Board 8 > Great ace attorney chronicles is supposed to be good right

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I pretty much quit PW after Apollo because it was so meh to me...but I've heard good things about this one, I think. Is that accurate

i thought it was worthwhile but buyer beware - the first GAA game is comparable to apollo justice in quality but way longer. second game pays it off fantastically but you're looking at 30 hours of iffiness before that

the 3DS games are a better gauge to see if you're still interested in the franchise IMO

Good info, thanks...I am curious and I dont mind waiting for a high payoff so I think I'll check it out

Yeah the second game is where it's at. Probably better to think of them as one continuous and long story though.

I think the first game is better than AJ at least, but yeah the payoff is definitely in the second game.

I think it's ridiculously good. Aside from Elden Ring, it's probably the best game I've played in the last three years

Oh well it was the game I was going to jump on next after I finish elden ring so that's funny

Yeah, the first game is almost entirely a setup for the second game, so the cases might feel a bit unsatisfying as you play through it, but the payoff in the second game is worth the investment.

Parroting everyone else. I think I hate GAA1 more than the average player (the last case, which a lot of people think is the game's saving grace, I thought was insultingly bad), but GAA2 is arguably one of if not the best AA game and you can't play it without 1.

I don't think you should sleep on AA5 and 6 though, those games are excellent.

Yeah DD and SoJ deserve to be played. AJ is just trash

Nah, I think Case 3 is generally regarded as the highlight of the first game.

5 and 6 are marginal improvements of 4 at best

Yeah I'd be hard pressed to go back to anything that has Apollo Justice involved in the plot in any capacity so I'll just stick with these new ones

pjbasis posted...

5 and 6 are marginal improvements of 4 at best

Unless you're an AJ fanboy, this is a generally outlier opinion.

pjbasis posted...

5 and 6 are marginal improvements of 4 at best

Nah no way. Both games are better than 1 and 2 easy.

_stingers_ posted...

Yeah I'd be hard pressed to go back to anything that has Apollo Justice involved in the plot in any capacity so I'll just stick with these new ones

Too bad considering those games actually learned how to use him, which might be the most pleasant surprise of those two games.

Leonhart4 posted...

Too bad considering those games actually learned how to use him, which might be the most pleasant surprise of those two games.

AA6 is the real Apollo Justice game, ironically. 4 was...an unfortunate intro.

6-5 is honestly in contention for the best case in the series

hombad46 posted...

6-5 is honestly in contention for the best case in the series

That part when that foreboding music track slides in.

Legendary.

hombad46 posted...

6-5 is honestly in contention for the best case in the series

It's definitely the best post-OT case at the very least

Leonhart4 posted...

Unless you're an AJ fanboy, this is a generally outlier opinion.

I'm more like an OT fanboy, there's really not much point ranking the rest because they just can't compare.

GAA2 > 3 > AAI2 > 6 > 5 > 1 > 2 > GAA1 > 4 > AAI1

6 > 3 > GAA2 > 1 > LvW > 5 > 2 > AAI1 > GAA1 > 4

6 > G2 > 5 > 3 > I2 > 1 > I1 > 4 > 2 > G1

I need to replay GAA before I figure out where to slot them in the rankings

I never get sick of ranking AA games

3 > G2 > 1 > 6 > 2 > 5 > AAI2 > G1 > Layton > 4 > AAI1

I played it and I considered it one long story. Wife and I both absolutely loved it. Some fantastic characters in there. You'll enjoy it I'm sure.

6 and GAA2 are both great, top tier AA experiences, and it's worth playing 5 and GAA1 to get to them.

GAA1 sucks, but at least it has a charming cast and really good animations and music to kinda get you through it.

AA5 is a good palette cleanser for AA4 in my opinion - tries to get back to what the series does well, even if it ends up playing it a bit safe as a result. Not one of the better games but it's not bad.

But AA6 and GAA2 are both superb. You shouldn't let displeasure with AA4 turn you off from the rest of the series; it was a weird misstep that I don't think the series ever repeated. (Except maybe with AAI1, which also isn't great, but that game is ALSO worth getting through to get to AAI2, another great game)

3 > 6 > 2 > 1 > GAA2 >>> AAI2 >>> 5 >>> GAA1 > LvW > AAI1 >>> 4

I've cooled off a little bit on GAA2 but it still belongs in the top tier - I'm pretty strongly settled on the rest of the ranking, and those >>>'s are really necessary to put the correct amount of distance between GAA1 and GAA2 because they're only separated by two games but they're not close in my opinion at all

AJ is the only game in the series I'd overall say is "bad". I wouldn't say I have any problem with either AAI1 or with GAA1. GAA's 3rd and 5th cases are solid enough, and I actually like most of what AAI's epic case does. AAI2's final case was solid, but the final showdown was.... Very lacking. It's over in 15 minutes and you present the same piece of evidence half the time.

4-1 is a contender for best first case in the series, and it's all downhill from there.

4-2 is "ok"

4-3 I can at least respect that they were trying something different, but it still doesn't stop it from being in the argument for "bottom tier"

4-4 is without a doubt the worst epic case in the series. It starts alright, then falls off a cliff. What leads to Phoenix being disbarred is asinine given Phoenix himself could never have set it up on such short notice, making it obvious someone else set him up. Ir then gives you a convoluted investigation with the Mason System that plods along and takes a while to really feel like it gets anywhere. This all leads to the worst "payoff" of any case in the series. The black psyche-locks are never explained. Gavin's hatred and motives are never really explained. It just tells you "well this is what happened have a good day". It fundamentally fails as an epic case in almost every way. It feels like a case that sets up an epic case where you actually get answers to a lot of the lingering questions.

