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Wanted to get a new Samsung. I'm still very miffed at the removal of headphone jack from new phones, and that's not getting into all the other inconvenient shit that phone companies pull nowadays.

Because of the lack of physical menu button and bezel space, my phone now has permanent screen burn-in. Which they did all for a tiny extension of the screen that I could do without.

My current phone's approaching 4 years now and it's showing signs of Samsung's typical planned obsolescence with buggy slowdown and problems but while the new galaxy has a really nice green color, I can't get over them just removing features and my paying more for less.

The removal of the 3.5mm jack is still incredibly frustrating, I agree.

meestermj posted...

The removal of the 3.5mm jack is still incredibly frustrating, I agree.

Yep

I ended up buying a dongle so I could still use my wired headphones with my S22 Ultra

MrKapowski posted...

Yep

I ended up buying a dongle so I could still use my wired headphones with my S22 Ultra

I need to buy a dongle.
Wireless buds are nice, but over ear hits different.
And I refuse to give up my skull crushers.

I didnt know Samsung does that stuff, too. Apple removed the headphone jack years ago and I had to start using wireless. They made a power move to try to make me buy AirPods, but I got another type which I like more.

If theyre going to remove the headphone jack and sell the phone for such a high price, why does it not include a free pair of ear buds.

You get used to it like in the first day of use

Payzmaykr posted...

If theyre going to remove the headphone jack and sell the phone for such a high price, why does it not include a free pair of ear buds.

Samsung come with a small pair of USB c ear buds.
They crap though.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

You get used to it like in the first day of use

Had my S20+ since it came out, still mad about it.

Next they're going to be removing the damn charger. Sure at least with samsung they use usb - c instead of the proprietary apple stuff, but it's still no excuse for such scummy business practices that people worldwide just openly accept

I personally dont care. The only time I use my phone for music is out and about, and thats prime time to use wireless earphones regardless. If Im in a scenario where Id benefit from wired headphones, Im not using my phone. And if I were, Id be using a fiio Bluetooth dac/amp anyway

My S9 still works great. It isn't slow and I don't have burn in.

Don't get a Samsung.

What's your budget?

Sony Xperia is the best premium Android

Tyranthraxus posted...

Don't get a Samsung.

What's your budget?

Limitless, spare no expense. I just want the best quality for the longest time. I get a new phone like once every 4 years, and want to push it for more than that.

You can get a portable sport MP3 player w/headphone out and Bluetooth and I do. It is made by rca. You want sport versions.

saspa posted...

Limitless, spare no expense. I just want the best quality for the longest time. I get a new phone like once every 4 years, and want to push it for more than that.

Need to wait for reviews to come in to be sure but ASUS ROG Phone 6 releases later this year and every single previous ROG Phone has debuted with the best snapdragon available and consistently ranked #1 in battery life for Android phones. Also, the current ROG Phone still has an aux jack and there's no reason to suspect it will be removed for RPG Phone 6.

If you need a phone right now, the most recent ROG Phone is the 5s.

Runs on AT&T and T-Mobile

Never cared for the removal of the jack. Got myself a pair of Galaxy Buds Live to pair with my Note and have no complaints.

Ended up putting in an order for one of those cringe gamer phones

(if only because it has a headphone jack and is somehow cheaper than the big brand flagships despite having stronger specs >_>)

GeraldDarko posted...

My S9 still works great. It isn't slow and I don't have burn in.

Same. Its my second s9 since my cat smashed the other one.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Need to wait for reviews to come in to be sure but ASUS ROG Phone 6 releases later this year and every single previous ROG Phone has debuted with the best snapdragon available and consistently ranked #1 in battery life for Android phones. Also, the current ROG Phone still has an aux jack and there's no reason to suspect it will be removed for RPG Phone 6.

there's also the zenfone 8 which is probably the only good compact android phone on the market unless you're willing to spend 300-400 more for a Sony phone.

saspa posted...

Wanted to get a new Samsung. I'm still very miffed at the removal of headphone jack from new phones, and that's not getting into all the other inconvenient shit that phone companies pull nowadays.

Because of the lack of physical menu button and bezel space, my phone now has permanent screen burn-in. Which they did all for a tiny extension of the screen that I could do without.

My current phone's approaching 4 years now and it's showing signs of Samsung's typical planned obsolescence with buggy slowdown and problems but while the new galaxy has a really nice green color, I can't get over them just removing features and my paying more for less.

I have an s10 with a protection plan...already received 2 replacements. Gonna be rocking s10 until they run out of ones to give me

Tyranthraxus posted...

Need to wait for reviews to come in to be sure but ASUS ROG Phone 6 releases later this year and every single previous ROG Phone has debuted with the best snapdragon available and consistently ranked #1 in battery life for Android phones. Also, the current ROG Phone still has an aux jack and there's no reason to suspect it will be removed for RPG Phone 6.

If you need a phone right now, the most recent ROG Phone is the 5s.

