Current Events > Quentin Tarantino likes to use "that word" a lot.

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I dont get it. Like for movies such as django and hateful eight, I guess I can see it, but reservoir dogs and pulp fiction?
Maybe Im just old-fashioned, but I was brought up not to say that word.

You mean the blantanly racist dude is racist?
wow

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a26454543/samuel-l-jackson-captain-marvel-interview-2019

What do you think about all the controversy surrounding Quentin Tarantinos use of the n-word in that movie?
Its some bullshit.

All of it?
Of course it is. When we did Pulp, I warned Quentin about the whole n***** storage. I was like, Dont say n***** storage. Hes like, No, Im going to say it like that. And we tried to soften it by making his wife black, because that wasnt originally written. . . . But you cant just tell a writer he cant talk, write the words, put the words in the mouths of the people from their ethnicities, the way that they use their words. You cannot do that, because then it becomes an untruth; its not honest. Its just not honest. And half the time, too, there are other ways. And I generally add like at least five n****s to what Quentin has already written, just because Im talking. I mean, that one sentence to Chris Tucker [in Jackie Brown]: I hate to be the kind of n**** that do a n**** a favor and then bam hit the n**** up for a favor in return, but I gots to be that kind of n****. Its just one sentence. Its like boom. But wouldnt Ordell say that?

I need to watch his BET interview again.

Supposedly in Tarantino's movie universe, he writes everyone as "equals" so white people can also use the "N" word. But we all know that is just an excuse so he can use it lol.

Yeah pulp fiction was just horrible. He enters to movie just so he can say 50 times with a black man not even doing anything to because it. I know Sam Jackson needs work but dammit man have some self respect .

Yeah, Reservoir Dogs had that scene in the car with White, Pink, Orange, and Eddie, a line like: "You're acting like a bunch of...", and Eddie making a racist jail joke towards Blonde. Yeah, criminals/gangsters are usually going to be bigoted and other movies have had characters like that be racist and use that word, but when you notice the pattern with Tarantino it says something. Pulp Fiction has the scene mentioned and Zed's partner using the word and Lance as well. Multiple times a movie with this guy.

Denzel called him out on it for his Crimson Tide rewrites.

Would loved to have been on set to see that.

Leo wanted to back out of django but jamie told him its ok.

It's the setting...

cjsdowg posted...

50 times with a black man not even doing anything to because it.

What

Kurt_Russel posted...

I dont get it. Like for movies such as django and hateful eight, I guess I can see it, but reservoir dogs and pulp fiction?
Maybe Im just old-fashioned, but I was brought up not to say that word.

What the fuck? Then don't say it. It's rather simple.

I'm more concerned where he actively uses his control to live out his unilateral, gruesome wet-dream fantasies to the women in his movies.

For starters:

Weird foot-fetish? Check
Choking women with his own hands with life-threatening force? Fucking check.

Yet nobody bats an eye on this, all because it's under the guise of the director's artistic vision. I don't buy it.

I don't think he is racist

If he think he is racist think I have to think all the black actors he has worked with are a bunch of punks

which I know they aren't

I have seen interviews with them

The thing is that basically none of his characters (or at least the one that say it a lot) are very redeemable people.

He is basically trying to show how lowlifes and criminals talk. I'm not a criminal, but I used to hang around a lot of them during my active addiction, and I was raised around some, and they do curse and say slurs a lot.

Also as far as the Pulp Fiction thing, I think he just wanted to piss Spike Lee off by playing the part of Jimmy, because if I'm not mistaken Spike Lee already came after him for Reservoir Dogs. But the Dead n storage scene I thought was good because it shows how pissed at Jules he is for bringing a dead body to his house that a little ass white dude would disrespect a cold blooded killer that came in there with blood and brains all over him. It's pretty well written imo.

the 90s was a different time there was a lot more racial harmony compared to the modern era

Usage of the N-word is the last "issue" I'd ever have with Pulp Fiction. The movie is a classic and had a super interesting plot design. But I got scarred from one of the segments so I'll never watch that movie again.

Bad guys use bad words? No way! Horrible! I want murders in films to be really nice people who never say anything offensive.

>racist guy live on a talk show does a racist rendition of how a black man talks with his 'black guy voice'
>he's not racist guise I swear

RealityDose posted...

>racist guy live on a talk show does a racist rendition of how a black man talks with his 'black guy voice'
>he's not racist guise I swear

then why do anti racist people work with him?

zammox posted...

the 90s was a different time there was a lot more racial harmony compared to the modern era

I would argue the opposite. The whole BLM thing yeah, but look how many white people support BLM.

I work in schools with a lot of black and white kids together and the clicks of kids are way less segregated now (I'm in Alabama btw where CE thinks everyone is racist). Also there are a lot more black/white mixed kids now, because my generation was a lot less racist than the generation before it.

You just let the media play like there are neo Nazis everywhere now all of the sudden because of the internet. But maybe it is just where I live, but like I said, I live where people say racism is the worst (and it still is a problem, just not as bad as it used to be in the Rodney king and crack era of the 80s and 90s)

Is the internet bored again? Is it time again to make up wild accusations?

Imagine being offended over a word lol.

His movies don't shy away from being honest. Showing lowlife's the way they are. And that is not necessarily a reflection on him. If Sam Jackson, who has worked with him on so many movies now, felt that he really was this hateful racist dude, I doubt he would still be in his movies.

Clearly you don't get out much or spend much time in game chats and stuff. People say plenty slurs at random when they think it's fine.

