Current Events > How does CE feel about Jordan Peterson?

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He's a grifter, but also just not very smart.

Republicans like him because he "intellectually whitewashes" traditionalist viewpoints.

I largely agree with you, TC, though don't think he says those things all that intelligently. he's just very good at talking a lot while saying almost nothing of substance

intelligently and softly disguises

I blinked and he went from oddly divisive college professor to blithering madman.

I like the way he articulates himself, I think he has some cool perspectives about psychology, I think his advice is sound though sometimes a little too harsh.

Idk why he's been made out to be some nut job.

I like the way he articulates himself, I think he has some cool perspectives about psychology, I think his advice is sound though sometimes a little too harsh.

Idk why he's been made out to be some nut job.

uses real statistics to somehow tie and disregard other real statistics (men bein victims of street violence and work accidents more often doesn't change the fact that women are killed by their male partners more often too).

The nature of what he says isn't any different. There's just a larger space for him to talk now, so there's a lot more and he feels free being more explicit.

All those people telling you he was a shitbag in 2014 were just as correct then as they are now.

Because he is, and you liking him just makes you look bad.

uses real statistics to somehow tie and disregard other real statistics (men bein victims of street violence and work accidents more often doesn't change the fact that women are killed by their male partners more often too).

Have you seen the 12 Rules? Not read the book, I mean literally just the rules. It's not bad advice, especially for someone who is literally suffering every single day.

the fact that he wrote a generic self-help book is largely irrelevant to any actual critique of him

I'm waiting to see some legit critique though. Feels like it's just assumed to automatically think he sucks but nobody really says why or points it out. They see some of his 'redpilled' followers (which are actually just men that are devoid of positive male influences or experiences so of course they're gonna gravitate towards someone who helps suffering men) and assume that if he's followed by XYZ, he must be XYZ himself. Sometimes it's true but I haven't seen anything that has outright made me repulsed/disgusted at stuff he says.

then congrats, you're a mark

he's a piece of s***.

Ok, excellent retort to "Feels like it's just assumed to automatically think he sucks but nobody really says why or points it out" by saying that

I'm waiting to see some legit critique though. Feels like it's just assumed to automatically think he sucks but nobody really says why or points it out.

Ok, excellent retort to "Feels like it's just assumed to automatically think he sucks but nobody really says why or points it out" by saying that

Well, to give just one example, his attitude towards covid vaccines has become unhinged
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1485108412383993858

Is this a man who is interested in a rational examination of evidence, or someone who is committed to playing tough for the audience of clods he has cultivated for himself?

I'm waiting to see some legit critique though. Feels like it's just assumed to automatically think he sucks but nobody really says why or points it out. They see some of his 'redpilled' followers (which are actually just men that are devoid of positive male influences or experiences so of course they're gonna gravitate towards someone who helps suffering men) and assume that if he's followed by XYZ, he must be XYZ himself. Sometimes it's true but I haven't seen anything that has outright made me repulsed/disgusted at stuff he says.

Haven't seen that, I agree with you that this is bad on his part.

isnt that dude a drug addict?