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ZannoL
05/01/22 4:58:27 PM
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Do you agree that marketing has a powerful effect on how people see themselves? Men must eat meat to be men! Women must eat candy and ice cream to be feminine!


https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/a39682970/arnold-schwarzenegger-protein-shake-salad-plant-based-diet/

Arnold Schwarzenegger has adopted a largely plant-based diet in recent years, espousing the benefits on both a personal health and fitness level, and environmentally. And while he is "not 100 percent vegan," and may still eat meat occasionally, the seven-time Mr. Olympia winner does not subscribe to the idea that you need to be eating chicken or beef to see gainsor be a man.

"Theres no one that can relate to it better than I do because Ive lived in that world," Schwarzenegger said in the 2019 documentary The Game Changers, which explores the rise in veganism in strength sports. "'Steak is for men'... They show these commercialsburgers, George Foreman with the grill and epic sandwichthis is great, great marketing for the meat industry, selling the idea that real men eat meat. But youve got to understand, its marketing. Its not based on reality."

In the latest edition of his newsletter, Schwarzenegger responded to a fan asking about some of his favorite "go-to" plant-based meals, and offered up two tasty-sounding suggestions.

"Every night I eat a cucumber salad with pumpkin seed oil and a vegetable soup," he wrote. "Pumpkin seed oil is a huge deal in Styria, the state in Austria where I was born. And it is delicious."

He then explained that after a training session, he tends to stick to the same post-workout protein smoothie. Schwarzenegger shares the full shake recipe in the YouTube video below, mixing cherry juice, banana, vanilla-flavored plant-based protein from Ladder, and water. Then, on some occasions, Schwarzenegger will add his own special ingredient: "A little schnapps, directly from Austria."
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TendoDRM
05/01/22 4:59:39 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Women must eat candy and ice cream to be feminine!

What?

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Forest_Temple
05/01/22 5:00:39 PM
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Na-nani?!

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SSJPurple
05/01/22 5:00:48 PM
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Na thats stupid as shit and I eat meat.

What other people eat or do not eat is their business and I dont think any less or more of them based on their diet

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ZannoL
05/01/22 5:01:05 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
What?
Do you not see candy and ice cream commercials? They predominantly feature women.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/01/22 5:01:44 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Do you not see candy and ice cream commercials?
who watches TV?

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kage_53
05/01/22 5:01:54 PM
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Tag checks out
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ZannoL
05/01/22 5:02:55 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
who watches TV?
Commercials and ads are limited to tv?
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TendoDRM
05/01/22 5:04:16 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Do you not see candy and ice cream commercials? They predominantly feature women.

What's a commercial?

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Irony
05/01/22 5:04:37 PM
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What's an ad?

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/01/22 5:05:35 PM
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I watch the new Matrix movie this morning, so this hits different.

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SauI_Goodman
05/01/22 5:09:41 PM
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https://youtu.be/TJihKu_nMco

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viewmaster_pi
05/01/22 5:09:47 PM
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what's ice cream

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ZannoL
05/01/22 5:09:55 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I watch the new Matrix movie this morning, so this hits different.
Was it good?
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AsucaHayashi
05/01/22 5:11:55 PM
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marketing wouldn't be a billion dollar industry if it didn't have an effect on people.

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ThyCorndog
05/01/22 5:12:10 PM
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eating meat is seen as a manly thing cause of marketing for sure. there's nothing inherently masculine about it

never heard of the candy thing tho

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Solo_Wing
05/01/22 5:13:11 PM
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Fellas, is it gay to eat ice cream?

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JuanCarlos1
05/01/22 5:14:29 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Na thats stupid as shit and I eat meat.

What other people eat or do not eat is their business and I dont think any less or more of them based on their diet


I dont judge them, but eating meat is one of the worst things you can do for the environment and sustainability of food.

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Awards
05/01/22 5:15:00 PM
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Gender roles fucking suck.
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Gamerguymass
05/01/22 5:19:05 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
eating meat is seen as a manly thing cause of marketing for sure. there's nothing inherently masculine about it

never heard of the candy thing tho

Or the fact that it's the best source of protein you can get of which men need more of it to help maintain higher muscle masses. It also helps produce testosterone in those who lift weights.