I've known a British guy on xbox over a decade now. Still says the N word at random when I am in parties with him. He apologizes, but still does it. To some people it's just a thing to say. He also throws around other slurs too, like "paki".

To him it's a joke, calling people slurs when they clearly aren't even that race.

Feet?

zammox posted...

the 90s was a different time there was a lot more racial harmony compared to the modern era

Confirmed not alive in the 90s

he's most likely racist on some level.

he's probably used the n-word most out of all directors across his movies.

people like to dismiss it as "art", fiction, etc., but art is an expression of one's self in some capacity, that you often share with others, to some extent.

just because Sam Jackson or Jamie Foxx give him a pass, it doesn't mean anything as different people have different thresholds for stuff, especially when they're getting paid well.

He was probably going for the shock value. I doubt hes a racist or non-white actors probably wouldnt want to work with him.

But then again, Ive never met the guy.

I think Quentin Tarantino has an obsession with the concept of taboo.

If a character in a movie of his was going to call a woman the c-word and someone told him not to, he would likely fit that word into every conceivable script he could. I don't think it's in a "don't tell me what to do" sort of way either. More an exploration of why it's unacceptable and how he might find a way to make it acceptable in context.

Yeah Im sure hes super racist its not like he and Sam Jackson, Jamie Fox, Pam Grier and Phil LaMar are friends or anything

I dont think they would all be friends with some racist white dude lol

Movies with rape and murder: fine
movies with rape and murder that use racist terms: not fine

MICHALECOLE posted...

Movies with rape and murder: fine
movies with rape and murder that use racist terms: not fine

I didn't argue that
I presented his actions during an interview as to why he is racist

I personally couldn't give a fuck what sort of 'art' he creates.

AmishDoinks420 posted...

I need to watch his BET interview again.

Pretty much explains why, he thinks black people are cool and wants to show he is down or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNoqexybDiA

It's pretty cringe but I don't really care that much. It is kinda funny that the weakest parts of Tarantino's movies involve himself acting,.

Django is a pretty bizarre plot for a racist to create.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Movies with rape and murder: fine
movies with rape and murder that use racist terms: not fine

Mainstream movies seldom use rape gratuitously anymore.

That's one improvement we've made in the past decade.

doomcrusader posted...

Django is a pretty bizarre plot for a racist to create.

I wasn't going to go here, but now I will.

Dr. Schultz is in the Lone Ranger position and Django has to play Tonto in his own film.

He does inherit the film in the last half-hour, but that doesn't change the fact that Schultz got the more memorable dialogue, led the partnership, and drove the film until his demise. Also, he stole the most shocking moment of the film.

It gets an A as an action movie, but I'd give it a C- for empowerment.

FortuneCookie posted...

Mainstream movies seldom use rape gratuitously anymore.

That's one improvement we've made in the past decade.

I cant think of many movies that use rape gratuitously besides like.. 40 days and 40 nights

SSJPurple posted...

Yeah Im sure hes super racist its not like he and Sam Jackson, Jamie Fox, Pam Grier and Phil LaMar are friends or anything

I dont think they would all be friends with some racist white dude lol

it happens all the time.

people sometimes even date, and even marry, those whose group(s) they're racist against.

people make exceptions all the time.

FortuneCookie posted...

I wasn't going to go here, but now I will.

Dr. Schultz is in the Lone Ranger position and Django has to play Tonto in his own film.

He does inherit the film in the last half-hour, but that doesn't change the fact that Schultz got the more memorable dialogue, led the partnership, and drove the film until his demise. Also, he stole the most shocking moment of the film.

It gets an A as an action movie, but I'd give it a C- for empowerment.

Was this movie written for empowerment, or was it telling a story, and thats how the story went?

MICHALECOLE posted...

I cant think of many movies that use rape gratuitously besides like.. 40 days and 40 nights

300: Rise of an Empire is the last example I can think of. It seemed to exist because they couldn't envision a motivation for a woman to be lethal beyond her being raped.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Was this movie written for empowerment, or was it telling a story, and thats how the story went?

It was supposed to be a Black empowerment film.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Was this movie written for empowerment, or was it telling a story, and thats how the story went?

It's great how you literally avoided a reality where he was proven to be racist

I suppose at the end of the day fans of his work would defend him regardless of him actually being racist.

What makes it gratuitous and not just.. part of the story? Was the rape in clerks gratuitous? Or a clockwork orange? Or pulp fiction?

RealityDose posted...

It's great how you literally avoided a reality where he was proven to be racist

I suppose at the end of the day fans of his work would defend him regardless of him actually being racist.

He was proven to be racist?

MICHALECOLE posted...

He was proven to be racist?

see here's the problem
I link the interview and I get my ass suspended because it's how the site rolls
but at the end of the day if you have a 'black guy voice' impression then you're being racist. no ifs. no buts. no nuts in the face of a candy cane.

FortuneCookie posted...

I think Quentin Tarantino has an obsession with the concept of taboo.

If a character in a movie of his was going to call a woman the c-word and someone told him not to, he would likely fit that word into every conceivable script he could. I don't think it's in a "don't tell me what to do" sort of way either. More an exploration of why it's unacceptable and how he might find a way to make it acceptable in context.

Honestly, this is probably the more reasonable answer. I don't think he's racist or sexist, it's just that he likes to do the taboo and will fit it into the script somehow. Whether it is in good taste or not is up to you.

If you have a black guy voice youre racist?

this is strange thinking

MICHALECOLE posted...

If you have a black guy voice youre racist?

this is strange thinking

what?