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greenmist01
03/08/22 9:21:34 AM
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As far as console games go.

I think most people would agree that the golden age of video games was the 90s and the 00s. I think whats gonna ruin the current generation and the future generation is (and its happening already), game makers are just gonna be lazy, because of the invention of the internet and how powerful it is now.

In the past, if you wanted to make a video game, it had to be completed and polish before it hit the stores, and that really was the final final final deadline. But thats not the case now, cause if a game gets released and its not polished, you can finish it off with creating patches and sending them down the internet lines to all those households who have bought the games.

Why hire game testers to test the games for bugs and glitches, when you can get mr and mrs public to do it for you for free?. There is definitely evidence of this now, so many games get released that have more bugs in them than the cast of Antz. You even get games on their release dates that are unplayable, like Cyberpunk 2077. This is unfair to those who buy games on their release dates, cause they dont get their moneys worth. I think these days its best not to buy a game on its release date, but instead wait 2 or 3 months, then all the bugs would have been corrected by patches.
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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 10:17:58 AM
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It even worse than you seem to think: constant patches the last couple generations were just a run-up to the GaaS era we're in now.
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TetsuoS2
03/08/22 10:22:13 AM
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while i generally agree with you, i also think you're overestimating the quality of games back then.

we only remember the good ones, and not remember the meh final fantasy translations, ports, etc.

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 10:22:54 AM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
we only remember the good ones
Time is the great crap-filter.
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BeyondWalls
03/08/22 10:23:37 AM
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greenmist01 posted...
I think most people would agree that the golden age of video games was the 90s and the 00s.
Eh... Im not convinced.

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 10:24:31 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Eh... Im not convinced.
It's all been downhill since the PS2 era. The prettier the games get, the worse they seem to be.
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CyricZ
03/08/22 10:28:44 AM
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I really feel like some folk just don't know the quality games that are released every year.

Or maybe they expect them from a source that no longer gives them.

Or they don't know quality when they see it and think quality is something else.

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/08/22 10:29:08 AM
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Game designers and shit probably work harder now than ever. The games are just so comparatively huge, that they spend all this time and all this effort and the thing still isn't done. And they have to release it, at this specific deadline, way more unfinished than games used to be 25 years ago or so.

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ZEROWOLF
03/08/22 10:29:16 AM
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This is exactly why I wait for a game to go on sale 6-12 months later.

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TetsuoS2
03/08/22 10:29:53 AM
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people just like what they grew up with.


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Antifar
03/08/22 10:30:09 AM
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I remember when games were fully complete when they were released, like Wind Waker

But seriously, what post #10 said: the scale of these games is larger than ever before, and the amount of money on the line has increased as well. Financial pressures will continue to push for devs to work 16 hour days so they can meet whatever deadline the publisher needs (a holiday release, before the end of the fiscal year, etc.)

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ViewtifulJoe
03/08/22 10:30:30 AM
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Already there.
8th gen was what you describe and the 9th circle has been a repeat so far.
I'd be so quick to say it's over and walk off if the hobby didn't have me constantly going back and trying to find older hidden gems I'd missed.

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CyricZ
03/08/22 10:32:01 AM
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Or that.

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King0fSTL
03/08/22 10:32:40 AM
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FF6 is considered one of the greatest games of all times. It had statuses effects that's just didn't work.

Pokemon kicked off the largest video game franchise ever and is completely broken as far as game design.

Games always released broken, but now they can fix them

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 10:33:01 AM
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Antifar posted...
I remember when games were fully complete when they were released, like Wind Waker
When you couldn't patch the games after release, you had to make sure they actually worked.
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King0fSTL
03/08/22 10:33:13 AM
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Hell even different carts of OoT have different patches on them.


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Solid Snake07
03/08/22 10:36:03 AM
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Nah, developers who put out a quality product will find financial success.

