Current Events > America will very soon be incompatible with LGBTQ freedom

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 9:10:24 AM
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It is abundantly clear that Republican victories will mean we are no longer welcome in this country. A majority Congress and President will mean an expansion of the rapidly increasing fascist laws being passed across red states to scare the community out of public. Who knows which of your neighbors might be calling the tip lines to get the government to investigate your divergent behavior?

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yemmy
03/26/22 9:11:12 AM
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First

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CreekCo
03/26/22 9:11:31 AM
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Calm down

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Rathinor
03/26/22 9:13:12 AM
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Trump supporter types will be thrilled to watch LGBT people put into camps. Can tell from their behavior on this very board
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Relient_K
03/26/22 9:13:55 AM
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Moderates on the whole are pretty accepting of gay and lesbian people, but I think we have another generation before trans people are accepted by the general population.

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Medussa
03/26/22 9:14:15 AM
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"it's just a difference of opinion", but in alternating caps

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BuIIyMaguire
03/26/22 9:16:23 AM
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CreekCo posted...
Calm down
This. I get it man, youre frustrated. Youre tired. Youre sick of all the BS in our country. But going off the deep end like you have this past year isnt the answer. You were such a great poster. Dont let this consume you.

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gatorsPENSbucs
03/26/22 9:17:22 AM
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CreekCo posted...
Calm down


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JimRob
03/26/22 9:19:23 AM
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Nah

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MrMallard
03/26/22 9:34:26 AM
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Yes, we as a progressive society - because we do see more open support of queerness today than in prior decades. And yet despite that support and acceptance, the government keeps passing more and more reactionary anti-LGBT laws that criminalize queerness or legalize the ability to discriminate.

You can have a thousand Floridian schoolchildren protest the "Don't Say Gay" bill at their school, but the fact is that the law exists, a person and a faction they represent lobbied for it and introduced it into law, and it punishes people by equating the proliferation and open support of queerness to child abuse. There are people, companies, organizations and political lobbyists spending a great amount of time, effort and money to legally shove as many queer people back into the closet as possible despite that public support - especially among the younger generation.

If we as a progressive society are winning, then who's making it possible to separate parents from their children over the supposed queer agenda? And if we as a progressive society are in the right, and things will only get better from here - then are the people legislating queerness away and prosecuting people for "liberal brainwashing" the enemy of the people?

All this shit does is show us that whatever gains the queer community have gotten - whatever the community has "won" - can just as easily be taken away because an oligarch agrees with a car company and a conservative lobbying effort that acceptance of LGBTQIA+ identities is tantamount to child abuse. That's not progressive society winning, that's the will of the people being legislated away by someone with time, money and influence to enforce their own bigoted agenda. It's an attack, and placating people with "public acceptance is still high!" doesn't address the problem.

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googs19
03/26/22 9:48:28 AM
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Except there are Republicans all over the country that are saying they will do the exact same thing if they win.
Unless the supreme court strikes these laws down hard and fast they will be a vanguard of things to come, not the death throws of the old regime.
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Ving_Rhames
03/26/22 9:50:04 AM
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CreekCo posted...
Calm down

Are you LGBTQ?

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CreekCo
03/26/22 9:52:30 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Are you LGBTQ?

Does it matter? You dont have to be any sort of way to support others.

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baiken2
03/26/22 9:53:01 AM
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Oh shit remember when TC made a 250+ post topic calling for war with Russia? He is going to do that again here.
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gunplagirl
03/26/22 9:53:02 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Are you LGBTQ?
In the rare event they are, they're only ever LGB.

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YookaLaylee
03/26/22 9:54:17 AM
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Move to California or New York and youll be fine

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CreekCo
03/26/22 9:54:20 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
In the rare event they are, they're only ever LGB.

That makes zero sense


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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:00:43 AM
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YookaLaylee posted...
Move to California or New York and youll be fine
Or these backwards pricks can move to a fucking shithole where they hate gay people like they do

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:06:11 AM
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BuIIyMaguire posted...
This. I get it man, youre frustrated. Youre tired. Youre sick of all the BS in our country. But going off the deep end like you have this past year isnt the answer. You were such a great poster. Dont let this consume you.
That's great, but the people that are gonna blow their fucking brains out don't have decades to wait and see if the bigots die out in the states they had the misfortune to be born in.

Acceptance doesn't mean anything if the powers that be don't accept.

As someone said, all Republican politicians promise to continue what you are seeing, which is regression of progressiveness And most of these politicians are pretty young.

I am terrified for innocent people.

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Southernfatman
03/26/22 10:06:16 AM
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I remember certain "moderate/centrist" type liberals saying the right would never go after LGBT+ people because of public perception. Same for abortion. As usual, they were wrong and underestimated Republicans being evil.

Just moving to another state isn't an option. It takes money to move and moving across the country to another state where you have no money or connections with. Besides, Republicans will soon take over the entire country and nowhere will be safe.

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The general public being more accepting means nothing when fascists take over and start shipping people into prisons and death camps. All you people telling others to calm down and that it will be ok are just ostriches with your heads in the sand. You're not realizing what's going on.

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:10:07 AM
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baiken2 posted...
Oh shit remember when TC made a 250+ post topic calling for war with Russia? He is going to do that again here.
That was a poorly advised topic

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YookaLaylee
03/26/22 10:10:07 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
I remember certain "moderate/centrist" type liberals saying the right would never go after LGBT+ people because of public perception. Same for abortion. As usual, they were wrong and underestimated Republicans being evil.

Just moving to another state isn't an option. It takes money to move and moving across the country to another state where you have no money or connections with. Besides, Republicans will soon take over the entire country and nowhere will be safe.

