Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 6: Liurnia of the lynch

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masterplum
03/24/22 9:43:55 PM
#1:


Use at 475

  1. Bat
  2. Ben
  3. Changmas
  4. Chris
  5. Corrik
  6. Crescent
  7. IGCD
  8. isquen
  9. Marth
  10. Mzero
  11. Panth
  12. Red
  13. Sbell
  14. Sultan
  15. Ulti


LD1 Scare - Jumping TOWN Vanilla
KN1 Death - Obligatory Volcano Area - TOWN Vanilla

All Players Still have the action:

##Rate:Good and ##Rate:Bad

You may use either action, but once you rate the message you can not change your rating.

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch
Day Ends in roughly 46 hours, 8 PM EST on Saturday

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Corrik7
03/24/22 10:53:36 PM
#2:


Ben answer my last question and then I have one last question for you.

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Panthera
03/24/22 10:55:04 PM
#3:


Wait so Ben you're saying you didn't know that the rating thing would actually produce anything specific until after day 1 ended?

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Corrik7
03/24/22 10:55:52 PM
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Well that was my last question. If you can't change your votes and it had 9 early, when did you find out about the power.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 10:55:56 PM
#5:


Meow

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Panthera
03/24/22 10:57:53 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Meow

Meow!

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 10:58:11 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
For them to both be scum requires Ben's power to be fake and to have host-manipulating powers that have been banned from this game since longer than I've been playing it.
No it doesn't. If Ben is scum that has the ability to hand out powers and leave messages for the game all that is required for a scum Chris to obtain that power for the scum team is to be here when it is up for grabs.

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Leafeon13N
03/24/22 10:58:36 PM
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I kind ofjust want to know -everything- ben knows because right now is 0 trust.
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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 10:58:57 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
No it doesn't. If Ben is scum that has the ability to hand out powers and leave messages for the game all that is required for a scum Chris to obtain that power for the scum team is to be here when it is up for grabs.
That's the point. It's virtually guaranteed scum receives the power if Ben is also scum.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 10:59:06 PM
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Panthera posted...
Meow!
Kitty!

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Corrik7
03/24/22 11:00:00 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
That's the point. It's virtually guaranteed scum receives the power if Ben is also scum.
Yes scum/scum is unlikely.

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PunishedBen
03/24/22 11:00:08 PM
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I only got the power once it became night time. You guys have made me talk so much, I've basically already made it clear I can get more. Doesn't have to be the same thing I got today. I have no idea what I'm gonna get. Depends on the ratings. I'm starting to suspect there are a lot of vanillas and this is a repeat of last game. In which case, you better protect me tonight

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:00:30 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
Yes scum/scum is unlikely.
Unlikely enough that I believe it is presently a waste of time to even discuss it as a possibility.

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Corrik7
03/24/22 11:00:51 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Unlikely enough that I believe it is presently a waste of time to even discuss it as a possibility.
Correct

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Corrik7
03/24/22 11:01:40 PM
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Ben is assuredly 3rd party anyways so the scum Ben talk is pointless.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:01:50 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
I only got the power once it became night time. You guys have made me talk so much, I've basically already made it clear I can get more. Doesn't have to be the same thing I got today. I have no idea what I'm gonna get. Depends on the ratings. I'm starting to suspect there are a lot of vanillas and this is a repeat of last game. In which case, you better protect me tonight
We have what... 4? 5? Vanilla claims, and one dead vanilla?

There's no reason to be assuming yet that we have a heavy vanilla game.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:01:50 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
That's the point. It's virtually guaranteed scum receives the power if Ben is also scum.
But it isn't guaranteed and that might be the counter to his role as it is. Ben could be some kind of scum inventorish role that has to put the powers up for grabs if he unlocks them through his messaging system. And how would this be any different than having some kind of scum inventor that can just hand the powers to his teammates.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:02:41 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
But it isn't guaranteed and that might be the counter to his role as it is. Ben could be some kind of scum inventorish role that has to put the powers up for grabs if he unlocks them through his messaging system. And how would this be any different than having some kind of scum inventor that can just hand the powers to his teammates.
Scum inventorish that can also manipulate the host to speak for him, let's not forget.

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PunishedBen
03/24/22 11:03:11 PM
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Honestly the only reason i think it was shitty RNG and I didn't have my own choice of target was because 9 in 17 is not very good. I blame all of you for not giving me the benefit of the doubt like I asked.

Let's just kill scum because I'm tired of defending such an obvious town role

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Leafeon13N
03/24/22 11:03:50 PM
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36 minutes.
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Corrik7
03/24/22 11:04:10 PM
#21:


Leafeon13N posted...
36 minutes.
Wait you die in 36 minutes?

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Leafeon13N
03/24/22 11:04:30 PM
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PunishedBen posted...


Let's just kill scum because I'm tired of defending such an obvious town role
This is the biggest lie you have told.
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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:04:43 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
36 minutes.
Since MZero last posted? I was thinking about checking up on him.

PunishedBen posted...
Honestly the only reason i think it was shitty RNG and I didn't have my own choice of target was because 9 in 17 is not very good. I blame all of you for not giving me the benefit of the doubt like I asked.

Let's just kill scum because I'm tired of defending such an obvious town role
There was a 0% chance certain players (like myself and Red) were ever going to participate in a gimmick like this.

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Leafeon13N
03/24/22 11:05:14 PM
#24:


Corrik7 posted...
Wait you die in 36 minutes?
Yes Corrik, i die in 36 minutes.
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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:05:48 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Yes Corrik, i die in 36 minutes.
Dying at 11:40 would be one hell of an oddly specific time.