Runs on AT&T and T-Mobile

But... isn't that for gaming phone. What about for actual phone use and performance?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Need to wait for reviews to come in to be sure but ASUS ROG Phone 6 releases later this year and every single previous ROG Phone has debuted with the best snapdragon available and consistently ranked #1 in battery life for Android phones. Also, the current ROG Phone still has an aux jack and there's no reason to suspect it will be removed for RPG Phone 6.

If you need a phone right now, the most recent ROG Phone is the 5s.

Runs on AT&T and T-Mobile

Ended up putting in an order for the RedMagic 7 Pro

Slightly better specs than the current ROG Phone (and the ROG 5S has a critical design flaw in the placement of its two batteries where the thing can easily snap)

and I didn't want to wait for the new release lol >_>

They don't seem to have a physical button so... why are they better?

saspa posted...

Next they're going to be removing the damn charger. Sure at least with samsung they use usb - c instead of the proprietary apple stuff, but it's still no excuse for such scummy business practices that people worldwide just openly accept

Yeah, that's why this stuff happens. Unless the sales slow down then this is where we are.

Samsung: "Hey. Remember when Apple removed the headphone jack and everyone made fun of them for it? We should do that."

People complaining about head phone jack always crack me up. Bluetooth is much better anyway more mobility and ear buds stay alive longer since they have less connected wires. They are just not open to new technology.

Maninstagnate posted...

People complaining about head phone jack always crack me up. Bluetooth is much better anyway more mobility and ear buds stay alive longer since they have less connected wires. They are just not open to new technology.

Wired gives much higher sound quality.
Much.
Not to mention convenience of not having to charge, and not having to worry about signal interference.

But how do you get burn-in on your phone?

My ideal phone would be physical buttons for the home, the back button, and the menu button, and I'd be fine with the phone being touch screen for the rest of it.

wackyteen posted...

But how do you get burn-in on your phone?

It ties into the lack of a physical button for the home and general navigation bar. Making it part of the screen is the most infuriatingly idiotic thing ever:

https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/66/87/63629227498480/0/galaxy-s8s-are-experiencing-screen-burn-its-not-just-home-button.w1456.jpg

See instead of dedicating that 1 mm of space for a bezel to put the navigation menu on, Samsung opted to make it part of the screen like so:

https://i.imgur.com/V5MzHKq.jpg

This basically means you either deal with having no menu on the phone, or have it be permanently burned in because needing to do a swipe motion just to click back or menu is a step backwards

How long do you leave your phone on, and doing what? The nav buttons don't show if you're watching a video or playing a game. And I don't think I've ever seen a phone that had all 3 buttons be physical.

Have had my S8 for years and years. Im happy with it. The old girl still runs smooth, no damage, headphone jack still works.

Same, but it's been enough years now that I'm definitely worried about how much longer she'll hold up

Don't miss the 3.5mm Jack at all. I'd rather they remove old relics of the past to enable improving battery life and better screen tech.

My galaxy bud pros might not be as good as my Sennheisers I use at my PC, but they're more convenient and I don't have to deal with a cable.

Also the onscreen nav buttons should not be causing burn in, that's a defective unit or defective user

Burn-in means your display is cranked up to max brightness 100% of the time with a screen timeout of 10 minutes.

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Burn-in means your display is cranked up to max brightness 100% of the time with a screen timeout of 10 minutes.

Fr. It should not be possible to achieve burn in on a modern smartphone display under anything but extreme circumstances.

imagine having wired headphones in 2022

do you still use a fax machine too grandpa?

hold on, why dont you call me on our homephone that uses a rotary to dial

*hops in Tesla*

LMAO TC

*drives off, emission free*

I mean if you care about the maximum audio quality wired headphones are a must.

I'm not going to use wired for on the go though.

My Galaxy Buds Live get the job done. Wired ones might be better, but I don't care enough to want to know.

How do you have screen burn in because of no physical button? The gesture icons can be hidden on Android phones.

Samsung phones get a lot better once you permanently toggle off the Bixby button.

K181 posted...

Samsung phones get a lot better once you permanently toggle off the Bixby button.

That's another thing that's definitely annoying, dedicating an entire button to that ridiculous thing instead of having a physical home button. I was gonna attempt to root the phone or whatever to make the bixby button a flashlight toggle, but never did

Apple and Samsung are not your only options.

My current / last 3 phones have been Oppo, Xiaomi, Blackview and Meizu. The Blackview was absolute shit, but the others are/were all pretty good, for a fraction of what Samsung or Apple would cost.

The choices are basically between a South Korean military weapons manufacturer and some outfit operating out of China.

MrMallard posted...

The choices are basically between a South Korean military weapons manufacturer and some outfit operating out of China.

Weapons manufacturers usually get good funding and have some of the most educated employees. No wonder they have quality electronics.

This is actually why I buy the cheap Motorola phones. Acceptable screen size, headphone jacks, good enough performance. Might be missing top end features but shit, has most of what I want for like between 100 and 250USD.

Good god. Motorola phones still around? I think I still have one of their phones from 20 years ago... it probably still works if I bust it out too