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bloodyarts
02/19/22 12:42:49 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/gunmaker-under-fire-launching-ar-15-for-kids-reports-say-2022-2?amp
JR-15 is a actually a lighter, smaller AR-15 designed for children to use. In this way, gun responsibility can be learned and appreciated at a younger age.

The manufacturer, WEE1 Tactical says, "We believe that this introduction early on will produce a deep respect for firearms that continue and last for a lifetime of safety."
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What_
02/19/22 12:43:55 PM
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What fucking idiots
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Robot2600
02/19/22 12:44:10 PM
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unfortunately, belief doesn't change the provable fact that people with guns are much more likely to be shot by a gun

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R1masher
02/19/22 12:44:13 PM
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Does the ar stand for adult rifle?

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bloodyarts
02/19/22 1:12:23 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/7/AAA7ChAAC8gf.jpg
Look at the cute little skulls...
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CyricZ
02/19/22 1:13:17 PM
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Wow those logos are a hoot.

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Dark_Spiret
02/19/22 1:49:37 PM
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might as well just teach them on a real AR. they arnt that heavy, large or kick that much or just use any small bolt action rifle.

marketing aside, its a single shot .22 with a 1-round magazine that has additional safety features that makes it harder for younger kids to manipulate by themselves. despite its looks it complys with every AWB in any state that has them which makes me think, in combination with the marketing that this is mostly to troll the libs.
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lilORANG
02/19/22 1:51:53 PM
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Don't BB guns and airsoft guns basically serve that purpose now? I remember shooting cans off a wheelbarrow in my backyard and I didn't need an assault rifle to do it.

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monkmith
02/19/22 1:54:03 PM
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we need to start bullet vaccination campaigns, just shoot everyone in the leg to get their lead immunity up and gun violence will become a non-issue!

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SSJPurple
02/19/22 1:56:27 PM
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So kids arent responsible enough to drive until 15/16 but theyre plenty responsible to have mini ARs at a younger age

Wut?

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Southernfatman
02/19/22 1:56:28 PM
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People need to stop making their hobbies their identity as a person. Stuff like this is for people who are obsessed with guns and want their kids to be obsessed with guns. Guns is their lifestyle. I was trained at a young age about guns and safety and I'm a gun owner today. My dad had plenty of guns and loved shooting them, but he wasn't a gun nut who made his life revolve around them. They were still considered tools that can be dangerous.

People who buy stuff like this are the types who are just obsessed.

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Alteres
02/19/22 1:59:38 PM
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Its a single shot 22, I had one with a ten round mag at 13.

Didnt look like that, looked like your grandpas squirrel gun though. No one ever complained about that.

I think its a weird outrage attempt as well.

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Dark_Spiret
02/19/22 2:00:12 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
So kids arent responsible enough to drive until 15/16 but theyre plenty responsible to have mini ARs at a younger age
theres a difference between letting them have it and letting them shoot it. i learned to shoot when i was 6, had my first gun bought for me when i was 9. none of them were just sitting around that i could play with. they were locked up 24/7 and i had to ask to see them and was under supervision every time i did until i got much older.
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SSJPurple
02/19/22 2:19:11 PM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
theres a difference between letting them have it and letting them shoot it. i learned to shoot when i was 6, had my first gun bought for me when i was 9. none of them were just sitting around that i could play with. they were locked up 24/7 and i had to ask to see them and was under supervision every time i did until i got much older.

Thats great, it sounds like you had responsible parents. So did I.

However I hear plenty of stories about little Timmy getting daddys Glock and putting a hole in Susies chest too.

Point being I think there should be mandatory safety classes for owning. It wont prevent all irresponsible gun owners from being irresponsible but like earning your drivers license it at least shows they have (at the time) proven they can safely have a firearm.

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monkmith
02/19/22 2:22:50 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Thats great, it sounds like you had responsible parents. So did I.

However I hear plenty of stories about little Timmy getting daddys Glock and putting a hole in Susies chest too.

Point being I think there should be mandatory safety classes for owning. It wont prevent all irresponsible gun owners from being irresponsible but like earning your drivers license it at least shows they have (at the time) proven they can safely have a firearm.
but see, solutions like that just get you called an unamerican nazi communist soy boy liberal.

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SSJPurple
02/19/22 2:25:27 PM
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monkmith posted...
but see, solutions like that just get you called an unamerican nazi communist soy boy liberal.

Im a liberal but Im not anti-gun.

I do think we should have some common sense laws in place such as mandatory safety courses though.

As things are its easier to get guns than it is to get a drivers license and I find that nonsensical

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monkmith
02/19/22 2:29:59 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Im a liberal but Im not anti-gun.

I do think we should have some common sense laws in place such as mandatory safety courses though.

As things are its easier to get guns than it is to get a drivers license and I find that nonsensical
yeah but if you ignore most of early american history and a good half of the actual 2nd amendment then you have the complete right to all the guns you could ever want without government oversight, and to say otherwise makes you a cuck or something i dont know.

