Poll of the Day > You know what I'd like to see? Survivor: New York

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The concept is simple. Take a bunch of celebrities and extremely wealthy people (talking top 1% here) and drop them in the middle of NYC. They have to survive for one year. They cannot access any of their wealth or anything and have to start off, effectively, as a homeless person. Do you think people would like this show?

A panhandler with a camera crew would probably make loads of cash

I'm more interested in seeing these celebrates who live in manors and are used to the high life struggle with minor things like, say, risking being homeless, unfair rent prices, struggling at a McDonald's job, and more.

But that 1% would never agree to participate.

Unbridled9 posted...

I'm more interested in seeing these celebrates who live in manors and are used to the high life struggle with minor things like, say, risking being homeless, unfair rent prices, struggling at a McDonald's job, and more.

It's a non-issue since the whole reason why these people are the 1% is because of who they know. Even if they had everything stripped from them, they could ask for free shit from other wealthy people and use their name as backing to start another business.

I saw this movie before it was a Mel brooks movie, said Mel brooks movie was based on trading places.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Even if they had everything stripped from them, they could ask for free shit from other wealthy people and use their name as backing to start another business.

Even without doing that, they could sell autographs on the street for 20 bucks a pop

Things are a bit more expensive now, but yeah, if you seriously went at it, and worked your but off, even starting from scratch you could get pretty far, pretty fast. My friend for instance has an entry level job requiring only basic tech skills that pays $25 an hour. He lives in the bay area and rents a basement for $900 but is thinking of just living out of his van soon instead to save the cash (and renting storage/gym membership for less than $100 a month.

NY has a similar pay scale as the bay area, so you can probably get a $25 an hour job pretty easy if you have any skills at all, even just basic tech skills/typing etc which even the rich who didn't have to work a day of their lives probably have. They also probably have semi-decent sales skills etc since they have commuinicated alot (although they may have to change how they act towards people.

Anyway, if you really hustled and worked around 10 hours a day or so, 7 days a week, got a super cheap laptop (like $100) to access the internet and post things on line, bought and sold for profit in your off hours etc, you could probably accrue a decent amount of money in a fairly short period of time. It wouldn't be 30 days like in survivor though, but give it a year? You could see some serious gains.

Take a base 25$/hr and 112 hours a week (2 jobs, no overtime, 16 hour days/7days a week), and you have a base of 400$*30.5 days per month (12,200$ per month). You use the trick of declaring yourself exempt (all taxes paid at the end of the year) to give yourself more liquid assets to work with.

That sounds unsustainable, but you don't need to do that long term, you just need to get enough money to start investing/buying selling asap. Sales jobs, jobs that tip etc could also boost your base pay/hr significantly allowing you to work far less hours (especially tipping jobs like working as a bartender etc).

Soon as you get enough assets you start buying/selling, initially with cars/motorcycles etc. You can always get good deals and flip them, and often at least double the money invested (especially if you have the time to hit auctions etc, though that does generally require you to know more about cars).

First month you grind out about 12k and invest that, working your but off. After that you start working just 40 hours and trying to maximize the profits from that time, and then focus on buying/selling around that. Depending on your pay and how much you are getting from buying/selling you might rent a room at that point (still can get rooms for less then 1k in NY, just not in Manhattan).

IF you can get your realtors license (or already had it), that would help a ton in stage 2, where you start buying/selling properties (although in NY that is going to be significantly harder, you can do so on Long Island etc where there are still mobile homes etc fairly fast). It is highly likely any originally rich dude is going to have very good credit which would help a ton, but that might be cheating, still they should still have the ability to use a normal credit rating which could allow them to easily start buying/selling mobile homes with just 10k to invest.

Then it's all downhill from there, eventually allowing you to just buy/sell and not need to work at all due to the large profits your making from investing, which you wouldn't see someone start from scratch and have millions by the end of the year, you could easily see them being finacially stable enough just from buying and selling to not need to work, live in a nice home (that they own) and making over 100k profit a year (Already) by the end of the year. While not everyone could do that, I bet if you did have a survivor type show where a group of rich buisiness people (kinda like the old Apprentice show) started from scratch, the top few would all end up that way after a year.