Current Events > US Soccer, men's and women's national teams agree to equal pay

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TheDurinator posted...

The punch line in all of this is that americans generally don't care about soccer in the first place.

That's why it's "oh by the way" on the news, and then internet shitposts about it.

The epic shitstorm will be when this happens to basketball.

This whole saga has been so confusing. They don't have the same job. They don't deserve equal pay simply for existing. Whoever brings in more revenue deserves more money, whether that is the men or the women. Relative performance doesn't matter if one side still brings in more money because they get more viewers. If the women have been bringing in equal or more revenue, that's one thing, but I've never seen that as the argument.

Nemu posted...

Whoever brings in more revenue deserves more money,

Is that standard actually applied in any other field?

Antifar posted...

Is that standard actually applied in any other field?

Actors, newscasters, anyone whose name recognition adds to their payscale. Their very existence is part of how their pay gets determined.

Solid Snake07 posted...

how much anyone gets paid is a negotiation between the employer and the employee of compensation for the work provided. In the case of professional athletes its a negotiation between their representation and the team/league.

We have a bunch of guys here who seem to want a say in this negotiation.

s0nicfan posted...

According to the article, the new contract lets them split the advertising and fifa payouts (something that wasn't previously being offered), which in practice means they're basically raiding the men's teams paychecks to boost their own pay. In exchange, they're back on a performance-based contract without the same base pay guarantees from their prior contract like the men's team has, but they get to keep all the added benefits like medical/dental/parental leave that the men don't get.

So whoever their negotiator is should get a medal. The women's team keeps all the extra benefits the men don't have, PLUS they get a cut of the men's ad and FIFA payouts, and all they had to give up was going from their high base pay contract to the identical one they were first offered back before the lawsuit.

Yep.

america is sexist to women's sports

If I'm reading this right, all the FIFA prize money is pooled, so the women's team may end up carrying the crappy men's team.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/5/AAEhCpAADP5j.jpg

Questionmarktarius posted...

If I'm reading this right, all the FIFA prize money is pooled, so the women's team may end up carrying the crappy men's team.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/5/AAEhCpAADP5j.jpg

In practice it's the opposite. The men's team pulled in 9 million from FIFA and the women's team pulled in 4 million. Even though they placed higher in their league, the men's team just brought in more money overall. So what they're doing is pooling their prize money and then splitting it evenly, meaning using the numbers above the men and women's teams would each get four and a half million from the men's pool and 2 million from the women's pool.

So for the women's team this is a two and a half million dollar increase and for the men's team it's a two and a half million dollar decrease.

Edit: your confusion might be how FIFA handles payouts overall. The men's league pools all of their profits and pays out to each team a percentage of that based on their placement. The women's league does the same.

Imagine getting upset because some professional athletes agreed to a pay cut

s0nicfan posted...

Edit: your confusion might be how FIFA handles payouts overall. The men's league pools all of their profits and pays out to each team a percentage of that based on their placement. The women's league does the same.

If the men get a bigger payout for losing than the women get for winning, that's on FIFA, not USSF.