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COVxy
02/19/22 2:33:38 PM
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bloodyarts posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/7/AAA7ChAAC8gf.jpg
Look at the cute little skulls...

How is this not The Onion?

Edit: posting the entire image because all together...whew.
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SSJPurple
02/19/22 2:33:57 PM
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monkmith posted...
yeah but if you ignore most of early american history and a good half of the actual 2nd amendment then you have the complete right to all the guns you could ever want without government oversight, and to say otherwise makes you a cuck or something i dont know.

Id argue the Fathers lacked the ability to see into the future. We should interpret the amendment within the context of when it was written and keep in mind what kind of guns were around then vs now

According to their logic I have the 2A right to own a Rocket Launcher, maybe even a tank or some nukeslol

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Alteres
02/19/22 2:35:10 PM
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You know, now I am curious what the rules were for cannons back then.

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monkmith
02/19/22 2:35:57 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Id argue the Fathers lacked the ability to see into the future. We should interpret the amendment within the context of when it was written and keep in mind what kind of guns were around then vs now

According to their logic I have the 2A right to own a Rocket Launcher, maybe even a tank or some nukeslol
i have a right to put a davy crockett in my front yard, but trying to buy one only got me put on a watch list!

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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 2:41:10 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Id argue the Fathers lacked the ability to see into the future. We should interpret the amendment within the context of when it was written and keep in mind what kind of guns were around then vs now

According to their logic I have the 2A right to own a Rocket Launcher, maybe even a tank or some nukeslol

Even when the bill of rights was being drafted new technologies in firearms were being explored and tested, meaning they had the foresight to acknowledge advancements in technology in all fields. It's why freedom of speech, religion and assembly isn't regulated to printing presses or spoken word right now.

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theAteam
02/19/22 2:42:12 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Id argue the Fathers lacked the ability to see into the future.

Even they knew that which is why they created the amendment process.

People are always trying to contextualize things in the minds of the founding fathers when in reality the founding fathers knew the document was not infallible and should change with the times.

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__aCEr__
02/19/22 2:50:31 PM
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The logo and marketing is pretty terrible but it's not uncommon for a kid to be given a .22 rifle as a first gun.

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UnfairRepresent
02/19/22 2:53:03 PM
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No pro gun American has ever ever ever explained to me how more guns and less gun control are the solution to the gun problem when the gun problem is unique to America in the whole world.

No other country suffers from the same issues and yet the proposed solution is to double down...

Would be like if people in Finland started eating chairs and then when people started suffering from their chair eating, they insisted the solution was to start eating sofas

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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 3:00:57 PM
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For me the argument isn't gun saturation but gun education. While operating a firearm isn't hard, proper safety and education to reduce the "allure" of their power should be taken. If we're going to have a second amendment it should be exercised appropriately.

And gun bans/restrictions only serve criminals.

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SiO4
02/19/22 3:02:51 PM
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So, I guess we are over BB Guns?

...And ya, that marketing is sickening.
They went full-on, Totenkopf for kids.

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UnfairRepresent
02/19/22 3:03:04 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...


And gun bans/restrictions only serve criminals.

UnfairRepresent posted...
No pro gun American has ever ever ever explained to me how more guns and less gun control are the solution to the gun problem when the gun problem is unique to America in the whole world.

No other country suffers from the same issues and yet the proposed solution is to double down...

Would be like if people in Finland started eating chairs and then when people started suffering from their chair eating, they insisted the solution was to start eating sofas


It's like fucking clockwork

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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 3:07:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It's like fucking clockwork

No one's talking to you.

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UnfairRepresent
02/19/22 3:10:26 PM
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I noticed.

It was in my first 9 words

UnfairRepresent posted...
No pro gun American has ever ever ever explained to me how more guns and less gun control are the solution to the gun problem when the gun problem is unique to America in the whole world.

No other country suffers from the same issues and yet the proposed solution is to double down...

Would be like if people in Finland started eating chairs and then when people started suffering from their chair eating, they insisted the solution was to start eating sofas


Because you're too scared to actually have to challenge your world view.

It's really such a cowardly stance

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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 3:10:57 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I noticed.

It was in my first 9 words

Because you're too scared to actually have to challenge your world view.

It's really such a cowardly stance

No one's talking to you.

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monkmith
02/19/22 3:12:54 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
No one's talking to you.
why, he's not wrong here. no amount of education is going to fix the gun issue in this country, as long as getting a gun is as simple as buying one form a gun show with no background check anywhere in the country we're going to keep having the same issues.

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Dragon239
02/19/22 3:14:09 PM
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Anybody know what the "tamper-resistant safety" is?
Is it like, a thing to makes it harder to swap to fire but easy to go back to safe?

If it's hard to go to safe at all, seems bad.

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bloodyarts
02/19/22 3:55:30 PM
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Alteres posted...
Its a single shot 22
It ships with 1RD, but 5RD and 10RD magazine options are available, which I have a feeling will be Day One purchases.
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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 4:48:58 PM
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monkmith posted...
why, he's not wrong here. no amount of education is going to fix the gun issue in this country, as long as getting a gun is as simple as buying one form a gun show with no background check anywhere in the country we're going to keep having the same issues.

