goes off on cops

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jstewart01
06/01/22 11:23:19 PM
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https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1532128036392296449

This pain in his voice is soul crushing. It's infuriating how much all of this could have been avoided.
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Questionmarktarius
06/01/22 11:31:51 PM
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This is why residency requirements for cops need to be strongly considered.

"I don't work in this town"
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jstewart01
06/02/22 1:05:19 AM
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ellis123
06/02/22 1:08:13 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is why residency requirements for cops need to be strongly considered.

"I don't work in this town"
It's not done that way because cops in the past kept on using their personal grudges against neighbors as a justification to harass them. When it comes to cops the only way to actually fix the problems is screening for things other than low intelligence (and I mean that literally, if you are too smart you will get turned away because of the chance of you getting bored).

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Darkprince21
06/02/22 1:10:26 AM
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ellis123 posted...
It's not done that way because cops in the past kept on using their personal grudges against neighbors as a justification to harass them. When it comes to cops the only way to actually fix the problems is screening for things other than low intelligence (and I mean that literally, if you are too smart you will get turned away because of the chance of you getting bored).

Agreed, but your last statement isnt 100 percent factual. That particular statistics refers to one incident 20 years ago from one department on one potential person. Its not actually a hiring standard by any department today. Also, the average IQ of the American police officer is higher than the average IQ of the general American population.

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CruelBuffalo
06/02/22 1:12:10 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is why residency requirements for cops need to be strongly considered.

"I don't work in this town"


I think the town asked cops from other areas to help with service because they are currently out of patrol
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TerrifyingRei
06/02/22 1:13:40 AM
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Darkprince21 posted...
Agreed, but your last statement isnt 100 percent factual. That particular statistics refers to one incident 20 years ago from one department on one potential person. Its not actually a hiring standard by any department today. Also, the average IQ of the American police officer is higher than the average IQ of the general American population.
i mean, the bar is ridiculously low

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ellis123
06/02/22 1:15:14 AM
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Darkprince21 posted...
Agreed, but your last statement isnt 100 percent factual. That particular statistics refers to one incident 20 years ago from one department on one potential person. Its not actually a hiring standard by any department today. Also, the average IQ of the American police officer is higher than the average IQ of the general American population.
  1. I wasn't saying that it was a 100% for all stations across the nation. I was overgeneralizing.
  2. IQ isn't a good metric for anything as it is a relative thing. In this case being smarter than half of the population is trivial when you take even the most basic of glances at the current political climate.

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Darkprince21
06/02/22 1:17:40 AM
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TerrifyingRei posted...
i mean, the bar is ridiculously low
It really just depends on where you are. Which is part of the problem. There needs to be a federal standard. My friend joined Chicago police around the same time I went to my academy. He was done in a couple months and would send me snap chats of them goofing all day. During field training they would ride 4 trainees in a car with an FTO and be dropped off somewhere. Basically nothing.

I tested in a pool of 3000, which ended up with 80, I was ranked third. Out of the 80, 23 of us graduated. It was pure hell of 6 months academy. I would stay up until 4am. They would make us write policy and laws in my state like in the order of the Phoenix. Just over and over. We would spend hours getting quizzes on laws, having to recite policy and laws verbatim. Like actual paragraphs. All while we got yelled at and disciplined.

We hard written and scenario tests. It was brutal. People quit and fired left and right. My field training was even harder. In took me 2 years from start to finish before I could even sniff a cop car by myself
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IShall_Run_Amok
06/02/22 1:31:03 AM
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I don't think the problem is that the cops were from out of town. The problem is that they are American police officers.

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Number090684
06/02/22 1:40:14 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I don't think the problem is that the cops were from out of town. The problem is that they are American police officers.

You mean "American" police officers?
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gunplagirl
06/02/22 1:43:07 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is why residency requirements for cops need to be strongly considered.

"I don't work in this town"
Plenty of them did and so they went inside, got their kids out, and called it a day.