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Dathrowed1
05/01/22 5:19:38 PM
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If I want to do a vegan propaganda topic, I'd probably not do a man who was on PEDs and eating fried chicken after his bodybuilding comp

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ThyCorndog
05/01/22 5:23:44 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Or the fact that it's the best source of protein you can get of which men need more of it to help maintain higher muscle masses. It also helps produce testosterone in those who lift weights.
meat is a very good source of protein, yes, but people over-eat on their protein requirements in general. it's not required in the amounts we eat and people who don't eat a lot (or any) meat still get enough protein. as a general rule, if you're getting enough calories, you're getting enough protein. if you think you need a shit load of protein then that's an example of how powerful marketing is

also it's not particularly good for testosterone compared to a lot of other foods. a lot of plants are even better for testosterone. again, in general, if you're getting all your nutrients then you're going to be fine

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Kloe_Rinz
05/01/22 5:24:24 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Commercials and ads are limited to tv?
Yes?
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Mr_Mushroom
05/01/22 5:27:29 PM
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uhh, no thanks. those 6 dollar rotisserie chickens from krogers aren't gonna eat themselves.

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kage_53
05/01/22 5:28:08 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
I dont judge them, but eating meat is one of the worst things you can do for the environment and sustainability of food.
Youre assuming that veganism is good for the environment when its not really especially if you eat nuts and avacados.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200211-why-the-vegan-diet-is-not-always-green
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Mr_Mushroom
05/01/22 5:29:59 PM
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kage_53 posted...
avacados
keep avocados out of this. they're neutral.

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Forest_Temple
05/01/22 5:30:41 PM
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TC I got some meat for you

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SauI_Goodman
05/01/22 5:37:23 PM
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Just eat a bunch of eggs. Toss half of the yolks tho and eat only the whites.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/01/22 5:46:08 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Was it good?
I thought it was very good. If I had to sum it up in a few words, it was a very warm movie compared to the original trilogy, which is quite cold. As much as the original movie appeal to my edgy teenage self at the time, the new movie appeals to the weary side of me which wants something optimistic and empowering. The only real criticism I have is it the action scenes were kind of basic. You obviously can't beat Woo Ping Yuen. And it's a real pity, because Woo Ping Yuen's best movies as a director are much lighter than the original Matrix, just as this movie is much lighter than the original Matrix.

Visually speaking, aside from the action scenes, I might prefer this one even to the original. It's very sharp and colorful, without losing a sense of texture. And a lot of things that people don't like about the movie, besides the action scenes, I was quite fond of. The early portion of the movie is quite meta, and very cheeky at that, and a lot of people get hung up on it, but I think the rest of the movie refutes much cynicism or cheapness associated with that, and it has the strongest storytelling since the first.

If the action scenes were better, I would like it more than the original, and consider it an ideal sequel and reboot.

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opopopza
05/01/22 5:53:57 PM
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kage_53 posted...
Youre assuming that veganism is good for the environment when its not really especially if you eat nuts and avacados.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200211-why-the-vegan-diet-is-not-always-green
I mean, the article literally states that red meat is horrible for the environment. Yeah, some veggies and nuts are also not great. But compared to meat, they in general do have much less impact.

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yemmy
05/01/22 6:00:05 PM
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Solo_Wing posted...
Fellas, is it gay to eat ice cream?

No but there's definitely a gay way to eat ice cream and glizzies

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Michael_Booth
05/01/22 6:06:22 PM
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Tuna's better than Beef protein wise (and better if you're looking for gains) -- just a shame about the old Mercury.
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Arcanine2009
05/01/22 6:19:59 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
eating meat is seen as a manly thing cause of marketing for sure. there's nothing inherently masculine about it

never heard of the candy thing tho
I mean, in hunter gatherers, men would hunt for meat

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Michael_Booth
05/01/22 6:32:59 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
I mean, in hunter gatherers, men would hunt for meat

