Current Events > It is incredible how the USA managed to survive back-to-back awful presidents.

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Geiki Ganger
02/19/22 6:08:22 PM
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First Trump then Biden. Most countries would have crumbled if they had elected two incompetent presidents in a row.

But somehow the USA still chucks along as a superpower of this world and the citizens as proud of themselves as ever for being American.

Truly impressive.

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Heartomaton
02/19/22 6:09:35 PM
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Bit too early to call, you know.

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thronedfire2
02/19/22 6:10:39 PM
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I know it seemed like 8 but Trump was only in office for four years

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PoundGarden
02/19/22 6:15:23 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
But somehow the USA still chucks along as a superpower of this world and the citizens as proud of themselves as ever for being American.

Tbf turbo patriots are almost exclusively a rupeblican/conservative thing. Most normal people aren't super proud just to have been born here. Grateful maybe, but idk about proud.

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cardgum
02/19/22 6:16:59 PM
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I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

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monkmith
02/19/22 6:18:50 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.
half of them hate him because he's not trump, half of them hate him because he's not bernie.

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PoundGarden
02/19/22 6:19:14 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

Conservatives/Republicans do. Everyone else is mostly neutral and a small percentage actually like him.

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Heineken14
02/19/22 6:22:03 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.


Right wing coping.

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TommyG663513
02/19/22 6:25:17 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

I dislike him, because he is meh on progressive issues. Kamala Harris was also an awful VP pick

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hockeybub89
02/19/22 6:26:01 PM
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Only 2?

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FortuneCookie
02/19/22 6:52:46 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

He's pretty useless. The only thing he has going for him is that he is not actively as bad as Trump.
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AltyMcAltface
02/19/22 6:55:19 PM
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lmfao imagine trying to assert that Biden's term so far is anywhere near comparable to the dumpster fire that was Trump's mockery of the office

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MabusIncarnate
02/19/22 6:57:17 PM
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That was a quick 4 years under Biden, wow!

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VigorouslySwish
02/19/22 6:58:12 PM
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bro were not even halfway through the second yet dont get happy yet

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TheGoldenEel
02/19/22 7:02:16 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.
Because hes utterly fucking useless in a time when republicans are actively trying to destroy the country more blatantly than ever before

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Bishop9800
02/19/22 7:02:20 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I dislike him, because he is meh on progressive issues. Kamala Harris was also an awful VP pick

FortuneCookie posted...
He's pretty useless. The only thing he has going for him is that he is not actively as bad as Trump.


As one person said.....
Heartomaton posted...
Bit too early to call, you know.


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02/19/22 7:03:56 PM
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monkmith
02/19/22 7:12:26 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Because hes utterly fucking useless in a time when republicans are actively trying to destroy the country more blatantly than ever before
so quick question, should he go down to the senate and whoop some republican asses and make them pass them bills? that's how things work in wrestling so it must be how government works right?

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thronedfire2
02/19/22 7:17:23 PM
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monkmith posted...
so quick question, should he go down to the senate and whoop some republican asses and make them pass them bills? that's how things work in wrestling so it must be how government works right?

maybe he should try calling some governors and threatening them?

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Nukazie
02/19/22 7:20:32 PM
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it's as if they dont really do much to be 'awful' at the job

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atmasabr
02/19/22 7:24:06 PM
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I think it's impressive, too. That's the founding fathers for you. They built to last.

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StarDestroyer
02/19/22 7:25:37 PM
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It's incredible that America never considers carting these old fuckers off to the retirement home and out of politics.
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MrToothHasYou
02/19/22 11:21:23 PM
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Thats nothing: we survived Reagan, then Bush, then Clinton, then a somehow worse Bush

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Sayoria
02/19/22 11:25:28 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

Because Faux News said "LETGOBRANDINZ"

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Machete
02/19/22 11:30:48 PM
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Thos is stupid.

donald was an apocalyptic catastrophe and humanity is lucky to have survived it.

biden is just kinda... a little bit sub par

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Ricemills
02/19/22 11:34:16 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.

you know who those people are, and it's the same reason why other people voted biden.

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jsb0714
02/19/22 11:42:59 PM
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cardgum posted...
I still don't understand why people hate Biden.
Four years of Trump and he is the best the Democrats could come up with? Inexcusable.
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AsucaHayashi
02/20/22 12:01:59 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
republicans are actively trying to destroy the country more blatantly than ever before

somehow you're saying that republicans have become more insane after trump left office which is quite an ambitious statement.

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LightHawKnight
02/20/22 12:04:46 AM
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OVERGOATED posted...
Biden is a perfectly functional president. He's not particularly great but calling him a bad president would be a misstep.


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K181
02/20/22 12:05:07 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
maybe he should try calling some governors

He has, so Im not sure what

and threatening them?

ah, so abuse of power that would in every conceivable way utterly backfire?

Neato.

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Copyright2011
02/20/22 12:44:16 AM
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Both of em are crap.

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JBaLLEN66
02/20/22 12:59:04 AM
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OVERGOATED posted...
Biden is a perfectly functional president. He's not particularly great but calling him a bad president would be a misstep.


