Poll of the Day > Breath of the Wild 2 delayed to 2023

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papercup
03/29/22 10:42:10 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_vgseuw_o8

This game is never coming out lol

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T0ffee
03/29/22 10:42:54 AM
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Entity13
03/29/22 10:59:45 AM
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No it's coming out... in time for Nintendo's next system, for which it'll be ported, and the Switch version will only be on the store shelves for a couple weeks. So prepare your butts for Nintendo's new system in time for the holidays, 2023.

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SomeUsername529
03/29/22 11:09:54 AM
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Entity13 posted...
No it's coming out... in time for Nintendo's next system, for which it'll be ported, and the Switch version will only be on the store shelves for a couple weeks. So prepare your butts for Nintendo's new system in time for the holidays, 2023.
There is absolutely no way in hell Nintendo is releasing a successor to the Switch in Spring 2023. You're out of your mind if you seriously believe that.
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Dikitain
03/29/22 11:22:44 AM
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SomeUsername529 posted...
There is absolutely no way in hell Nintendo is releasing a successor to the Switch in Spring 2023. You're out of your mind if you seriously believe that.

It is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Nintendo usually releases a new console every 5-7 years, and it will be 6 years since the Switch came out in Spring of 2023.

That said, yea, probably not. More likely it comes out holiday 2023 or sometime in 2024.

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adjl
03/29/22 11:27:23 AM
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If they hadn't committed to spring 2023, I could see them pushing it back for a split release on the Switch's successor, but I'd be very, very surprised if we see that successor in a year's time with no news on it whatsoever, especially with the commitment to continue supporting MK8 with new DLC until the end of 2023. We might see a system announcement at E3 for a holiday 2023 release, and it wouldn't surprise me if this ends up ported to that system as a launch title, but it won't happen next spring.

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GRTooCool
03/29/22 11:32:18 AM
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So basically... "We're sorry. Please understand."

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adjl
03/29/22 11:36:50 AM
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Pretty much. Not that they need anything more than that. I'd rather see the game delayed by a few extra months than overwork employees to force out a broken, unfinished game in time for some arbitrary deadline. Post-launch patching means Miyamoto's "a bad game will be bad forever" quote isn't entirely accurate anymore, but I'm a big fan of keeping that option as a backup instead of relying on it by using day one buyers as unpaid beta testers.

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Dmess85
03/29/22 11:37:14 AM
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a "New Nintendo Switch" model in 2023. Mobile iGPUs have advanced a lot now to allow better quality gaming. AMDs Ryzen 6000's can utilize RDNA2.

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adjl
03/29/22 11:57:47 AM
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It's less a matter of the tech not being ready for a new system and more a matter of the Switch still going very strong. People are still quite happily buying the Switch, there are plenty of new and upcoming games maintaining interest... Announcing a successor now would waste that momentum as prospective buyers opted to wait for that successor instead of buying a Switch. It just wouldn't be a sensible business move at this point.

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HornedLion
03/29/22 12:05:45 PM
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After Elden Ring revolutionized the open world formula, I bet they need more time to finish BotW2.

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Entity13
03/29/22 12:12:21 PM
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Dikitain posted...
It is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Nintendo usually releases a new console every 5-7 years, and it will be 6 years since the Switch came out in Spring of 2023.

That said, yea, probably not. More likely it comes out holiday 2023 or sometime in 2024.

I did say Holidays of 2023...

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dioxxys
03/29/22 12:14:10 PM
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papercup posted...
This game is never coming out

adjl posted...
I'd rather see the game delayed by a few extra months than overwork employees to force out a broken, unfinished game in time for some arbitrary deadline

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Black_Crusher
03/29/22 12:14:56 PM
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papercup posted...
This game is never coming out lol

Good. More time for Elden Ring.

HornedLion posted...
After Elden Ring revolutionized the open world formula, I bet they need more time to finish BotW2.

I would't be surprised if there's some truth to this.

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streamofthesky
03/29/22 12:15:48 PM
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I knew it wouldn't be out yet.

If Nintendo were smart, they'd wait till the new console is out and launch it w/ BotW 2, so they can instantly catch up on the PS5 and Series S/X for this gen in sales. Which hopefully is next year. Switch has had a long enough run.
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dioxxys
03/29/22 12:17:19 PM
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Entity13 posted...
No it's coming out... in time for Nintendo's next system, for which it'll be ported, and the Switch version will only be on the store shelves for a couple weeks. So prepare your butts for Nintendo's new system in time for the holidays, 2023.
I think a more powerful hardware switch pro is much more likely

I think Nintendo suffers from putting out a new system too early
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Entity13
03/29/22 12:25:02 PM
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I'm more of the opinion Nintendo suffers from relying on gimmicks to their consoles, rather than making said gimmicks a flavor to improve the experience, but delving more into this opinion would take time I do not have at the moment since I'm about to go get ready for work.

