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WalkingLobsters
02/10/22 10:33:02 PM
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Thankfully we finally have some diversity. It was disgusting seeing all of the heroes be cast as whites while all of the villains were played by minorities

https://nerdist.com/article/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-rings-of-power-characters-plot-show-production-insights/

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WalkingLobsters
02/10/22 10:35:19 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Watch your tongue

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HylianFox
02/10/22 10:35:32 PM
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Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys

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Guide
02/10/22 10:35:36 PM
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why do you love generating internet drama so much, tc

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Flauros
02/10/22 10:36:05 PM
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Gandalf can finally be portrayed the way he was always meant to be. A proud woman of color.

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HairyQueen
02/10/22 10:37:17 PM
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DarthAragorn
02/10/22 10:37:18 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

There are, in the lands south of Mordor and Gondor

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Esrac
02/10/22 10:38:06 PM
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Might be a drow?

I didn't think LotR had those.
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The_Creep_2020
02/10/22 10:38:41 PM
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Esrac posted...
Might be a drow?

I didn't think LotR had those.
Making the elves of colour evil sounds about right for Tolkein

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-GalacticBass-
02/10/22 10:39:59 PM
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lol troll topic.

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Background_Guy
02/10/22 10:41:53 PM
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getting mad about black elves
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rexcrk
02/10/22 10:43:07 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
Thankfully we finally have some diversity. It was disgusting seeing all of the heroes be cast as whites while all of the villains were played by minorities

https://nerdist.com/article/amazon-lord-of-the-rings-series-rings-of-power-characters-plot-show-production-insights/





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Turtlebread
02/10/22 10:45:05 PM
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elves are asian

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monkmith
02/10/22 10:45:34 PM
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they took the beards away from the dwarven women, apparently they weren't beautiful enough or something!

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MabusIncarnate
02/10/22 10:46:28 PM
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I'm sure TC cares SO MUCH about racial diversity.

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refmon
02/10/22 11:01:16 PM
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Flauros posted...
Gandalf can finally be portrayed the way he was always meant to be. A proud woman of color.


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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 1:32:24 AM
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monkmith posted...
they took the beards away from the dwarven women, apparently they weren't beautiful enough or something!
I loved in Witcher that they gave the dwarven woman a beard

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PatrickMahomes
02/11/22 1:41:08 AM
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archedsoul
02/11/22 1:41:29 AM
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Wait, will Olorin actually be in this? Will they be showing the Undying Lands? He and the other Istari haven't been deployed to Middle Earth yet.

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pegusus123456
02/11/22 1:45:07 AM
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I don't care about the race of the actors, but the show sounds like a slow-motion car crash.

The showrunners, Patrick McKay and JD Payne, are agonizingly aware of the pressure. Their series will juggle 22 stars and multiple story lines [...]
Some characters will be familiar, and they will be the initial attraction as viewers watch their legendary fates unfurl. But the entirely new faces may ultimately become even more involving, since their destinies are literally unwritten. [...]
Just as Tolkien entrusted his quest to Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee, Amazon chose two unlikely newcomers. McKay and Payne are high school friends from northern Virginia who have been writing in Hollywood together for 13 years. The Rings of Power is their first credited IMDB listing. They knowits astounding to them too. Weve worked on so many projects with so many awesome and exciting people that never got made or worked on things that did get made and we didnt get credit, says McKay. We were a little bit of a dark horse. And Amazon talked to absolutely everybodywhoever had any idea for Lord of the Rings. Adds Payne: We were passionate about the material and had a take that matched Amazons appetites and ambition. They also apparently had a significant champion in J.J. Abrams, who knew them from their writing on a Star Trek movie and reportedly sang their praises. [...]
A project of this size would never be pulled off alone. Amazon executives, still relatively new to original content, assembled an experienced support team. Game of Thrones coexecutive producer Bryan Cogman stepped in as an adviser to help McKay and Payne get the project off the ground, and veteran filmmaker J.A. Bayona (Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom) established the tone of the series by directing the first two episodes. [...]
McKay says the goal was to make a show for everyone, for kids who are 11, 12, and 13, even though sometimes they might have to pull the blanket up over their eyes if its a little too scary. [...]
One of the very specific things the texts say is that hobbits never did anything historic or noteworthy before the Third Age, says McKay. But really, does it feel like Middle-earth if you dont have hobbits or something like hobbits in it? [...]
One original story line centers on a silvan elf named Arondir, played by Ismael Cruz Crdova, who will be the first person of color to play an elf onscreen in a Tolkien project. He is involved in a forbidden relationship with Bronwyn, a human village healer played by Nazanin Boniadi, a British actor of Iranian heritage. Elsewhere, a Brit of Jamaican descent, Sir Lenny Henry, plays a harfoot elder, and Sophia Nomvete has a scene-stealing role as a dwarven princess named Disa the latter being the first Black woman to play a dwarf in a Lord of the Rings movie, as well as the first female dwarf. When Amazon released photos of its multicultural cast, even without character names or plot details, the studio endured a reflexive attack from trolls the anonymous online kind. [...]
In the novels, the aforementioned things take place over thousands of years, but Payne and McKay have compressed events into a single point in time. [...]
The driving question behind the production, he adds, was this: Can we come up with the novel Tolkien never wrote and do it as the mega-event series that could only happen now?

