Poll of the Day > After 30 Years, MORE Americans now Identify as REPUBLICAN rather than Democrat!.

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In more dire news for Democrats, support for the Democratic party has took a plunge in the latest gallup poll as more americans now identify as Republican rather than Democrat as Biden is facing mounting criticism over inflation and COVID response ahead of the November midterms where Congress AND Senate could be taken over by Republicans leaving his last 2 years of his first term presidency as a lame duck.

A new survey revealed that 47% of Americans now identify as Republican or Republican leaning which was a 9% increase from last year while only 42% identified as Democrat or Democratc leaning, a 7% decrease which indicates a dramatic flip in favour of the Republicans which has trailed behind the Democrat Party over the last decade and has not been ahead of them in identification since 1995.

It spells good news for Republicans who have blocked every important bill by Biden plus with the help of Manchin and Sinema where his build back better and voting rights bill did not go through.

Voters minds are on the worst inflation in 40 years with the costof living rising and do NOT support build back better which they say will make inflation worse.

COVID is also taking a toll with more relaxed restrictions by the administration and CDC where his covid response was once most favoured by americans

Social issues are likely to form a large part of campaigning especially with white voters who reject CRT, trans rights issues and school closures.

Gallup has regularly measured the party leaning since 1991 and in most years americans have aligned themselvse as Democrats or Independents but after Trump's election win and loss, americans are now leaning more conservative policies and have rejected progressive laws and blame "woke liberals" for rising crime.

Are you hoping for a Republican Senate and Congress?

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Not surprising.
How many of them identify as independent?

The libertarian right has pretty much collapsed into the mainstream Republican party, and the left has done what it does best and devolved into infighting and attacking each other for not being progressive enough, letting the idea of perfection be the enemy of good enough.

Of course there are now three right wing 24 hour propaganda stations and most local stations and local papers are owned by Sinclair Media or similar right wing owned media organizations, so no surprise that support for BBB has been neutralized.

Both parties are damn fools.

There are some people that insist I've been red pilled, and honestly fuck you if you're someone that has been spreading that lie about me. You know who you are and if you aren't sure if I'm talking about you, rest assured that I'm not.

My personal experience these last few months have shown me that many people on the right have more empathy and are more open-minded than they are given credit for, and likewise there are many on the left side of the political aisle who are regressively bigoted and narrow-minded in their views.

Andrew Yang is the only one making any damn sense. Nothing works without MATH.

BouncyBouncy posted...

Andrew Yang is the only one making any damn sense.

I look forward to him dropping out of the election and endorsing the corporate-backed moderate DNC candidate in 2 years.

Zareth posted...

I look forward to him dropping out of the election and endorsing the corporate-backed moderate DNC candidate in 2 years.

I look forward to Katie Porter busting everyone's ass with her fucking dry erase board

On their way to the fucking guillotine

Used to be on the right until my views on things like healthcare (why the heck are we losing to NORTH KOREA in terms of public healthcare? It's not like it's a niche thing; the vast majority of nations have it in at least some form.), the economy (why the hell do we have to fight tooth and nail to get the 'honor' of being verbally abused and harassed by customers, work long hours just for bosses to get mad at us when we don't come in on a moments notice, and have them get mad at us when we try to take paid vacation days that they gave us? All so we can be fired on a whim? And ALL while there's bosses/managers/etc who 'can't find it in the budget' to give us raises/improved conditions/etc yet somehow give themselves sports cars for Christmas bonuses while all I got was a $20 gift card... that I had to win in a RAFFLE!), and environment (I get not wanting to torpedo us with a massive and instant switch from coal and oil to solar, but we should at least be doing our best to clean up, curb industries, and make steps towards improving the environment) just to name some.

Problem is the left's now ruled by this crazy ideology and mindset that's extremely narrow-minded, prejudiced, discriminatory, and is literally trying to bring back things like segregation (but 'reversed'). So yea. I'm on neither side really. My overriding issue is healthcare and I disagree with the right on plenty of issues but the left is just bonkers right now.

I can certainly see why people are running from the democrats. They failed to step up on many issues, couldn't manage to even condemn things like the CHAZ but then launch into witch-hunts that are either grossly over-exaggerated or flat out non-existent, enforce draconic mandates, are shredding the economy in a level paranoia over the virus that would make you think it was a damned zombie plague, and just everything else.

Will be interesting to see what happens. 2023 and 2024 are going to be extremely interesting to watch simply because of the fallout of the 2022 elections (regardless of what happens).

Welp this country is fucked

The 2 party system is corrupt and antiquated.

KodyKeir posted...