This is a Myth, men "mostly" hunted, and women "mostly" gathered -- but this was not a strict rule.
It would depend (on the society), if a woman could not bear children (or did not have a partner) and was fast enough she'd be hunting, and the men who were injured (perhaps from a young age) would gather. This was the consensus even in 1966 -- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-020-09375-4
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Unknown5uspect
05/01/22 6:40:13 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Or the fact that it's the best source of protein you can get of which men need more of it to help maintain higher muscle masses. It also helps produce testosterone in those who lift weights.
This is your brain on marketing

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DocileOrangeCup
05/01/22 6:42:14 PM
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Man Arnold is so cool

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257Loner
05/01/22 6:44:52 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
Man Arnold is so cool


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cjsdowg
05/01/22 6:46:33 PM
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Kind of messed up he just calling out George Foreman like that.

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ThyCorndog
05/01/22 6:55:18 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
I mean, in hunter gatherers, men would hunt for meat
most stuff you hear about hunter gatherers is bro science and not based on reality

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Gamerguymass
05/01/22 7:04:55 PM
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Michael_Booth posted...
This is a Myth, men "mostly" hunted, and women "mostly" gathered -- but this was not a strict rule.
It would depend (on the society), if a woman could not bear children (or did not have a partner) and was fast enough she'd be hunting, and the men who were injured (perhaps from a young age) would gather. This was the consensus even in 1966 -- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-020-09375-4

This isn't the evidence you think it is. It's about two modern societies that still do hunting and gathering in 20/21st century. When people say hunter gatherers they are talking about pre-human civilization dating back hundreds of thousands of years. Our ancestors, not people who are still alive today.

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TheShadowViper
05/01/22 7:05:44 PM
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I mean this is a little misleading given that Schwarzenegger is in his 70s and when he was in his prime he ate a shit ton of meat and something like 15 eggs a day.

I doubt he could have maintained the necessary protein without meat when he was in his prime.
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Duncanwii
05/01/22 7:06:08 PM
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I don't eat meat because it's manly, I eat it because it's tasty!

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Perksurx
05/01/22 7:13:19 PM
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I seem to have skipped over the part where Arnie admits he doesn't eat this food voluntarily, but is forced to eat a low-carb, low-fat diet as he decimated his body with drugs and the slightest build up of cholesterol in an artery will cause his heart to explode.

C'mon, Arnold...die like a man and Terminate a steak!

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Michael_Booth
05/01/22 7:20:37 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
This isn't the evidence you think it is. It's about two modern societies that still do hunting and gathering in 20/21st century. When people say hunter gatherers they are talking about pre-human civilization dating back hundreds of thousands of years. Our ancestors, not people who are still alive today.

You better inform Dictionary.com, then: "a member of a group of people who subsist by hunting, fishing, or foraging in the wild."
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hunter-gatherer

Anyway, since you said my link was too modern, here I give you 9000 years ago -- "plausible models range between 30 and 50% female participation, suggesting that early big-game hunting was likely gender neutral or nearly so" - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abd0310
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Kloe_Rinz
05/01/22 8:48:17 PM
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Michael_Booth posted...
This is a Myth, men "mostly" hunted, and women "mostly" gathered -- but this was not a strict rule.
It would depend (on the society), if a woman could not bear children (or did not have a partner) and was fast enough she'd be hunting, and the men who were injured (perhaps from a young age) would gather. This was the consensus even in 1966 -- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-020-09375-4
Thats not exactly myth status. The general trend is there
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Arcanine2009
05/01/22 10:35:16 PM
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Michael_Booth posted...
This is a Myth, men "mostly" hunted, and women "mostly" gathered -- but this was not a strict rule.
It would depend (on the society), if a woman could not bear children (or did not have a partner) and was fast enough she'd be hunting, and the men who were injured (perhaps from a young age) would gather. This was the consensus even in 1966 -- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-020-09375-4
I didn't say anything about women. Men are known for hunting in most hunter gatherer societies.

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AablMind
05/01/22 11:06:43 PM
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Im not gonna get 150g of protein a day unless I eat some meat.

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Gobstoppers12
05/01/22 11:09:10 PM
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I eat meat because it tastes amazing. I think all people should eat meat, man or woman.

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