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faramir77
03/29/22 12:52:16 PM
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Were we under the impression it was releasing in 2022? I wasn't.

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adjl
03/29/22 1:03:03 PM
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Entity13 posted...
I'm more of the opinion Nintendo suffers from relying on gimmicks to their consoles, rather than making said gimmicks a flavor to improve the experience, but delving more into this opinion would take time I do not have at the moment since I'm about to go get ready for work.

They really don't. They generally put more emphasis on doing something different and (hopefully) interesting with their systems than on simply making "the last one, but stronger," but in terms of the actual implementation of those features (which falls mostly to developers and not Nintendo), more often than not their use does enhance the experience. Using a gesture to throw Cappy in Odyssey instead of a button press, for example, actually feels better enough that it's my preferred way to play, despite having the option to press a button instead (unfortunately, that interferes with handheld play, but that's kind of inevitable). The use of the WiiU's gamepad as a map/inventory screen single-handedly turned Wind Waker from being a decent game to being a serious contender for my favourite 3D Zelda simply because of how much it streamlined the exploration that is so core to the overall game experience. Metroid Prime 3's use of wiimote aiming was generally a much better control scheme than the previous two's.

Were there more gimmicky examples? Absolutely. The Wii in particular suffered from a massive influx of shovelware minigame compilations that were little more than tech demos. The WiiU and Switch, less so (the WiiU because no third parties cared about it, the Switch because the motion control thing was worn out thoroughly enough by the Wii that there wasn't much potential to sell shovelware), but they were still there (although I would have liked to see more asymmetric multiplayer games on the WiiU; Nintendo Land was actually great fun). That doesn't mean, however, that better applications of those features weren't there, with the DS in particular being an excellent example with countless games that put the touch screen to good use to create games that couldn't have existed otherwise. And, of course, there are plenty of games that don't use those gimmicks at all.

"Nintendo relies on gimmicks instead of using them to improve games" is an incredibly shallow take that comes across as being roughly equivalent to "I didn't like Wii Sports so I sold my Wii and haven't played any Nintendo games since." It simply does not reflect the reality of what's available on these systems. Believing that Nintendo has suffered for that reliance also does not reflect the reality of the situation: The Wii and Switch were both tremendous successes, as much as the Wii fell off sharply later in life due to a lack of third party support in an era where multiplats began to dominate, and the WiiU failed overwhelmingly because of poor marketing (to this day, there are many people who don't understand that it's not just a Wii add-on) that prevented them from capitalizing on their head start.

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JixHedgehog
03/29/22 1:04:56 PM
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Yep, called it in another thread

Nintendo want us to be content with the Mario Kart 8 update, Kirby and Splatoon 3 for the rest of the year

Meanwhile they're hard at work on Mario Kart 9, MP4 and BotW2 for the next console or updated Switch

I just hope they bring it in terms of hardware

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SomeUsername529
03/29/22 1:05:51 PM
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Dikitain posted...
It is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Nintendo usually releases a new console every 5-7 years, and it will be 6 years since the Switch came out in Spring of 2023.
That said, yea, probably not. More likely it comes out holiday 2023 or sometime in 2024.


Barely more than a month ago the president of Nintendo said the Switch is halfway through its life cycle. They might do a relatively significant hardware revision by 2024 but anything more than hinting at a successor is not going to happen. The Switch is still selling like crazy and its first-party software is selling like crazy (Mario Kart 8 has sold like 45 million copies or something absurd). As obsessed with "4K Switch" as the games media is it just doesn't make sense for Nintendo to try and rush the console generation when everyone else already got away with like 10+ years of their previous hardware (which are still by-and-large getting a lot of cross-platform releases).

Entity13 posted...
I did say Holidays of 2023...
Why would BotW2 only be on shelves "a couple of weeks" if that were the case? Unless you meant "a year". Obviously I still disagree with either phrasing.
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streamofthesky
03/29/22 1:23:59 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
Yep, called it in another thread

Nintendo want us to be content with the Mario Kart 8 update, Kirby and Splatoon 3 for the rest of the year

Meanwhile they're hard at work on Mario Kart 9, MP4 and BotW2 for the next console or updated Switch

I just hope they bring it in terms of hardware
We've got Bayonetta 3 and Xenoblade 3 this year

2022 is solid

And yeah, ideally the next console is at least PS4 level in power. Switch can remain as the low power handheld option if they want games to play on both consoles.
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hypnox
03/29/22 1:29:29 PM
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What do you expect. It takes a long time to grow an empty world and dot it sparingly with puzzles that someone who barely realized they had feet could solve.