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/11/22 2:07:07 AM
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Yeah the race of the actors is probably the last thing I am concerned with on this show, there are a lot of red flags that are making me hesitant

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Ricemills
02/11/22 2:12:08 AM
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his ears looks pointy.
don't tell me he's a dark elf lmao,.

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ColdOne666
02/11/22 2:18:41 AM
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Who's alt is this?

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pegusus123456
02/11/22 2:21:51 AM
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The dark elf jokes are super racist FYI

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Ricemills
02/11/22 3:29:34 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The dark elf jokes are super racist FYI

oh now I'm the racist for pointing the racism?
never change, CE.


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DeadBankerDream
02/11/22 3:41:09 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
veteran filmmaker J.A. Bayona (Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom) established the tone of the series by directing the first two episodes. [...]
Oh.

Oh no.

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Xethuminra
02/11/22 3:54:46 AM
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I would be extremely interested in seeing Lord of the Rings done with a cast of dark skinned people.

would the orcs still be green?
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bulletproofvita
02/11/22 3:58:09 AM
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Will there still be hobbitses?

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Xethuminra
02/11/22 4:00:52 AM
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or would they be yellow? or white?
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project_night
02/11/22 4:04:58 AM
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Diversity in fantasy is great if it makes sense. Wheel of Time was pretty immersion breaking when some random isolated medieval town had more diversity than most modern large American cities, lol. If it was maybe it was a huge trading city with travelers from all over the world, it would make sense.

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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 4:07:27 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
I would be extremely interested in seeing Lord of the Rings done with a cast of dark skinned people.

would the orcs still be green?
Were they green in the films?

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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 4:08:12 AM
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project_night posted...
Diversity in fantasy is great if it makes sense. Wheel of Time was pretty immersion breaking when some random isolated medieval town had more diversity than most modern large American cities, lol. If it was maybe it was a huge trading city with travelers from all over the world, it would make sense.

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Is diversity in fantasy the new honesty in journalism?

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Mibahlzitch
02/11/22 4:10:32 AM
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oh no, everyone isn't white, this scares me so much i must be sarcastic about it

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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 4:14:15 AM
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Mibahlzitch posted...
oh no, everyone isn't white, this scares me so much i must be sarcastic about it
Its pretty fucking telling, to be honest.

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-GalacticBass-
02/11/22 4:15:12 AM
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Oh no, a mythology based on northern europe where predominantly white folk live has too many white people! There's no other way, this MUST be racist!

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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 4:15:45 AM
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-GalacticBass- posted...
Oh no, a mythology based on northern europe where predominantly white folk live has too many white people! There's no other way, this MUST be racist!
Let me guess, you had a whinge and a whine about the Witcher casting, too?

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-GalacticBass-
02/11/22 4:16:35 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Let me guess, you had a whinge and a whine about the Witcher casting, too?

I've never played nor seen Witcher so I can't comment on that.

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Xethuminra
02/11/22 4:19:02 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Were they green in the films?
Yeah

Orcs are dull green. Goblins are bright green.
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The_Creep_2020
02/11/22 4:21:45 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Yeah

Orcs are dull green. Goblins are bright green.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/3/AAeu1yAAC6bT.jpg

Distinctly not green. blue Stilton maybe, but not green.

Also weirdly Felicia Day

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Xethuminra
02/11/22 4:22:48 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/3/AAeu1yAAC6bT.jpg

Distinctly not green. blue Stilton maybe, but not green.

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Ricemills
02/11/22 4:25:55 AM
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weren't orcs and goblins are the same in LotR tho?

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Xethuminra
02/11/22 4:28:06 AM
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Ricemills posted...
weren't orcs and goblins are the same in LotR tho?
Goblins were smaller and more agile

Bigger ears, and bigger eyes
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DeadBankerDream
02/11/22 4:28:24 AM
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Ricemills posted...
weren't orcs and goblins are the same in LotR tho?
Yes.

But it was Xethu who said otherwise so there was no reason to not immediately dismiss it as nonsense.

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Xavier_On_High
02/11/22 4:29:05 AM
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Flauros posted...
Gandalf can finally be portrayed the way he was always meant to be. A proud woman of color.

Gandalf is a formless being beyond mortal comprehension who could take the form of any person, and his form in the books is literally irrelevant to his character. This isn't the barbed zinger you think it is.

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DeadBankerDream
02/11/22 4:29:54 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Gandalf is a formless being beyond mortal comprehension who could take the form of any person, and his form in the books is literally irrelevant to his character. This isn't the barbed zinger you think it is.
Weird reaction to an obvious joke.

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Ricemills
02/11/22 4:32:08 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Gandalf is a formless being beyond mortal comprehension who could take the form of any person, and his form in the books is literally irrelevant to his character. This isn't the barbed zinger you think it is.

this was the actual joke
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/7/AARebuAAC6bX.jpg

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