3 > AAI2 > 5 > 1 > 6 > GAA2 > 2 > GAA1 > AAI1 > L > 4

I2 through 6 are very close though and their order could change depending on how I'm feeling

I'm not as high on GAA2 as most (nor as down on G1) but it definitely has some very good stuff.

Paratroopa1 posted...

But AA6 and GAA2 are both superb. You shouldn't let displeasure with AA4 turn you off from the rest of the series; it was a weird misstep that I don't think the series ever repeated. (Except maybe with AAI1, which also isn't great, but that game is ALSO worth getting through to get to AAI2, another great game)

Interesting! I'd be lying if I said that all the love for 6 here wasn't making me reconsider my initial statement. My only problem now is that I don't have time to play all the games I already want to play lol. But the love I've seen here has convinced me to add 5 and 6 on the someday, if I retire early list...

DD is basically "wow people really didn't like AJ let's try to go back to what people loved about the OT" so it's essentially made for people like you

The fact that it took so long for another mainline game after AJ alone was their acknowledgement they ****ed up AJ.

People were practically calling the game non-canon when AAI/AAI2 were released next.

I genuinely thought the AA series was just fucking dead after AA4/AAI1 and that was it, the fact that it had such an amazing revival is sort of incredible

Dual Destinies is underrated. The prosecutor in that game is amazing.

I'm also in the big DD fanboy camp.

I adjusted my ranking a bit to account for personal bias since I know AA5 isn't as good as some of the other games really, but it's still #1 in my heart.

I still consider DD my second favorite AA game. I know it's a "safe" game and nothing monumental happens in terms of the overall storyline, but every case in the game (aside from 5-1) is good, and you can argue it has 4 top 15 caliber cases (although I guess I'll have to recalibrate the math to account for 10 new cases once I get around to a full ranking).

SeabassDebeste posted...

i thought it was worthwhile but buyer beware - the first GAA game is comparable to apollo justice in quality but way longer. second game pays it off fantastically but you're looking at 30 hours of iffiness before that

the 3DS games are a better gauge to see if you're still interested in the franchise IMO

IMO the first game is okay. Its main problem is just that Case 5 is very weak for a final case. Having the 2 games bundled together helps mitigate that.

Surprised to see a bunch of people in here calling GAA1 "iffy". I thought GAA1 was great, and GAA2 was REALLY great.

Honestly after following up AA4 with GAA1 I just figured Takumi had completely lost it. He'd become the Tomino of Ace Attorney.

Hell, there's a very strong chance I would not have played GAA2 at all if they had been sold seperately over here. I couldn't imagine going and paying money for GAA2 right after beating the first one.

Thankfully GAA2 completely turned it around.

Leonhart4 posted...

I still consider DD my second favorite AA game. I know it's a "safe" game and nothing monumental happens in terms of the overall storyline, but every case in the game (aside from 5-1) is good, and you can argue it has 4 top 15 caliber cases (although I guess I'll have to recalibrate the math to account for 10 new cases once I get around to a full ranking).

I would say this might apply to the third game, though it has the worst case between the two games.

I'm not a big fan of 5-1 or 5-2. 3-3 is an abomination, but the rest of 3 is all upper tier.

DireKrow posted...

Surprised to see a bunch of people in here calling GAA1 "iffy". I thought GAA1 was great, and GAA2 was REALLY great.

I thought GAA was solid but unspectacular, and the second game just built off of it.

So I'm also kind of surprised at the GAA hate.

5-2 and 3-3 are both great, but I also enjoy how unorthodox they are.

3-3 is a candidate for bottom 5 case in the entire series.

1-2 will probably always hold the crown, though. That case was so bad I had to be promised it would get better.

1-2 is also good

there are only a few truly bad cases in the series, it just so happens AJ has two of them

1-2 was bad enough to almost make me outright stop playing. It's unquestionably the bottom case of the entire series for me.

AJ's only really bad case was 4-3, though 4-4 certainly does it no favors.

1-2 can be beaten in a little over an hour and somehow still manages to have one of the most disappointing endings in the franchise.

It's a complete joke but at least it's over fast.

It's part of why I think AA1 gets more praise than it deserves, too. It's not like 1-3 is amazing either, and that one introduces one of the series worst characters who goes on to be a repeating staple (1-4 also did this, but 1-4 is, you know...really good).

1-3 is amazing and Oldbag is a real character in that case

1-3 is a case that improved quite a bit for me upon replay. If you pay attention, you'll see the case on day 3 is self aware that Powers is most likely innocent when Gumshoe tells Phoenix that the Prosecutor's Office has a few members who no longer believe in the case against him.

There's no way Edgeworth at that point in time would be willing to drop a case. It's only mid day 3 that he realizes who the culprit is and helps out Phoenix.

I really like the self awareness that I missed the first time through.

1-3 is pretty good and is the ur-text for turnabout cases for the rest of the series

if anything 1 is now underrated; there is no way in heck 6 is better (and I love 6)