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DeadSite 01/26/22 5:00:14 PM #1: |
Franchise would be dead if it weren't for the fact Pokemon itself was a phenomenon, but the games themselves have been lackluster for over a decade now Nostalgia is a powerful drug and is about 50% of Nintendo's marketing now --- Imagine pictures of Zendaya here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 01/26/22 5:03:49 PM #2: |
I dunno dude being able to catch up to 150 Pokemons, use them to battle and level up and grow and battle other Pokemon and trainers' Pokemon was hella ambitious especially for a handheld game at the time. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 01/26/22 5:03:53 PM #3: |
So don't play it and stop bitching about it. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/26/22 5:09:08 PM #4: |
What mechanic? You mean monster catching and using them to battle? Something that SMT has started way before-hand? Pokemon got popular because it was a young-audience kind of game and wasn't difficult. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 01/26/22 5:09:38 PM #5: |
"I don't like Pokemon so nobody else is allowed to either" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 01/28/22 1:47:46 PM #6: |
Gamefreak should open up to other consoles --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydneySweenHero 01/28/22 1:49:37 PM #7: |
SMT did it first in 1987, then Dragon Quest 5 did it in the early 90s >_> --- NeonOctopus's Alt #7 >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 01/28/22 1:55:51 PM #8: |
SydneySweenHero posted... SMT did it first in 1987, then Dragon Quest 5 did it in the early 90s >_>Nethack came out in March of 1987, SMT came out in September of 1987. Nethack did monster catching first. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Relient_K 01/28/22 1:55:58 PM #9: |
SMT is older than I am? What? I've only played some of 5 (intend to beat it just haven't gotten much time to play lately), as well as persona 5 and 5 royal. I've played about 1/3rd of 4 Golden as well. --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydneySweenHero 01/28/22 2:01:30 PM #11: |
Relient_K posted... SMT is older than I am? What?Yeah, first it was the light novel called Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei in 1986, then came the NES adaptation/pseudo-sequel game called Megami Tensei in 1987, which had the demon recruitment and negotiation. --- NeonOctopus's Alt #7 >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SydneySweenHero 01/28/22 2:02:11 PM #12: |
ellis123 posted... Nethack came out in March of 1987, SMT came out in September of 1987. Nethack did monster catching first.Huh, I never knew that. Neat! --- NeonOctopus's Alt #7 >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 01/31/22 3:19:24 AM #13: |
Nethack is, in a very weird sense, a Simpson's-esque progenitor of video games as a whole. It's done, perhaps, a majority of the Video Game Things. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 01/31/22 3:25:08 AM #14: |
adventure with cute ass monsters on handheld consoles was very nice --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. https://imgur.com/a/LEjr0RZ waifu courtesy of bnui_ransder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMogALT 01/31/22 4:00:33 AM #15: |
Was monster catching in Nethack at the time, though? Anyway, Pokemon came up with a whole winning formula that really doesn't need much changing. Pick starter, rival fight, explore, gym, explore, gym, ..., E4... Compare that to other RPGs. It gets you attached to your monsters, controls the pace of difficulty while giving you plenty to explore, establishes and gets you attached to the world. It's great for new RPG players, people who literally can't read, and still entertains mature players. I don't think it's just capturing monsters, but the whole formula (and originally great world building) that grabs people's interest. --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 4:06:24 AM #16: |
If no one else can replicate it I don't think it's luck. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 01/31/22 4:06:28 AM #17: |
I take it no-one actually liked ORAS or Sun/Moon according to TC's insistence that Pokemon hasn't been good in over a decade? --- But for you I came this far across the tracks, 10 miles above the limit with no seatbelt Now Playing: Minecraft, Pokemon BD, World Flipper ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 01/31/22 4:07:26 AM #18: |
Punished_Blinx posted... If no one else can replicate it I don't think it's luck.Right? if its as easy as make the same game but better! How come nobody has ever done that? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 01/31/22 4:14:47 AM #19: |
MICHALECOLE posted... Right?Because any game that tries just gets brushed off as a pokemon clone and isn't given a fair chance. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 01/31/22 4:16:32 AM #20: |
IfGodCouldDie posted... Because any game that tries just gets brushed off as a pokemon clone and isn't given a fair chance. Sounds like you have some examples in mind? Do we have a stan of, uh... what were the pokemon clones? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 01/31/22 4:18:12 AM #21: |
IfGodCouldDie posted... Because any game that tries just gets brushed off as a pokemon clone and isn't given a fair chance. It wasn't even that long ago people were hyping up TemTem. Then it came out. Haven't heard a peep since. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/31/22 4:21:28 AM #22: |
What's funny is I learned Japanese specifically for Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest V because I thought the idea of using monsters in your own party was the coolest thing ever. Pokemon blowing up later in the US was a pleasant surprise for me. Though I am not happy with where the franchise is now at all. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarbyIsBack 01/31/22 4:21:33 AM #23: |
