Current Events > Some of the political proposals after the riots in Sweden.

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* Increase the police ability to use lethal force.

* Rescind citizenship and residency permits for immigrants who commit a crime.

* Make it legal to deport an entire family if one family member commit a crime.

* Make asocial behaviour a cause for deportation.

* Make it legal to use the military against immigrants who riot.

I have yet to see a lot of criticism against the proposals. Paludan got exactly what he wanted.

BalanceLost posted...

Paludan got exactly what he wanted.

Yeah, exactly this. It's depressing to see how these types of suggestions more or less dominate public debate.

BalanceLost posted...

* Make it legal to deport an entire family if one family member commit a crime.

The fuck

scar the 1 posted...

Yeah, exactly this. It's depressing to see how these types of suggestions more or less dominate public debate.

Even Vnsterpartiet (the Far-Left) refused to comment on the 30-point proposal from Sverigedemokraterna (Nationalists).

tbh a lot of it makes sense(not all of it tho) given that it also comes at the heels of years of gang violence involving a lot of "cough cough".

the crux of it is that it has also been insanely easy to get into sweden... the appropriate response to that is that it should also have been easy to get kicked out, something they finally seem to be dealing with.

in something like denmark the opposite is happening, incredibly hard to get in but incredibly easy to get kicked out.

Fuck Sweden and fuck religion

Make it legal to use the military against immigrants who riot.

It should be an option for the most extreme cases. If a riot is is threatening crtical infastructure(I.E a water treatment plant, hospital or something) or is resulting in a lot of deaths sure...but specifying immigrants is pretty obvious racism.

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Thats the point. It means whatever they want it to.

BalanceLost posted...

Even Vnsterpartiet (the Far-Left) refused to comment on the 30-point proposal from Sverigedemokraterna (Nationalists).

They seem terrified of being villified as "condoning the riots" and it's very sad.

BalanceLost posted...

* Make it legal to deport an entire family if one family member commit a crime.

What the fuck?

BalanceLost posted...

* Make asocial behaviour a cause for deportation.

What the fuck?

BalanceLost posted...

* Make it legal to use the military against immigrants who riot.

What the fuck?

BalanceLost posted...

* Increase the police ability to use lethal force.

Ehhhhh

BalanceLost posted...

* Rescind citizenship and residency permits for immigrants who commit a crime.

Fair. Kind of surprised you didn't have that already.

BalanceLost posted...

* Rescind citizenship and residency permits for immigrants who commit a crime.

Honestly the only reasonable suggestion

DeadBankerDream posted...

Fair. Kind of surprised you didn't have that already.

Temporary residency can be rescinded AFAIK. But when it's permanent, in some sense the idea is (or at least my take is) that you're a part of society, and thus should be treated as part of society, for good and for bad. There's a big risk of opening the door for legally second-grade citizens if you start tampering with this. Especially when it comes to citizenship. But even permanent residents have the right to vote in local elections etc, and they've generally been contributing to society for many years to even get granted PR in the first place.

Whether you agree with harsher deportation or not is one thing

but how can anyone justify deporting an entire family for the actions of an individual?

UnfairRepresent posted...

Whether you agree with harsher deportation or not is one thing

but how can anyone justify deporting an entire family for the actions of an individual?

It's easy, the people who proposed it are neo-Nazis who want foreigners/Muslims out of the country no matter what.

There are tougher immigration and crime proposals I agree with, but yeah it is absolute insanity with collective punishment proposals and proposals fueled by blood thirst. That is textbok fascism.

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pikachupwnage posted...

Thats the point. It means whatever they want it to.

Exactly. The vagueness is the point.

Christian Democratic leader Ebba Busch yesterday asked why the police didnt shoot more people during the riots. When she got heavy criticism including from the police she did her typical I am being misinterpreted. Busch is like a US Republican these days. Horrible woman.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samhalle/a/34b2Ev/busch-har-gjort-bort-sig

Called it

BalanceLost posted...

* Rescind citizenship and residency permits for immigrants who commit a crime.

Permit? Sure. Citizenship, yikes

i mean, you can't let the rioters (in this case, muslims) get away scot-free for destroying public and private property for no reason. one of these fuckers set a public transit bus on fire with the passengers and driver in it

and the idea behind deporting the whole family is to get families to police themselves so that their kids won't do dumb shit like what happened over easter

BalanceLost posted...

There are tougher immigration and crime proposals I agree with, but yeah it is absolute insanity with collective punishment proposals and proposals fueled by blood thirst. That is textbok fascism.

Exactly. The vagueness is the point.

Christian Democratic leader Ebba Busch yesterday asked why the police didnt shoot more people during the riots. When she got heavy criticism including from the police she did her typical I am being misinterpreted. Busch is like a US Republican these days. Horrible woman.

Christian Democrat huh?

I am a bit rusty on the the Bible but I don't think Jesus ever said "Thou shalt love thy neighbor... unless they have brown skin or are poor then pump them full of lead with this kickass army rifle."

Maybe they got their Bible from Texas.

BalanceLost posted...

Christian Democratic leader Ebba Busch yesterday asked why the police didnt shoot more people during the riots. When she got heavy criticism including from the police she did her typical I am being misinterpreted. Busch is like a US Republican these days. Horrible woman.

Tying back to the other topic, this is why the right is so keen on labeling everyone as religious extremists. Then she can wish that more islamists were shot, when actually, the people on the streets were regular people. Many of them kids. Acting badly and recklessly yes, but still people.
She's truly a disgusting person.

HolierThanMao posted...

i mean, you can't let the rioters (in this case, muslims) get away scot-free for destroying public and private property for no reason. one of these fuckers set a public transit bus on fire with the passengers and driver in it

and the idea behind deporting the whole family is to get families to police themselves so that their kids won't do dumb shit like what happened over easter

And to give the state an excuse to kick out 5 or 6 of the brown people they don't like for the price of one

HolierThanMao posted...

i mean, you can't let the rioters (in this case, muslims) get away scot-free for destroying public and private property for no reason. one of these fuckers set a public transit bus on fire with the passengers and driver in it

and the idea behind deporting the whole family is to get families to police themselves so that their kids won't do dumb shit like what happened over easter

Psychopath post from ancient alt.

Europe is such a fucked up place

Nordic model lookin' kinda wack.

To solve these issues - I think it needs the "Milk Carton Rule", applied.