Board 8 > Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia - Topic 6 - Conquest (Ablaze)

(+) Yeah! (+)

Luis said nothing about it, only that I got blocked

Not 10 minutes after I posted that my power came back on. Incredible.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You could let me contribute before being an idiot.

Let's skip to the end. I flip town vanilla. Who are the two scum?

put me down for Muyo + Mzero, but I'm open to being convinced that one of them is Scare.

ScareChan posted...

When you get back, can you give a flavor paraphrase?

paraphrase basically is taking your role pm and changing it enough that its not exactly the same, but gives the info regardless

I am Marth, Vanilla Town. I share a name with the hero of legend. I come from a mysterious background, but wield a sword and stance that reminds many of Chrom, the leader of the Shepherds.

UltimaterializerX posted...

"Scum Chris" was active too, buddy.

Who are the final two scum when I flip town vanilla?

I seem to recall you endorsing that as an A+ player move and supporting it whole heartedly.

I was right about it being trolling after the fact

PunishedBen posted...

They had to think sheep was cop. That's my belief. It's either that, or they believed Tidus would protect me. One of those means Tidus is town. The other option means Mzero and Chang is town.

Even if they thought he was going to protect you that doesnt mean anything. If tidus is confirmed power and he couldnt have protected himself why wouldnt they shoot him instead of an unknown?

Please do show your work Ulti because you yourself havent even answered your own question

is it because you know you cant logic out a teammate for me
leaving your options open on who to pair if you get my lynched
or just because you being scum makes it useless to play it out

UltimaterializerX posted...

I'm gonna pen you down for Muyo/Scare and call it a day.

Anyone else?

Put me down for Scare/Muyo

liking the early energy from Ulti here

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Even if they thought he was going to protect you that doesnt mean anything. If tidus is confirmed power and he couldnt have protected himself why wouldnt they shoot him instead of an unknown?

To make me give something to town at mylo or lylo then kill me? Isn't that what you guys were talking about?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Your teammate is Tidus. Clearly.

So your path to victory is mislynch me and then put all your eggs in a basket on being able to out talk Tidus?

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Even if they thought he was going to protect you that doesnt mean anything. If tidus is confirmed power and he couldnt have protected himself why wouldnt they shoot him instead of an unknown?

Sounds like they roleblocked him. And they thought sheep was a role worth shooting. Makes sense they would think that with how many vanilla the game apparently has. Even I thought Sheep had to be cop

Bad news for you scum, I'm not giving an ability at those times

Scare is not scum.

I do think Tidus is town. So maybe it's time to kill Muyo

Here's the deal, scum had a godfather that we now know is useless. But this led them to believe there had to be a cop. So they shot Sheep. They also thought that since there is a cop, Miller would be a smart claim. So Corrik told Muyo to claim Miller

##Unvote
##Vote: Muyo

So do we think there are TWO red herring roles, or just a mistake by scum?

I claimed before corrick

Lets think about what we know from yesterday. Corrik was trying extremely hard to stay alive. So much so that he convinced Sheep and Chang to vote with him. Sheep is confirmed town and Chang is imo guaranteed town. Corrik was trying all day to lynch Scare. It was only when it came down to the last hour, and it was clear that the only lynch Sheep and Chang were considering was Chiri, that he decided "Oh yeah. Chiri can be scum too", and changed his vote to Chiri. He did not push against Chiri with any gusto before that moment. This makes me believe the lynch yestersay was scum/scum and Chiri was a reluctant alternative. This makes Scare look better.

Luis_Sera89 posted...

[4] Corrik: (Sheep), (Ben), Scare, Tidus, Muyo, Ben
[3] Muyo: Sheep, Corrik, changmas
[1] Scare: MZero, (Corrik), (Corrik)
[0] MZero: (Ben)

Looks like perhaps the only scum ending the day on Chiri was Corrik. And they were voting each other as a sort of "respectful" bus. I dont think scum wanted him lynched.

Corrik7 posted...

I like that last post a lot from him.

Let's go! Choo Choo!

##unvote:
##vote: Muyo

Obviously not my first choice because I don't understand his claim from scum in this scenario, but he might have been using my scenario as cover to get by claiming why he would scan as scum in fear. Let's go! Somebody has to have coached that claim though if scum. No way a newbie came up with that stuff on his own.

This was his Chiri vote

And Muyo, if you are town I'll let you know straight up your competition is Mzero and Ulti. Which of them is more likely scum to you?

To be perfectly clear I am not lynching Scare today. After Corrik flips godfather, Scare looks much better. My preference today is Mzero > Muyo > Ulti tbh. It's very weird to me that multiple players are still pushing this Tidus = scum narrative.