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adjl
03/29/22 1:34:02 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
We've got Bayonetta 3 and Xenoblade 3 this year

2022 is solid

Eeyup. Honestly, getting both Xenoblade 3 and BotW2 would be a little overwhelming.

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teddy241
03/29/22 2:50:57 PM
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Switch 2 electric boogaloo launch title botw2
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KodyKeir
03/29/22 2:54:31 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Were we under the impression it was releasing in 2022? I wasn't.

Same. I have more then enough to play and I barely do as it is.

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Wanded
03/29/22 3:06:35 PM
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good.

make it better

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Zareth
03/29/22 3:11:20 PM
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Maybe they'll put some dungeons in it this time

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Final Fantasy2389
03/29/22 3:15:18 PM
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HornedLion posted...
After Elden Ring revolutionized the open world formula, I bet they need more time to finish BotW2.
Alright, I need to know how they did this? Because I've played it and it doesn't seem all that revolutionary...

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HornedLion
03/29/22 3:20:36 PM
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...
Alright, I need to know how they did this? Because I've played it and it doesn't seem all that revolutionary...

Say what you will its going to win Game Of The Year 2022. Nintendo knows this, and figures Game Of The Year 2023 will have to do. They want that accolade.

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Final Fantasy2389
03/29/22 3:22:55 PM
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That doesn't explain anything. Yeah, it's probably going to win GotY, I won't deny that, and it's a good game, but it's not all that revolutionary to the open world genre.

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LinkPizza
03/29/22 3:25:53 PM
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KodyKeir posted...
Same. I have more then enough to play and I barely do as it is.

Same for me. Trying to play catch up right now

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Dikitain
03/29/22 3:50:22 PM
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...
That doesn't explain anything. Yeah, it's probably going to win GotY, I won't deny that, and it's a good game, but it's not all that revolutionary to the open world genre.

If anything, from what I have heard from people, Elden Ring has a pretty empty open world (which is usually the sign of a bad open world game).

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LinkPizza
03/29/22 4:20:22 PM
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...
That doesn't explain anything. Yeah, it's probably going to win GotY, I won't deny that, and it's a good game, but it's not all that revolutionary to the open world genre.

I was wondering this, as well From what I heard, its good. But nothing revolutionary

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adjl
03/29/22 4:24:41 PM
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HornedLion posted...
Say what you will its going to win Game Of The Year 2022. Nintendo knows this, and figures Game Of The Year 2023 will have to do. They want that accolade.

There's pretty much no way BotW2 won't win some GotY awards in whatever year it comes out. Elden Ring will also win some GotY awards this year regardless of what else comes out later. There are so many GotY awards out there that no individual one particularly matters, even if we put aside the fact that no gaming award is ever really going to matter except as a publicity boost (which is largely meaningless for both Elden Ring and any Zelda game; neither From nor Nintendo are lacking in publicity).

If you like a game, just like the game. You don't need some self-declared game reviewing authority to validate your opinion for you.

Dikitain posted...
If anything, from what I have heard from people, Elden Ring has a pretty empty open world (which is usually the sign of a bad open world game).

From what I've heard, it's "empty" in the sense that it doesn't pack the world with generic busywork quests, but the world is generally designed to be interesting to explore for exploration's sake. You can generally guarantee that trying to explore any given interesting-looking thing in the distance is going to result in some interesting fights, loot, and possibly story content, so it's worth checking out.

It's not so much "revolutionary" as it is a departure from the trend seen in most of Ubisoft's games, which has become the modern standard for open worlds (a concept which has itself become very popular in the AAA space, with all the creative bankruptcy that comes with AAA milking). That trend has become a little stale, especially with how often it results in copy-pasting the same content repeatedly for the sake of populating an open world that's only as large as it is so they can brag about their map size, so people are pretty keen on any deviation from it (especially paired with Soulsborne's trademark high-quality combat and worldbuilding).

How accurate is that impression? No idea. I need a few upgrades to be able to play it, so I haven't tried yet. That's been the basic gist of the praise I've seen for the game, though.

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Lil_Bit83
03/29/22 5:24:52 PM
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Next year was about what I expected

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Dmess85
03/29/22 6:43:02 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/0/AAHlVdAADFGY.jpg

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03/29/22 7:20:24 PM
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Lil_Bit83
03/29/22 10:25:07 PM
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SilentSeph posted...
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Entity13
03/29/22 10:38:51 PM
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SomeUsername529 posted...
Why would BotW2 only be on shelves "a couple of weeks" if that were the case? Unless you meant "a year". Obviously I still disagree with either phrasing.