The general public being more accepting means nothing when fascists take over and start shipping people into prisons and death camps. All you people telling others to calm down and that it will be ok are just ostriches with your heads in the sand. You're not realizing what's going on.

What makes you think that death camps are on the table?

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/26/22 10:12:41 AM
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BlasterMaster0 posted...
As a straight man, I voted for gay marriage in California under the pretense that this is all LGBT people wanted. Turns out that wasn't the case.

I tried to tell them marriage is a trap but w/e

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googs19
03/26/22 10:13:13 AM
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YookaLaylee posted...
What makes you think that death camps are on the table?

Have you read the comments section on a Fox "News" article before?
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skermy
03/26/22 10:14:14 AM
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Its starting to sound like America from 50 years ago

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DeadBankerDream
03/26/22 10:14:53 AM
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Whose alt is post 25?

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RobertDoback
03/26/22 10:15:18 AM
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Which is about half of the country. And there are grassroots movements of QAnon types infesting local government positions across the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/03/us-rightwing-dictatorship-2030-trump-canada

This article isn't a guaranteed prediction, but it's definitely thought provoking. Hockey's worries aren't unfounded. Things are not looking good.

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YookaLaylee
03/26/22 10:15:24 AM
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googs19 posted...


Have you read the comments section on a Fox "News" article before?

Do random jabronis online have the power to do anything?

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CreekCo
03/26/22 10:15:28 AM
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googs19 posted...
Have you read the comments section on a Fox "News" article before?

Most of those are bots and such

Sometimes if youre bored you can make a drinking game of following bots from thread to thread

They dont even try with their user names

A small percentage of posts are real people


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baiken2
03/26/22 10:16:16 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
That was a poorly advised topic
You kept insisting the entire time for war over quite a long period of time and were called out for your lack of courage.

You will do the same thing here watch.
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gatorsPENSbucs
03/26/22 10:19:15 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
The general public being more accepting means nothing when fascists take over and start shipping people into prisons and death camps. All you people telling others to calm down and that it will be ok are just ostriches with your heads in the sand. You're not realizing what's going on.

Holy shit is this real?

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Rathinor
03/26/22 10:23:20 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Whose alt is post 25?
It was SirMixaLot, CEs resident fake lawyer. The guy who got caught posting his sister's paycheck
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RobertDoback
03/26/22 10:23:21 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Holy shit is this real?

We all know which side you're on, gator.

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ElatedVenusaur
03/26/22 10:28:11 AM
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I do think people overestimate the degree to which public opinion matters in this country. Our system is explicitly designed for minority rule, after all. And, honestly, its quite clear that most Democratic politicians dont really care about trans people: theres been a very minimal amount of pushback. Theyve barely pushed back against the assault on women, for Christs sake!

Overall, people are complacent and overconfident that history will favor us. Its true that things usually get better over time, but there are dark eras, collapses, and reactions when things do, in fact, get much worse. For minorities in particular. And we already put brown kids in cages and inflict mass death abroad and, through indifference, at home. Im afraid even the extremely bleak picture TC has painted is far less implausible than most care to admit.

And that some of the people in this very topic would probably defend it lol.

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SweetieBeIle462
03/26/22 10:30:17 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Holy shit is this real?

Seems like it, nuts

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gunplagirl
03/26/22 10:37:17 AM
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CreekCo posted...
That makes zero sense
They're never trans people saying things like "oh it won't get that bad"

It makes plenty of sense if you paid attention in English class in middle school

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:40:51 AM
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I meant out of America. Ideally they can all find a desert island and live there.

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Tyranthraxus
03/26/22 10:42:03 AM
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googs19 posted...
Except there are Republicans all over the country that are saying they will do the exact same thing if they win.
Unless the supreme court strikes these laws down hard and fast they will be a vanguard of things to come, not the death throws of the old regime.
50 years of RvW bullshit should tell you this doesn't end just because the supreme court makes a decision.

The only way it'll be secure is if we do everything in our power to make sure the opponents of progress never lead us.

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averagejoel
03/26/22 10:42:38 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
They're never trans people saying things like "oh it won't get that bad"

It makes plenty of sense if you paid attention in English class in middle school
there are trans people with reactionary views too

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:44:00 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Just moving to another state isn't an option. It takes money to move and moving across the country to another state where you have no money or connections with. Besides, Republicans will soon take over the entire country and nowhere will be safe.
Not to mention places like Texas wanting to prevent people from seeking care in other states

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BilalPowell
03/26/22 10:54:00 AM
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If LGBT people really believed this they wouldnt still be here

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 10:58:28 AM
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I appreciate this. It just looks so hard to find optimism when our government stands by while innocent people are hurt for being born different. Or worse, they actively assist in the oppression. That's real evil happening right now. It's so sad.

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creativerealms
03/26/22 11:01:37 AM
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Just stay out of red states. GOP ran states are going to be ramping up the anti strand laws, the anti LGBTQ+ laws and continue to use those groups a tools for power. That is not slowing down, and yet blue states will also be ramping up their protections. Our so called "united" states are very divided in what the leadership believes and that sucks.

LGBT acceptance is rising and that is part if the reason those who feel.challenged by it and have power are fighting back. Now I believe the right will eventually lose this war and in thirty years they will claim they were always pros trans rights, however right now they will fight to win.

Don't give up, he have the moral high ground.

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hockeybub89
03/26/22 11:03:14 AM
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baiken2 posted...
You kept insisting the entire time for war over quite a long period of time and were called out for your lack of courage.

You will do the same thing here watch.
Watch what? What am I suggesting that I lack "courage" to participate in? Also, I'll have you know that I have serious anxiety. Eye contact is a victory for me most days.

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