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Corrik7
03/24/22 11:06:04 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Yes Corrik, i die in 36 minutes.
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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:06:07 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Scum inventorish that can also manipulate the host to speak for him, let's not forget.
How did Ben manipulate Plum in to confirming that Chris got a power? If Ben's power is real, he hands out a power and the host confirms that a player received that power. How is that Ben manipulating the host?

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:06:12 PM
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MZero posted... Sorry guys im at work brb in 30 minutes
Yep this was 38 minutes ago.

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PunishedBen
03/24/22 11:06:31 PM
#29:


Well that sucks.

......rate me good before you leave? *kissey face*

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:06:54 PM
#30:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
How did Ben manipulate Plum in to confirming that Chris got a power? If Ben's power is real, he hands out a power and the host confirms that a player received that power. How is that Ben manipulating the host?
Ben's already claimed his messages at the start of the day are host manipulations.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:07:14 PM
#31:


Can we stop talking about Red dying when he was clearly talking about MZero?

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MZero
03/24/22 11:07:27 PM
#32:


Hi guys im on lunch

Did SBell claim yet

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PunishedBen
03/24/22 11:07:30 PM
#33:


No I made them. I just have limited words I can use. Look up dark souls messages

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:08:19 PM
#34:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ben's already claimed his messages at the start of the day are host manipulations.
And the confirmation was not in the opening message, so this thing your arguing isn't actually a thing. It's just you distorting the facts.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:09:48 PM
#35:


MZero posted...
Hi guys im on lunch

Did SBell claim yet
SBell hasn't done anything.

I do have a question for you.

...Couldn't whatever you're doing just wait until you actually like... Had the free time for it?

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changmas
03/24/22 11:10:16 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Ben's already claimed his messages at the start of the day are host manipulations.

Crescent-Moon posted...
The message could be fake... But I don't see it being significantly relevant at the moment.

I didn't even read it, personally. I still haven't.

Crescent why are you arguing so hard about this when you didn't even read the message in question?


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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:10:38 PM
#37:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
And the confirmation was not in the opening message, so this thing your arguing isn't actually a thing. It's just you distorting the facts.
Ben has CLAIMED it.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:11:20 PM
#38:


changmas posted...
Crescent why are you arguing so hard about this when you didn't even read the message in question?
Because IGCD is trying to make Ben/Chris both being scum a possibility, and Ben/Chris both being scum isn't even worth discussion.

Even CORRIK agrees with me on it.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/24/22 11:12:29 PM
#39:


Ben actually claiming vanilla is scummy

ben claiming vanilla with a cool role was when I was like 'oic' day 1 btw.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:13:11 PM
#40:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ben has CLAIMED it.
This is the day 1 message...

We know more than we can say

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:13:15 PM
#41:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Ben actually claiming vanilla is scummy

ben claiming vanilla with a cool role was when I was like 'oic' day 1 btw.
Chris

Corrik and I came into complete agreement on something again.

Is the world going mad?

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DoomTheGyarados
03/24/22 11:13:27 PM
#42:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Chris

Corrik and I came into complete agreement on something again.

Is the world going mad?

no it happens

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:13:39 PM
#43:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
This is the day 1 message...

We know more than we can say
I am aware. I even said the fact that it said "we" instead of "I" made me trust it less.

I did not read the one today.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:15:55 PM
#44:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
This is the day 1 message...

We know more than we can say
This is the day 2 message...

As first Day,Twelve shine the Light,
With a Grey,Four creep by Night.
A blessing we bestow,
Just ##Instill,
One may the light grow,
If you will.

Neither of these rely on making the host lie to the game because they are very clearly left by a player. So I have no idea where you are getting the idea that Ben and Chris couldn't be scum together because of a lying host.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/24/22 11:18:04 PM
#45:


And just for the record this wasn't an avenue of discussion I wanted to seriously entertain at the moment but Crescent's blatant decision to misrepresent the facts got under my skin.

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MZero
03/24/22 11:18:20 PM
#46:


Crescent-Moon posted...
SBell hasn't done anything.

I do have a question for you.

...Couldn't whatever you're doing just wait until you actually like... Had the free time for it?

Everyone would be asleep then

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PunishedBen
03/24/22 11:18:49 PM
#47:


I would argue that if me and Chris are scum that is broken. Mafia can easily just time it where they are there at deadline to claim the power. Crescent has already stated that, but I'm letting you know she is right

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:19:22 PM
#48:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
And just for the record this wasn't an avenue of discussion I wanted to seriously entertain at the moment but Crescent's blatant decision to misrepresent the facts got under my skin.
And your decision to consistently humor an awful train of thought that isn't even worth discussion got under mine.

We can call it even.

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Crescent-Moon
03/24/22 11:20:07 PM
#49:


PunishedBen posted...
I would argue that if me and Chris are scum that is broken. Mafia can easily just time it where they are there at deadline to claim the power. Crescent has already stated that, but I'm letting you know she is right
Corrik agrees too.

When Crescent and Corrik agree...

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changmas
03/24/22 11:20:29 PM
#50:


Crescent-Moon posted...
I am aware. I even said the fact that it said "we" instead of "I" made me trust it less.

I did not read the one today.

i'll be honest i just don't understand this behavior / choice at all. so we've been given a message by the host, ostensibly written by a player in the game, and you choose to ignore it even though it takes like 30 seconds to read it. and then you spend like 10+ posts arguing about the context in which the player who wrote it did so (or the player claims to have written it). all without taking 30 seconds to even glance at the message. why

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