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Franks flapping (a stim) helps him emotionally regulate, it helps him ground his feelings. His bluntness is a byproduct of him just being direct about his needs and wants from the people and world around him. Hes personable enough, hes just a little awkward.

now the second issue is this chip isnt going to magically teach someone how to fit in with society.

how do you propose to teach someone the social skills they need to thrive when youve got a blank slate?

what does your nephew want

I'm convinced you are just trolling and regret actually posting srs stuff in this topic.

Sorry then, just ignore my post.

Comparing a hypothetical cure for a birth defect that leaves some people completely unable to live independent lives to fucking gay conversion therapy is kind of disgusting and I'm a little surprised to see it coming from you

Ultimately therapy is a coping mechanism designed to foster growth.

Comparing autism to a tumour is tantamount to saying that that the part of the brain responsible for autism should be cut out and removed.

Surely, calling for the lobotomy of anyone with autism is objectively not a good stance to take.

I'm convinced you are just trolling and regret actually posting srs stuff in this topic.

Sorry then, just ignore my post.

the point acemos is trying to make (honestly, I never thought that Id be backing up acemos) is that ultimately the decision needs to be your nephews.

while Im sure that in this situation you want the very best for your nephew, this is a decision that will fundamentally alter their life. Every aspect of their life will be altered.

At the very least, this needs to be brought before your nephew, even as a courtesy.

one of the problems the autistic community faces is that we have advocates who claim to speak for us (looking at you, autism speaks) without actually letting us represent ourselves in any meaningful way.

Therapy is cutting out bad habits. The end result is the same.

Holy shit you people are nuts. If you WANT it then you can get it. You act like this is a FORCED operation that you MUST get!!!!111 Holy fuck, if you dont want it then dont get it. It could help others.

Does Frank want to flap his hands around, or is it caused by a neurodivergent developmental disorder he has no control over? Does he like being blunt, or would he prefer to be able to interact more personably?

Frank has the choice, and if it's a chip (a magical cure-all chip, from the sounds of the interview) - he can flip it back off, if he prefers what it was like before. What's wrong with that? In fact, the Chip - gives Frank a choice, that nature never did.

One is a learned response, helping the individual learn and grow.

the other is cutting out chunks of their brain.

If you cant see the difference, thats on you.

and you ignore parents would force it on their children

you would have ppl force it on adults deemed to be a "burden"

and you ignore the wider implications

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/3/AASpaLAAC3jt.jpg

and how did that cure turn out eventually

*points at logan*

Logan equivalency would be feature government black ops intentionally engineering autistic agents to carry out covert missions from birth. I think it's safe to say that's not going to happen and super hero movies aren't real life.

Holy shit you people are nuts. If you WANT it then you can get it. You act like this is a FORCED operation that you MUST get!!!!111 Holy fuck, if you dont want it then dont get it. It could help others.

no but parents forcing a cure on their kids would happen

and again this technology would not be limited to nerodivergent ppl

it could be used to alter ANYTHING about a childs personality a parent dont like

it could be used to insure they are a fundamentalist christian

and how did that cure turn out eventually

*points at logan*

Is it cutting chunks out of their brain?

Therapy trains your brain to eventually fire off electric signals in a certain way.

How does a chip not accomplish this same thing?

Logan equivalency would be feature government black ops intentionally engineering autistic agents to carry out covert missions from birth. I think it's safe to say that's not going to happen and super hero movies aren't real life.

Pretty sure whatever happened with Logan was unrelated to the cure, although iirc the cure wasn't permanent, it just undid the mutations for a while. Which, for the people who suffered from being mutants, was a reprieve. For the privileged mutants whose powers were a benefit, it kinda sucked. However, iirc the cure was optional either way.

But other people with autism so severe that they need 24/7 care and cannot take care of their own bodily functions might be a different story.

and they cant even go to gamefaqs.gamespot.com

People against a chip but was totally for that electric whatever therapy that cures depression

Imagine hearing about a cure for people whose lives are debilitated and immediately going, what about meeeeeeeeeeee?

not what i said at all ive constantly brought up CONSENT

not what i said at all ive constantly brought up CONSENT

not what i said at all ive constantly brought up CONSENT

not what i said at all ive constantly brought up CONSENT

no but parents forcing a cure on their kids would happen

and again this technology would not be limited to nerodivergent ppl

it could be used to alter ANYTHING about a childs personality a parent dont like

it could be used to insure they are a fundamentalist christian

Do you seriously believe that it would be better for a child with severe cognitive disabilities to wait until 18 for treatment for the sake of consent than have the treatment at a young age?

And what about those that arent? You can just as easily come up a with hypothetical where it push onto any child on the spectrum, and potentially stigmatizing or even criminalizing not doing so.