Board 8 > It's kinda funny youtube warns you about a tv show clip involving suicide.

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Turducken
02/14/22 2:50:14 AM
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Self-harm? You sure you want to deal with that heavy subject matter?

Hurting others? Well come on in, sport!

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Underleveled
02/14/22 8:14:25 AM
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Depictions of self-harm can be extremely triggering for people with mental illnesses or have survived suicide attempts. Sorry to inconvenience you with a 1-second warning so that they don't have to unexpectedly see something that could put them in a truly bad place.

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Tom Bombadil
02/14/22 8:48:20 AM
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It's more likely to lead to action.

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colliding
02/14/22 9:28:44 AM
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yeah it's not funny or surprising really

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KingButz
02/14/22 10:17:28 AM
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Hilarious

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imthestuntman
02/14/22 8:24:22 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Depictions of self-harm can be extremely triggering for people with mental illnesses or have survived suicide attempts. Sorry to inconvenience you with a 1-second warning so that they don't have to unexpectedly see something that could put them in a truly bad place.
There are also a lot more people that have attempted suicide or self harmed than have nearly been murdered, at least I assume.

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Turducken
02/15/22 1:25:21 AM
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Underleveled posted...
Depictions of self-harm can be extremely triggering for people with mental illnesses or have survived suicide attempts. Sorry to inconvenience you with a 1-second warning so that they don't have to unexpectedly see something that could put them in a truly bad place.

Yeah, it was pretty stupid. It also suggests that hurting yourself is worse than hurting others (even multiple innocent others). I've struggled with suicidal thoughts for my entire adult life and probably some time before. Like, have your little 'Trigger Warning' if you want, but where is it for the murder scene? Maybe I had an uncle who died in a car crash. Bet I can find a clip of a show where someone dies in a car crash and youtube's fine with it. There's so many things that 'should' have it if this does.

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NFUN
02/15/22 1:32:47 AM
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do you know what bayesian statistics is?

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foolm0r0n
02/15/22 1:32:58 AM
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Turducken posted...
I've struggled with suicidal thoughts for my entire adult life and probably some time before
And how often have you struggled with murderous thoughts? Think for 5 seconds before you defeat your own argument

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Aecioo
02/15/22 1:35:03 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
And how often have you struggled with murderous thoughts? Think for 5 seconds before you defeat your own argument

i agree 100% but there is literally a topic currently on the front page about a user struggling with murderous thoughts lol

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Turducken
02/15/22 1:41:26 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...

And how often have you struggled with murderous thoughts? Think for 5 seconds before you defeat your own argument

Often enough!

Where's my trigger warning for that sad movie scene where the kid's dog dies? I lost a dog once.
Where's my trigger warning for scenes where characters smoke? My dad smoked himself to death.

It's doubly goofy because youtube gives me this helpful warning after searching for 'so-and-so hangs himself' on Show. Does youtube's mighty circuits not know I looked for this myself?

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banananor
02/15/22 2:04:36 AM
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Yeah, I think it's just a numbers game.

More people have struggled with suicide than the murder of a loved one

If you got a lobby group together for whatever new warning type you wanted you might be able to pull it off

The more ridiculous part is when murder is okay but nipples are not

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StealThisSheen
02/15/22 3:57:10 AM
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I'm confused why, when people gave you a perfectly legit explanation why, you just keep doubling down.

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Turducken
02/15/22 4:07:48 AM
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Doubling down on...being unsatisfied why this one thing is apparently the only thing youtube gives a shit about warning me about (again, particularly when I looked for it to begin with)? All the horrible things that could Trigger people, and this is where the tube draws the line. I find it strange.

I certainly hope this alleviates your confusion.

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HanOfTheNekos
02/15/22 6:08:31 AM
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It also seems like this is the exact trigger that you should be looking for an avoiding.

You ok, bud?

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banananor
02/15/22 6:52:08 AM
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Are you suggesting they should institute a trigger warning warning?

I think you're on to something

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foolm0r0n
02/15/22 8:17:26 AM
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Turducken posted...
Doubling down on...being unsatisfied
No, being daft about the reason for the warning.

Turducken posted...
Often enough!
You never mentioned it, but fine. What's the % chance you would act on suicidal thoughts vs murderous thoughts?