It's a snarky, deliberate underestimation based on how Twilight Princess released on GC and the Wii... and proceeded to be hard to find on the GC version shortly afterward. Or the time BotW came out on Wii U and Switch, and the Wii U version didn't last very long, and became difficult, for those of us wanting to not have to buy a new system to play the long-awaited game. If, or likely when, BotW2 comes out on the Switch and the next console at once, the Switch version will probably see the same trend of supply shortage versus the other version despite not many Switch owners having gotten their copies yet. That is what I mean by the Switch version only being available for a couple weeks, new; because Nintendo has its habits.

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streamofthesky
03/29/22 11:02:14 PM
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SilentSeph posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/8/AAZ6OdAADFG0.jpg
Nintendo should follow the Sony and MS model w/ their new console and add a $10 tax to the same game just for being on a new console.

$60 on PS4, $70 on PS5 Absolutely crazy

Entity13 posted...
It's a snarky, deliberate underestimation based on how Twilight Princess released on GC and the Wii... and proceeded to be hard to find on the GC version shortly afterward. Or the time BotW came out on Wii U and Switch, and the Wii U version didn't last very long, and became difficult, for those of us wanting to not have to buy a new system to play the long-awaited game.
I waited for years on TP b/c I didn't have a Wii yet and figured it'd be better on the new console. Then when I finally got a Wii, I looked up about the game and saw universal derision for the Wii version and the GC version was better. So I ended up getting it on GC anyway. Didn't have a problem finding it.

Wish I had learned my lessons from that. Instead, I forgot how bad motion controls were and pre-ordered Skyward Sword (aka, the reason I'll never pre-order a Zelda game again). Then I bought into the fear-mongering that the Wii U version of BotW would be impossible to find soon, and panic bought it 2 weeks after it came out instead of waiting for a sale/used. I bet I could've waited.
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Entity13
03/29/22 11:07:21 PM
#42:


streamofthesky posted...
I waited for years on TP b/c I didn't have a Wii yet and figured it'd be better on the new console. Then when I finally got a Wii, I looked up about the game and saw universal derision for the Wii version and the GC version was better. So I ended up getting it on GC anyway. Didn't have a problem finding it.

Years later, no, because that is a different story from a month or so after release. I do have to ask, though, was it a newly printed copy, a preserved "new" copy, or a used one?

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LinkPizza
03/29/22 11:07:38 PM
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Entity13 posted...
It's a snarky, deliberate underestimation based on how Twilight Princess released on GC and the Wii... and proceeded to be hard to find on the GC version shortly afterward. Or the time BotW came out on Wii U and Switch, and the Wii U version didn't last very long, and became difficult, for those of us wanting to not have to buy a new system to play the long-awaited game. If, or likely when, BotW2 comes out on the Switch and the next console at once, the Switch version will probably see the same trend of supply shortage versus the other version despite not many Switch owners having gotten their copies yet. That is what I mean by the Switch version only being available for a couple weeks, new; because Nintendo has its habits.

The physical version could probably be hard to find. Though, given the way they are trying to make everyone go digital, Im sure the digital version will be available. Meaning that if all you wanted was to play it, youd be able to no problem. Whether they have enough physical copies is another issue, though One that no one has the answer to yet

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Entity13
03/29/22 11:09:48 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
The physical version would probably be hard to find. Though, given the way they are trying to make everyone go digital, Im sure the digital version will be available. Meaning that if all you wanted was to play it, youd be able to no problem. Whether they have enough physical copies is another issue, though One that no one has the answer to yet

Right. And believe me, I'm grateful to the digital option for existing these days.

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streamofthesky
03/29/22 11:10:44 PM
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Entity13 posted...
Years later, no, because that is a different story from a month or so after release. I do have to ask, though, was it a newly printed copy, a preserved "new" copy, or a used one?
Twilight Princess? It was used. Didn't really care back then as long as it worked.
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Revelation34
03/30/22 2:27:39 AM
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Breath of the Wild 3 will come out in 2024 with the new console, Nintendo We're Still Here.

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wwinterj25
03/30/22 4:25:12 PM
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Plenty of games due out this year and others will no doubt be delayed so I'm alright with this.

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Buddyblade
03/30/22 4:35:34 PM
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Im not bothered. BOTW 1 was mind blowing. I want Botw 2 to make the first one look silly by comparison. That takes time, and Ill wait for perfection.

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Black_Crusher
03/30/22 8:17:51 PM
#49:


Dikitain posted...
If anything, from what I have heard from people, Elden Ring has a pretty empty open world (which is usually the sign of a bad open world game).
It doesnt seem empty to me at all, 81 hours in currently.

Now is there an enemy behind every single tree? No, but thats pretty realistic. It really is a fantastic game I love playing.

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