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Umbreon
06/02/22 1:45:46 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"I don't work in this town"

Sounds a lot like "Not my problem"

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gna647
06/02/22 1:51:54 AM
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After the infamous Hollywood shootout needed to be trained to handle multiple suspects using automatic rifles and body armor

that was almost 30 years ago.

how are they not able to to storm the building and kill the shooter asap. They need to go fucking in

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Shablagoo
06/02/22 8:36:44 AM
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Darkprince21 posted...
I tested in a pool of 3000, which ended up with 80, I was ranked third. Out of the 80, 23 of us graduated. It was pure hell of 6 months academy.

Seriously?? Thats pretty hilarious because the bar for me to become a Library Circulation Assistant was literally twice (4x?) as stringent (pool of 6,000; 11 of us hired).

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Southernfatman
06/02/22 8:38:39 AM
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Hope he doesn't end up getting harassed and abused by bitch ass cops for daring to criticize them.

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gunplagirl
06/02/22 8:43:05 AM
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Darkprince21 posted...
It really just depends on where you are. Which is part of the problem. There needs to be a federal standard. My friend joined Chicago police around the same time I went to my academy. He was done in a couple months and would send me snap chats of them goofing all day. During field training they would ride 4 trainees in a car with an FTO and be dropped off somewhere. Basically nothing.

I tested in a pool of 3000, which ended up with 80, I was ranked third. Out of the 80, 23 of us graduated. It was pure hell of 6 months academy. I would stay up until 4am. They would make us write policy and laws in my state like in the order of the Phoenix. Just over and over. We would spend hours getting quizzes on laws, having to recite policy and laws verbatim. Like actual paragraphs. All while we got yelled at and disciplined.

We hard written and scenario tests. It was brutal. People quit and fired left and right. My field training was even harder. In took me 2 years from start to finish before I could even sniff a cop car by myself
6 months of academy. It takes more than that to become a licensed barber. That's not even getting into how many hands on hours they need in most states.

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3PiesAndAFork
06/02/22 9:25:33 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
6 months of academy. It takes more than that to become a licensed barber. That's not even getting into how many hands on hours they need in most states.
I mean, 6 months should be enough time to teach trainees the difference between white and black. The fact that only 23 out of 3000 passed is embarrassing for the American population as a whole, and that this guy placed third? A fucking joke. No wonder the police is in the state it's in.

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Alucard188
06/02/22 9:26:49 AM
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Shit, they're still grieving. Now we're never going to find out why Uvalde police are fucking inept and stupid.

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Background_Guy
06/02/22 9:27:46 AM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
I mean, 6 months should be enough time to teach trainees the difference between white and black
Well police are very good at knowing that
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gunplagirl
06/02/22 9:32:10 AM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
I mean, 6 months should be enough time to teach trainees the difference between white and black. The fact that only 23 out of 3000 passed is embarrassing for the American population as a whole, and that this guy placed third? A fucking joke. No wonder the police is in the state it's in.
To be fair, most of them probably failed on the second lesson which is "point this end of the gun forward". And it takes a very special type of person to apply to become a police officer. Traits which I shall decline to expand upon given the current political climate.

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Darkprince21
06/02/22 12:21:40 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
6 months of academy. It takes more than that to become a licensed barber. That's not even getting into how many hands on hours they need in most states.
And 6 months of field training. And 1 year of probation. I kinda went over there that. I said the process took like two years.
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Darkprince21
06/02/22 12:26:03 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Seriously?? Thats pretty hilarious because the bar for me to become a Library Circulation Assistant was literally twice (4x?) as stringent (pool of 6,000; 11 of us hired).
Every department is different. My department is bigger, it has multiple academies a year and were still understaffed from before 2020. My squad requires minimum staffing of 10 and has currently 7 employed.

Most departments only hire for 1 or 2 slots. I tested for one department in IL in 2016. 2k applicants for one slot
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