Board 8 > Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia - Topic 6 - Conquest (Ablaze)

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Oh yeah I forgot about Han.

Which would make sense if they got blocked on him once and that's why they decided to strong man him the next day

Why cant you see Mzero as scum?

As far as I can tell, Mzero is the only player left now that I havent put on a town list at some point. Maybe he is who I should be voting for

UltimaterializerX posted...

That leaves me, Chang, Scare, and Ben. Three of which are obvtown. PoE says there are no scum teams without Scare on the list. Its just not possible. The problem is figuring it out past him.

accurate

but you're the scum in that list

There isa chance my power will go out and thus lose internet and the ability to post

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because when hes actually been here, hes had great content and the tone doesnt read like guy who knows too much.

But he knew Chris was town for a reason he has never ever explained?

TidusOfTheX posted...

There isa chance my power will go out and thus lose internet and the ability to post

before you lose internet, who do you think is most likely to be the last two scum?

Ulti, Mzero, Muyo

You are the POE. One of you is town. Unfortunately all three of you clearly want to kill Scare today. I am drawing a line in the sand.

Will you side with me, or with this Ulti guy who is getting seemingly more desperate with every post?

I need at least one of you, preferably the one who is town, to work with me. This is my last day on this earth. I led us to victory yesterday, and I intend to do it one more time. Who is with me?

Ulti, if you flip town I promise I will lynch Tidus and then Scare.

Would you still say this guarantees a win?

PunishedBen posted...

But he knew Chris was town for a reason he has never ever explained?

I didn't know he was town, I just had a town read on him. I don't see scum Chris starting a train on inactive IGCD at the end of D1. If Ulti is town, there's no reason to mess with the mislynch that's being served up to make yourself look bad knowing IGCD will flip town. If Ulti is scum, it doesn't make sense to extend to save him by voting IGCD, when you know he'll flip town and make both of you look bad. It's just a terrible move for a scum Chris to make and I think he's better than that. On top of that, I thought Chris was actually trying to solve the game and his reads evolved naturally.

But even aside from that, the Chris lynch was bad either way because he claimed doctor and scum would have had to kill him at night anyway, and claiming vanilla as doctor is 100% the right play. He also kind of hinted at being doctor before that. This part I did explain I think

MZero posted...

I didn't know he was town, I just had a town read on him. I don't see scum Chris starting a train on inactive IGCD at the end of D1. If Ulti is town, there's no reason to mess with the mislynch that's being served up to make yourself look bad knowing IGCD will flip town. If Ulti is scum, it doesn't make sense to extend to save him by voting IGCD, when you know he'll flip town and make both of you look bad. It's just a terrible move for a scum Chris to make and I think he's better than that. On top of that, I thought Chris was actually trying to solve the game and his reads evolved naturally.

But even aside from that, the Chris lynch was bad either way because he claimed doctor and scum would have had to kill him at night anyway, and claiming vanilla as doctor is 100% the right play. He also kind of hinted at being doctor before that. This part I did explain I think

Your statistics were there and made sense. I do remember that.

changmas posted...

before you lose internet, who do you think is most likely to be the last two scum?

Like I said before, I have no idea. I do think Ulti could be scum
UltimaterializerX posted...

Do you live in the northeast? Were having some shit weather up here.

Yep
PunishedBen posted...

Ulti, if you flip town I promise I will lynch Tidus and then Scare.

Would you still say this guarantees a win?

Uh, why are people going against me if I am almost confirmed town? Are you really this sure ulti is scum?

If it's any consilation Tidus, one of us will probably be dead before that

*consolation

...Sorry that was bothering me

UltimaterializerX posted...

This dude called me scum for like three days. WTF @ this change of heart.

he literally says in the same post he thinks you're still scum. he's just questioning ben's methods.

fwiw i don't hate an ulti lynch today, especially after this string of posts. particularly this one.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Muyo I cant see as scum just based on his play and simple role meta. MZero I cant see as scum either. Role meta also means Tidus is town (sorry bro, I thought I found it and got overly excited).

That leaves me, Chang, Scare, and Ben. Three of which are obvtown. PoE says there are no scum teams without Scare on the list. Its just not possible. The problem is figuring it out past him.

it sure is easy to PoE scare in a scumteam when you clear two people I don't have clear at all on very flimsy reasoning.

changmas why am I your top scum read?

Man it's like we traded one Corrik for another. All this " my flip will gareuntee this and that". Anyone else okay with being lynched today?

I honestly don't see why Ulti would be. It's just fake

MZero posted...

changmas why am I your top scum read?

fencesitting on your Death read, piling on after chris started pressuring me day 2. and the vote for scare yesterday is looking worse and worse in retrospect tbh.

but im fine to lynch ulti today if that's the will of the town

changmas posted...

fencesitting on your Death read, piling on after chris started pressuring me day 2. and the vote for scare yesterday is looking worse and worse in retrospect tbh.

but im fine to lynch ulti today if that's the will of the town

how did I fence sit on death? I thought he was town and never waivered on that. If anything you could say I was protecting him but I never changed my stance. And I started pressuring you before Chris did!

MZero posted...

how did I fence sit on death? I thought he was town and never waivered on that. If anything you could say I was protecting him but I never changed my stance. And I started pressuring you before Chris did!