We should really bolster programs for suicide prevention, as that accounts for roughly half of all gun deaths in the US per year. I'd imagine that and proper storage of firearms alone would be more impactful than trying to ban them or pass laws that restrict, hinder, or outright outlaw certain guns or features. In my opinion at least.


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Flauros
02/19/22 5:15:39 PM
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Youth rifles have been a thing for hundreds of years. Why are people acting like this is a new thing?

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Dark_Spiret
02/19/22 5:27:42 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
No pro gun American has ever ever ever explained to me how more guns and less gun control are the solution to the gun problem when the gun problem is unique to America in the whole world.
The "gun problem" only really exists due to a host of other problems and inequalities. Plenty of other countries have substantially higher gun regulations yet higher gun fatalities and others have fairly loose restrictions (in comparison to most of Europe) and still substantially lower levels of gun violence. The same can be said for US states and counties. Correlation is not causation. The real defining characteristics come in many problems that aid in ones will to commit violence and means to cut down on crime in general. Poverty, social safety nets, racial demographics, political discourse/lack of representation, land mass, gangs, drugs, police forces/monitoring in general (which many countries have adopted a police state mentality) ect. Plenty of 1st world countries have these issues, but not to the US' scale. Plus you can also be dealing with the cultures of the people. Japan for instance has almost no guns and yet their suicide rate is higher.

In general Guns ARE a factor as its impossible to not be considering theres more guns in the country than people, but they are not THE factor. If that was the case given the amount in circulation (roughly half of the whole worlds small arms) then the US would be an apocalyptic wasteland which its not. Most actual gun deaths tend to come in the form of suicides which are hard to counter (especially when the next 2 most common methods carries with them high success rates), gang warfare which they tend to have the resources to get what they want and domestic violence which can be easily replicated through a host of other means. Plus many other countries tend to take up the slack in other methods of violence.

Better job security, easier access to education and healthcare, better political representation, legalization of more drugs ect. would go a LOT farther in solving violence in general which extends to the "gun problem". A lot of people turn to violence, self harm and gangs due to thinking things are hopeless to an extent and those are their only way of going forward. The best way to solve that is giving people signs of a brighter future. not to say thats an easy task, especially with certain parties pushing back or going in bad directions.
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Axiom
02/19/22 5:28:33 PM
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How is that not an onion article
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545x39
02/19/22 7:09:40 PM
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Dragon239 posted...
Anybody know what the "tamper-resistant safety" is?
Is it like, a thing to makes it harder to swap to fire but easy to go back to safe?

If it's hard to go to safe at all, seems bad.
The safety probably locks so you can lock it in safe mode.

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MabusIncarnate
02/19/22 7:13:13 PM
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Alteres posted...
You know, now I am curious what the rules were for cannons back then.
Standard cannons were fine, it's those assault cannons that people had so much trouble obtaining.

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Fade2black001
02/19/22 7:14:48 PM
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This is a good thing

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Kloe_Rinz
02/19/22 7:16:01 PM
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america is absolutely batshit insane when it comes to this shit. What the hell is wrong with yall

honestly this is so wacky I cant believe its not the onion
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Flauros
02/19/22 8:36:31 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Id argue the Fathers lacked the ability to see into the future. We should interpret the amendment within the context of when it was written and keep in mind what kind of guns were around then vs now

According to their logic I have the 2A right to own a Rocket Launcher, maybe even a tank or some nukeslol

>Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.
>Four ruffians break into my house.
>"What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.
>Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
>Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog.
>I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.
>Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.
>He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended


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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 8:38:04 PM
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Flauros posted...
>Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.
>Four ruffians break into my house.
>"What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.
>Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
>Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog.
>I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.
>Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.
>He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended

My absolute favorite shitpost of all time. Thank you, it's been a while since I've seen it.

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TheVipaGTS
02/19/22 8:40:23 PM
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Lets make cars for kids so they can drive on the freeway and learn car safety.

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Smackems
02/19/22 8:42:55 PM
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I started learning to shoot and handle guns at 12. Started with single shot and pump action shot guns. Had tons of supervision as well and they were locked up when we were done

Imo that seems like the way to go about it if you wanna start them young, but I wouldn't wanna see it done younger than 12

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Malcrasternus
02/19/22 8:53:20 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Lets make cars for kids so they can drive on the freeway and learn car safety.

Shit take, shit argument, 3/10 got a response at least.

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MI4 REAL
02/19/22 8:55:17 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
For me the argument isn't gun saturation but gun education. While operating a firearm isn't hard, proper safety and education to reduce the "allure" of their power should be taken. If we're going to have a second amendment it should be exercised appropriately.

And gun bans/restrictions only serve criminals.


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SiO4
02/19/22 8:55:54 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...


My absolute favorite shitpost of all time. Thank you, it's been a while since I've seen it.


Lest we forget

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