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Llarian
02/15/22 9:38:41 AM
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Where's my trigger warning for that sad movie scene where the kid's dog dies? I lost a dog once.
Where's my trigger warning for scenes where characters smoke? My dad smoked himself to death.
PSA for anyone who is not aware of Does the Dog Die, an online catalog of films/TV/books with a list of mostly spoiler-free info surrounding the various upsetting things that could happen in a film [drug use, suicide, vomiting, needles, childbirth, to name a few]. This info is provided by users, they will say that things happened [e.g. 'a character is stabbed'] but won't use their name and will provide extra info you might need ['...you see the knife enter, but no blood is seen' or 'blood splatters the wall but the aftermath is offscreen']

I use it all the time bc I can't handle live-action blood/gore.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/22 9:46:39 AM
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So what you're saying is you want ratings for youtube like there are ratings for games and movies?

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MZero
02/15/22 10:25:01 AM
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you have a strange sense of humor

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Steiner
02/15/22 11:03:05 AM
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why are we all engaging the bad faith account today

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Underleveled
02/15/22 11:20:28 AM
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TC you're obviously being intentionally obtuse at this point.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/22 11:28:11 AM
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Steiner posted...
why are we all engaging the bad faith account today

have you been on b8 before

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pjbasis
02/15/22 12:10:10 PM
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Murder is so ubiquitous in fiction, it would have to be portrayed in a very realistic/gorey way to require a warning.

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Turducken
02/15/22 12:31:52 PM
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Underleveled posted...
TC you're obviously being intentionally obtuse at this point.

I'm being intentionally obtuse when you've got got-dang gibletheads somehow missing the forest for the trees here to focus on the very first part of the point (the one thing that gets the warning) and ignoring the 'Why don't the tons of other touchy subject matters get the same...love?' If youtube really cared it could be more be more diligent in its warnings. I don't think I've ever seen this before. Hell, I know I've watched this exact clip before and it didn't warn me then. It's a wonder I made it!

But to the person who asked, I wasn't looking for pointers on how to hang myself, no (assuming the 'are you ok' was legitimate and hopefully not one of those smarmy internet replies). Just watching clips from the Sopranos. It's a good scene, and not the only one I watched (fortunately the others were generally other people being murdered by mobsters. One was just about Tony's son being...oh, himself).

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/22 12:40:07 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
It's more likely to lead to action.


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StartAllOver
02/15/22 2:18:33 PM
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@Turducken

Are you an alt or something?

I have been posting here since 2008 and I have NEVER seen your name before, until now.

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Steiner
02/15/22 2:19:00 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
have you been on b8 before

no first time what's it like

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Turducken
02/15/22 2:51:16 PM
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StartAllOver posted...
@Turducken

Are you an alt or something?

I have been posting here since 2008 and I have NEVER seen your name before, until now.

That's not surprising; I pretty much exclusively lurk here.

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GTM
02/15/22 3:07:58 PM
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There have been reasons why given in this topic (eg. stats on likelihood). I don't necessarily agree with where the line is drawn/why the line is drawn where it is, as my mind does go all-or-nothing and need explanations to every corner case, but it usually just what society is used to at this point in time, even if I differ from those values.

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Underleveled
02/15/22 3:09:11 PM
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Great, now Preston's here. Truly a topic of the year candidate.

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Turducken
02/15/22 3:15:31 PM
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Mm. Well, not lurking has apparently been a huge mistake. I'll close up shop here.

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HanOfTheNekos
02/15/22 3:20:03 PM
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You posited something that caught your attention and other chimed in with explanations.

Seems pretty standard fare conversation to me.

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Turducken
02/15/22 3:24:59 PM
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I dunno. 'Topic of the year candidate' sounds like it was pretty shit. At any rate, this thing's gotten about as much mileage as it's gonna get. All that seems to be left is going in circles with me apparently being an idiot on this and being called as such.

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GTM
02/15/22 3:28:43 PM
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I don't think you're an idiot, but maybe just obsessive with finding an answer suitable for you that may not exist (so you double down when the answer isn't to your liking)

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HanOfTheNekos
02/15/22 3:36:35 PM
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The topic of the year comment was much more directed at Preston's appearance

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Turducken
02/15/22 3:58:15 PM
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I guess (who is Preston?). I still think it's run its course here, but I guess I'll leave it unlocked in case anyone else wants to talk on it. I doubt I've got anything more to say that isn't just going in circles, but hey.

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