I'm not wavering on Ulti. If it's down to those two then MZero.

Actually Tidus maybe you shouldn't use your last power, considering its too dangerous to take anyone's votes away this late in the game.

Remember when Corrik suggested Tidus do that? Good times

PunishedBen posted...

I do think Tidus is town. So maybe it's time to kill Muyo

Here's the deal, scum had a godfather that we now know is useless. But this led them to believe there had to be a cop. So they shot Sheep. They also thought that since there is a cop, Miller would be a smart claim. So Corrik told Muyo to claim Miller

Tidus could have a cop scan technically

That's true.

Either way I think we can all agree Tidus is town, otherwise this game would just have no power in it. Who benefits from being gifted abilities? A bunch of vanillas. It does make sense.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Bible Mafia.

Though I do suppose youre right actually. Without Tidus giving a cop scan there is no reason for a godfather. It also more or less confirms Muyo town.

Ill be disappointed if its MZero. Hes played so damn well.

Muyo your buddy then? Giving him 'confirmed' status

MZero posted...

Tidus could have a cop scan technically

You think Scare is scum still after corrik flip?

Scare who are the people you wouldn't lynch today?

UltimaterializerX posted...

You know those are arguably the two best scum players we have, right

Indeed. I said as much yesterday to corrik before I killed him

PunishedBen posted...

Scare who are the people you wouldn't lynch today?

You, obviously

I'm not lynching Chang

After that its less clear, but I want to also say Tidus

UltimaterializerX posted...

So why do you think Scare is town?

Honestly, that scum tried to shoot me night 1

UltimaterializerX posted...

You know those are arguably the two best scum players we have, right

Also I love how Ulti tries to use the same argument to call me town or scum seamlessly at his will

"All the best players are lynching Chris. Town."
to
"You would have known better than to lynch Chris. Scum."

Not what he's doing in this post, but credit for his loud silver tongue

Day 1 was so long ago that I can't remember exactly what tipped me off, but it's usually the little things. I made it very clear that I was town reading Scare on day 1, and I made a post saying "Scare is my mason buddy, but I don't know if I'm his yet". This is a big thing to invoke, showing a lot of confidence. And meaning that I wouldn't try to lynch him. Scare who was scum in the last game wanted to keep players alive just because they town read him.

It's one of the big reasons I thought Chris was town. He would love to keep me alive and manipulating me if he was scum

UltimaterializerX posted...

So why do you think Scare is town?

for me personally i just don't think i buy that it's likely whatsoever for Corrik/Scare to both be scum. I didn't see much a possibility there yesterday and corrik flipping godfather doesn't change that, especially when I see 3 different players (Mzero/Muyo/Ulti) that make more sense paired with Corrik.

So you're sure scare is town because if he was scum he'd want to you around as long as possible? And you're still here.

PunishedBen posted...

You think Scare is scum still after corrik flip?

yeah, it's weird that Scare and Corrik both went so hard on Chris but I'm struggling to find a team without Scare on it. It's not you or Tidus, changmas has the Sheep scans

it's between Scare/Muyo/Ulti imo and I like Ulti the most of those three

PunishedBen posted...

Honestly, that scum tried to shoot me night 1

how do you know that?

MZero posted...

how do you know that?

The only way they didn't is if they shot at both Shonen and Tidus.... entertaining things like that is what loses town games

ChichiriMuyo posted...

So you're sure scare is town because if he was scum he'd want to you around as long as possible? And you're still here.

Dying day 1 doesnt leave me around for very long. I shouldnt be alive today. I can only thank Red and Sheep for their kickass plays and Mafia's reluctance to make the same move twice for my being alive today

But you said it yourself, if scare was scum he'd want you here as long as possible, and you're still here. If scare thinks he can manipulate you that easily it stops being a stretch for scum to shoot shonen and tidus day one.

ChichiriMuyo posted...

But you said it yourself, if scare was scum he'd want you here as long as possible, and you're still here. If scare thinks he can manipulate you that easily it stops being a stretch for scum to shoot shonen and tidus day one.

Ah. Well the kicker then is that I am pretty confident death wanted to shoot me. And if he had any say on where his vig shot went, which I believe he did, he would have tried to shoot me.

Ben is dead for sure by this point if I'm scum. Probably in place of Sheep

And Chris was town. They tried to take out the Chris extra vote (me) who was also confirmed town instead of trying to take out Chris himself. For fear of a doctor protecting Chris or a mislynch on him later.

PunishedBen posted...

The only way they didn't is if they shot at both Shonen and Tidus.... entertaining things like that is what loses town games

or Han