Granted it sucks that games that arent necessarily bad but generally do nothing new continue to put out almost identical games year after year to people who are okay with playing basically the same game for the past 15 years. But thats just the nature of entertainment. As long as people keep buying it theyre gonna keep selling it.

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/08/22 10:41:35 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's all been downhill since the PS2 era. The prettier the games get, the worse they seem to be.
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 10:42:12 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Nostalgia is for the SNES era.
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BeyondWalls
03/08/22 11:44:40 AM
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Multiplayer didnt even really take off until the PS3 era. I think things started going down hill late in the PS3s life.

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Jabodie
03/08/22 11:46:38 AM
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

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greenmist01
03/08/22 11:48:37 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
When you couldn't patch the games after release, you had to make sure they actually worked.
Thats the point i been trying to make in my OP. Now they all have the safety net of "well if there's bugs and glitches and incompleteness, we can always work on them any time after launch date", where as back before the powerful internet, you couldent do jack after the game had been released.

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Unknown5uspect
03/08/22 11:56:40 AM
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Antifar posted...
I remember when games were fully complete when they were released, like Wind Waker
Yeah back when they just cut content like the two dungeons they never finished for that game.

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/22 7:41:15 PM
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greenmist01 posted...
Thats the point i been trying to make in my OP. Now they all have the safety net of "well if there's bugs and glitches and incompleteness, we can always work on them any time after launch date", where as back before the powerful internet, you couldent do jack after the game had been released.
All you could do really is sneak out a 1.01 cart/disc while nobody's looking, and hope the glitch isn't easy to trigger.
There's more than a few games that did that.
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BlackBlueButts
03/08/22 7:43:13 PM
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Didn't they release 30 different editions of street fighter 2? Now you just get the one game and they update it.

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Imit8m3
03/08/22 9:10:33 PM
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The golden age of gaming was the PS3. Minimal glitches at launch and very few patches.
The last gen, they tested out letting their customers test their games at full price, instead of closed/open betas.
This gen will be a complete glitchfest at launch. I refuse to buy anything at release this gen. And PC mag agrees with me.
https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/stop-giving-your-money-to-game-publishers-that-sell-now-patch-later
Anyone telling you to do different is a corporate shill.

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WaterLink
03/08/22 9:14:14 PM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
Yeah back when they just cut content like the two dungeons they never finished for that game.

Yeah I hope he was being sarcastic with that to use it as an example. Coming from someone that absolutely loved WW.

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SuperShake666
03/08/22 9:15:09 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovKkaBKCWs

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JuanCarlos1
03/08/22 9:17:27 PM
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Games are just incredibly more complex now which opens the door for many more glitches and bugs.

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TetsuoS2
03/08/22 9:27:21 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
The golden age of gaming was the PS3. Minimal glitches at launch and very few patches.
The last gen, they tested out letting their customers test their games at full price, instead of closed/open betas.
This gen will be a complete glitchfest at launch. I refuse to buy anything at release this gen. And PC mag agrees with me.
https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/stop-giving-your-money-to-game-publishers-that-sell-now-patch-later
Anyone telling you to do different is a corporate shill.

Lol, the platform with the worst Skyrim experience ever?

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Imit8m3
03/08/22 9:45:22 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/7/AAZgIXAADAhh.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/8/AAZgIXAADAhi.png

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Imit8m3
03/08/22 9:47:13 PM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
Lol, the platform with the worst Skyrim experience ever?
Gas light much

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Solar_Crimson
03/09/22 7:58:21 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Game designers and shit probably work harder now than ever. The games are just so comparatively huge, that they spend all this time and all this effort and the thing still isn't done. And they have to release it, at this specific deadline, way more unfinished than games used to be 25 years ago or so.

Antifar posted...
the scale of these games is larger than ever before, and the amount of money on the line has increased as well. Financial pressures will continue to push for devs to work 16 hour days so they can meet whatever deadline the publisher needs (a holiday release, before the end of the fiscal year, etc.)


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