MrMallard posted... I take it no-one actually liked ORAS or Sun/Moon according to TC's insistence that Pokemon hasn't been good in over a decade?ORAS was great on account of being Hoenn remakes SuMo and USUM were just not good though. --- The Bagel made me do it. I am the master of dead memes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 01/31/22 4:22:27 AM #24: |
IfGodCouldDie posted... Because any game that tries just gets brushed off as a pokemon clone and isn't given a fair chance.Games like.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 01/31/22 4:27:26 AM #25: |
Is CE still seething about everyone like Legends Arceus? --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Illuminoius 01/31/22 4:28:19 AM #26: |
the series was never good past the novelty of it all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VorpalAxeMan 01/31/22 4:42:06 AM #27: |
MICHALECOLE posted... Games like.. Jade Cocoon Dragon Warrior Monsters Siralim Digimon --- Abba Zabba, you my only friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 01/31/22 4:53:33 AM #28: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted... So don't play it and stop bitching about it. --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 01/31/22 4:58:42 AM #29: |
VorpalAxeMan posted... Jade CocoonNever heard of the first three, but after a quick Google youve got the first two that came out in 1998, so they werent brushed off as Pokmon clones.. they legitimately were Pokmon clones. And then Siralim, from the looks of it, isnt better than Pokmon. Ive never played it, but a quick look at the reviews make it seem like it lacks the heart of what makes Pokmon great. as for digimon, it never really had much similarities to Pokmon besides the monsters ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 01/31/22 7:45:21 AM #30: |
Guide posted... Sounds like you have some examples in mind? Do we have a stan of, uh... what were the pokemon clones?I don't have any off the top of my head, but I recall it happening. Unfortunately I don't play pokemon or similar games so I can't really comment on the substance of the games and what works in similar games. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 01/31/22 7:50:28 AM #31: |
Spectrobes deserved better :( --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 01/31/22 8:10:42 AM #32: |
Catching monsters wasnt the important thing. Being able to trade and battle with other people was the important part. The games were designed around that. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/31/22 8:12:27 AM #33: |
MICHALECOLE posted...
Dragon Quest Monsters might have began in 98 but its based on elements of gameplay in earlier Dragon Quest games. Which predate Pokemon . Apparently in Dragon Quest 5 specifically, you can catch and train monsters . Dragon Quest 5 released in Japan in 1992 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lordgold666 01/31/22 8:15:38 AM #34: |
Lol --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." http://error1355.com/ce/Lordgold666.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sauceje 01/31/22 8:28:31 AM #35: |
I don't think any "Pokemon clone" ever had a character as immediately charming as Pikachu, that's the whole thing right there --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 01/31/22 8:31:40 AM #36: |
sauceje posted... I don't think any "Pokemon clone" ever had a character as immediately charming as Pikachu, that's the whole thing right there The Slime from Dragon Quest is possibly more famous than Pikachu in Japan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/31/22 8:36:22 AM #37: |
Zikten posted... Dragon Quest Monsters might have began in 98 but its based on elements of gameplay in earlier Dragon Quest games. Which predate Pokemon . Apparently in Dragon Quest 5 specifically, you can catch and train monsters . Dragon Quest 5 released in Japan in 1992 In V a small subset of monsters can join your party. VI has a specific class that can catch a small subset of monsters (though this was changed to just recruiting them in the DS remake). But either way Megami Tensei allowed you to get the vast majority of enemies in the game to become your ally either through negotiation or fusion. Fusion was there from the start which makes the lack of breeding in the first Pokemon rather strange (DQM also had breeding from the start). --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/31/22 8:38:35 AM #38: |
Zikten posted... The Slime from Dragon Quest is possibly more famous than Pikachu in Japan It's not (though as a big DQ fan, I kind of wish it was). It's definitely extremely well known to the point where the vast majority of people know of both here, but Pikachu shows up on random merchandise much more often. I sadly have yet to see a slime themed vending machine. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 01/31/22 8:41:35 AM #39: |
Most other monster catch games got ugly monsters like Yokai watch. Also, pokemon only one I think that got: 1. Reason to keep catching same monster 2. Competitive multiplayer battling ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sauceje 01/31/22 11:02:02 AM #40: |
Zikten posted... The Slime from Dragon Quest is possibly more famous than Pikachu in JapanEven if that were the case, Pikachu is immensely popular the world over, not just in Japan, whereas DQ is only really that big in Japan --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 01/31/22 11:05:11 AM #41: |
Doe posted... Is CE still seething about everyone like Legends Arceus?Pretty much --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Strangeone2007.png http://i.imgur.com/wfUGrp5.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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