I suppose it matters less since you're not picking this option but saying "Death is acting scummy, but when I think Death is acting scummy he turns out to be town" gives you the option to go back and say "well I did say I thought he was acting scummy" after he flips, if it somehow became a major point of interest.

Did you? My memory has it the other way, but I suppose I could have it wrong. I'll have to check that again. I barely skimmed that part on my re-read because it wasn't super relevant to yesterday's lynch.

changmas posted...

I suppose it matters less since you're not picking this option but saying "Death is acting scummy, but when I think Death is acting scummy he turns out to be town" gives you the option to go back and say "well I did say I thought he was acting scummy" after he flips, if it somehow became a major point of interest.

Did you? My memory has it the other way, but I suppose I could have it wrong. I'll have to check that again. I barely skimmed that part on my re-read because it wasn't super relevant to yesterday's lynch.

I suppose you could look at it that way. I didn't say death was acting scummy overall, just that the specific act of mentioning he checked the rules regarding town vanilla vs vanilla town was something I would usually call out, but not unexpected from town death. I'll always remember Mercs mafia where someone claimed pjbasis, death questioned if that character would make sense in the game, and then later claimed pjbasis himself. He was town and that was his real flavor, and somehow never got lynched for claiming a flavor he previously questioned being in the game at all. I was scum and convinced he must be 3rd party or something and tunneled him to oblivion. Anyway, the point is I've learned that town death sometimes does stuff like that, but I feel like he's more buttoned up as scum and would make sure not do something like that (it seems I was wrong, or he's rusty)

As for day 2, I was the first to bring up the post about asking ben for a reason to vote IGCD or whatever, and then I think Chris started going after you while I was asleep. So I didn't build the house but I laid the foundation so to speak

PunishedBen posted...

Ulti, Mzero, Muyo

You are the POE. One of you is town. Unfortunately all three of you clearly want to kill Scare today. I am drawing a line in the sand.

Will you side with me, or with this Ulti guy who is getting seemingly more desperate with every post?

I need at least one of you, preferably the one who is town, to work with me. This is my last day on this earth. I led us to victory yesterday, and I intend to do it one more time. Who is with me?

So nobody is gonna take me up on this huh? You guys are boring. All 3 of you aren't scum, right?

Alright, new question - which of you is the town member who is just really confident that I've got everything wrong?

You won't lynch me, right ben? Ulti, If I'm town, but Scare is scum, then who would be the second scum?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because I learned my lesson in Umineko mafia where my refusal to let town just lynch me and kill Plum in trade lost us the game. If me flipping vanilla means you people finally just kill Scare, then good. Town still wins.

Sure, but are you really so sure that it's impossible for the last two scum to be in Chiri/chang/Mzero? Because you speak as if that is impossible. If two of those are scum we lose the game by lynching you.

And plus you're saying we have to lynch scare and tidus. Which means if any of those 3 are scum we lose the game by lynching you. I don't believe you're that convinced to offer yourself up as tribute. I would not be comfortable leaving the game now if I were in your place and your slot was town. I think it's just a ploy

TidusOfTheX posted...

You won't lynch me, right ben? Ulti, If I'm town, but Scare is scum, then who would be the second scum?

Never

One of the reasons i want to host a mafia game is so that I can see how everyone plays while knowing their roles

100% is a lot of percents

let's get this show on the road then

##Vote: Ulti

yep

##vote: ulti

Yeah, I've offered twice, and Ulti has made it clear that he doesnt want to work with me. I do just straight up see him as scum at this point. Mzero ignored the post too, but I can see him being the stubborn town who cares about being right more than winning. Chiri may have just been told to not interact with me, or just hasnt been online in awhile.

But Ulti. It feels like he came into today telling his scum board "Dont worry, I've got this. I'll be louder than Ben and make sure we get the Scare lynch."

##Unvote
##Vote: Ulti

[3] Ulti: (Ben), changmas, Tidus, Ben
[1] Scare: Ulti
[0] Muyo: (Ben)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends at 12:00 AM GMT Tuesday/07:00 PM EST Monday (25 hours and 15 minutes from now).

[4] Ulti: (Ben), changmas, Tidus, Ben, Scare
[1] Scare: Ulti
[0] Muyo: (Ben)

Ultimaterializer has been lynched. He was Tiki, Vanilla TOWN.

Alive (6):
Ben
changmas
ChichiriMuyo
MZero
ScareChan
TidusOfTheX

Dead (9):
IfGodCouldDie - Owain, Vanilla TOWN (LD1)
Shonen_Bat - Frederick TOWN Mason Bodyguard (KN1)
htaeD - Validar MAFIA Vigilante (LD2)
HanOfTheNekos - Kjelle TOWN Bulletproof (KN2)
Chris - Lissa TOWN Doctor (LD3)
red13n - Tharja, Vanilla TOWN (KN3)
Corrik - Grima MAFIA Godfather (LD4)
Sheep007 - Cordelia, Vanilla TOWN (KN4)
Ultimaterializer - Tiki, Vanilla TOWN (LD5)

It is now Night 5. You have until 11:30 PM GMT Monday/06:30 PM EST Monday to submit any night actions (24 hours from now).

The time there may be a little off since I forgot to account for daylight savings, but the deadline is still 24 hours from the time of that post.