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GrimConArtist
02/20/22 1:00:50 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Because hes utterly fucking useless in a time when republicans are actively trying to destroy the country more blatantly than ever before

That's more a symptom of our failing government system than Biden himself.

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FortuneCookie
02/20/22 10:56:31 AM
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GrimConArtist posted...
That's more a symptom of our failing government system than Biden himself.

That's like saying something is a team problem and not a coach problem. He's supposed to be the guy who holds everything together and makes sure things operate as they should. It is absolutely his problem.
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DowntownMrSmith
02/20/22 11:08:00 AM
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Biden would be an above average president if it werent for the obvious and concerning senility issues. Can you picture him doing another presidential debate?
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FortuneCookie
02/20/22 11:10:51 AM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Biden would be an above average president if it werent for the obvious and concerning senility issues. Can you picture him doing another presidential debate?

It's kind of an alarming thought.

If Biden's not out there doing the next presidential debate, who will be? I'd love to see Kamala Harris as president, but the fact of the matter is that she is baseline unpopular.
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Error1355
02/20/22 11:12:47 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
That's like saying something is a team problem and not a coach problem. He's supposed to be the guy who holds everything together and makes sure things operate as they should. It is absolutely his problem.
I don't think you understand how the three branches of the government works and checks an balances intended for all of them. Biden doesn't have control over the entire government nor should he ever.

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DowntownMrSmith
02/20/22 11:13:12 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
It's kind of an alarming thought.

If Biden's not out there doing the next presidential debate, who will be? I'd love to see Kamala Harris as president, but the fact of the matter is that she is baseline unpopular.

Harris will have to be the nominee, Democrats will be accused of racism and misogyny for passing over the elected VP for no good reason. It will be a Harris-Buttigieg ticket with no real primary competition.
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eston
02/20/22 11:19:46 AM
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You don't have to like Biden, but trying to put him on Trump's level is just lol

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Heineken14
02/20/22 11:29:55 AM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Can you picture him doing another presidential debate?


Sure, why not? He cruised through the last generals. Even looking at the primaries where he had not total buffoons to go against he was still servicable. He's showed no signs of changing so there's no reason to believe he would struggle again.

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TommyG663513
02/20/22 12:36:41 PM
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Error1355 posted...
I don't think you understand how the three branches of the government works and checks an balances intended for all of them. Biden doesn't have control over the entire government nor should he ever.

I don't think you understand that despite the checks and balances Biden is still the most powerful individual and hasn't done that good of a job on things he has complete control over. For example, cancelling student debt, in any amount, is 100% something he can do. Picking Kamala Harris as his VP was 100% his decision.

He certainly has valid grievances that congress is stalling his actions, but that doesn't explain everything.

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TommyG663513
02/20/22 12:39:55 PM
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eston posted...
You don't have to like Biden, but trying to put him on Trump's level is just lol

This

Trump was awful and Biden is just kind of "meh" at best. Still find the Biden presidency to be very disappointing at this point.

I guess I was expecting some sort of very dramatic turnaround of our political system after Trump and that is nowhere close to being a reality.

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ultimate reaver
02/20/22 12:50:33 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Sure, why not? He cruised through the last generals. Even looking at the primaries where he had not total buffoons to go against he was still servicable. He's showed no signs of changing so there's no reason to believe he would struggle again.

Idk how you look at that him being a nonentity in the primaries and the car crash that was the general and call that "serviceable." Maybe you just have really low standards because even his own staff has been trying to keep him away from public speaking that has much of any interaction aspect to it


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Heineken14
02/20/22 1:08:28 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...


Idk how you look at that him being a nonentity in the primaries and the car crash that was the general and call that "serviceable." Maybe you just have really low standards because even his own staff has been trying to keep him away from public speaking that has much of any interaction aspect to it



Because he wasn't a car crash in the general.

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thronedfire2
02/20/22 2:09:57 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
This

Trump was awful and Biden is just kind of "meh" at best. Still find the Biden presidency to be very disappointing at this point.

I guess I was expecting some sort of very dramatic turnaround of our political system after Trump and that is nowhere close to being a reality.

he could maybe cancel all federal student loan debt but it would take years to go through with the repubs challenging it. And then wed just end up with a republican president who reverses the policy

and private loans are the problem anyway not federal ones


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WilliamPorygon
02/20/22 3:05:25 PM
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We haven't had a good president since Clinton tbh

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Intro2Logic
02/20/22 3:12:25 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
he could maybe cancel all federal student loan debt but it would take years to go through with the repubs challenging it. And then wed just end up with a republican president who reverses the policy
Given the choice, I say make Republicans reimpose debt on people. See how committed they are to that.

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MrToothHasYou
02/20/22 3:35:28 PM
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WilliamPorygon posted...
We haven't had a good president
Coulda stopped right there and still make a pretty strong argument that youre not wrong

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TommyG663513
02/21/22 8:32:30 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
he could maybe cancel all federal student loan debt but it would take years to go through with the repubs challenging it. And then wed just end up with a republican president who reverses the policy

and private loans are the problem anyway not federal ones

He can do it by executive action.

Private loans are a big problem too, but don't act like dropping all federal student loan debt wouldn't be a significant boost to many millions.

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