The libertarian right has pretty much collapsed into the mainstream Republican party, and the left has done what it does best and devolved into infighting and attacking each other for not being progressive enough, letting the idea of perfection be the enemy of good enough.

I honestly don't think the Dems are good enough.

They need to be, at the bare minimum, pro-democracy and antifascism. Yet they won't even commit to that.

They aren't pulling America up or even stopping it's descent, they're just branches America hits on the way down.

None of America's problems are going to be solved in the ballot booth.

Im never voting republican and I want the dem party to collapse so bad
we need a new party straight up

KodyKeir posted...

Of course there are now three right wing 24 hour propaganda stations and most local stations and local papers are owned by Sinclair Media or similar right wing owned media organizations, so no surprise that support for BBB has been neutralized.

Unbridled9 posted...

Problem is the left's now ruled by this crazy ideology and mindset that's extremely narrow-minded, prejudiced, discriminatory, and is literally trying to bring back things like segregation (but 'reversed').

Case in point. Roy Cohn would be so proud.

Blightzkrieg posted...

They need to be, at the bare minimum, pro-democracy and antifascism. Yet they won't even commit to that.

Because they saw the polling after the "basket of deplorables" and decided that it wasn't worth it to stand up for basic principals of decency.

BouncyBouncy posted...

My personal experience these last few months have shown me that many people on the right have more empathy and are more open-minded than they are given credit for,

For the most part they never were the problem, (aside from the fact they consistently vote against their own interests) they were just the useful idiots used to advance the agenda of the international unite the right movement.

The # of people identifying as something other than democrat or republican in that poll is unusually low.

Gaawa_chan posted...

The # of people identifying as something other than democrat or republican in that poll is unusually low.

Yea. I notice that too. I think politics has just become so polarizing now-a-days that, regardless of where you actually stand, you pick a party.

Unbridled9 posted...

Yea. I notice that too. I think politics has just become so polarizing now-a-days that, regardless of where you actually stand, you pick a party.

Eh it's weird because a lot of conservatives seem ashamed to call themselves republicans often. Just how long as Zeus trying to claim he was a left leaning centrist after all. I'd expect more people to be independent now than before.

I mean, in a two party system, you're going to see shifts back and forth. I'm not sure why this is somehow surprising. More importantly, that looks like SUPPORT rather than ID'ing as a party member, where they'd just be in the party.

Judgmenl posted...

Not surprising.
How many of them identify as independent?

I mean, if 89% support one of the two parties, what does that leave?

BouncyBouncy posted...

if you're someone that has been spreading that lie about me

Nobody even knows who you are? That's a brand-new alt.

BouncyBouncy posted...

Andrew Yang is the only one making any damn sense. Nothing works without MATH.

Oh lawdy... nobody can pretend to know match and support the fucking UBI candidate.

Zareth posted...

I look forward to him dropping out of the election and endorsing the corporate-backed moderate DNC candidate in 2 years.

Kek.

Unbridled9 posted...

(why the heck are we losing to NORTH KOREA in terms of public healthcare?

Unless you have some weird side-criteria, we're not.

Unbridled9 posted...

the economy (why the hell do we have to fight tooth and nail to get the 'honor' of being verbally abused and harassed by customers, work long hours just for bosses to get mad at us when we don't come in on a moments notice, and have them get mad at us when we try to take paid vacation days that they gave us? All so we can be fired on a whim? And ALL while there's bosses/managers/etc who 'can't find it in the budget' to give us raises/improved conditions/etc yet somehow give themselves sports cars for Christmas bonuses while all I got was a $20 gift card... that I had to win in a RAFFLE!),

...that's not what the economy is. In fact, I'm not even sure what your rant is.

Unbridled9 posted...

environment (I get not wanting to torpedo us with a massive and instant switch from coal and oil to solar, but we should at least be doing our best to clean up, curb industries, and make steps towards improving the environment) j

I mean, a lot of that is just straight-up propaganda, but whatever. A lot of environmental movements are largely bullshit. That said, there have been actual problems that were addressed because they were actual problems. There are other issues that are either less tangible or direct that are still issues, but so many of the token causes are nonsense and the underlying premise behind many environmental causes can be fundamentally flawed.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Eh it's weird because a lot of conservatives seem ashamed to call themselves republicans often. Just how long as Zeus trying to claim he was a left leaning centrist after all. I'd expect more people to be independent now than before.

No matter how many times BS0 tries to BS his crap, I'm a registered DEMOCRAT. And while the Democrats have been an embarrassment (and sure, "both sides"), I've never hidden the fact I'm a registered Democrat. However, ideologically I've repeatedly tested as a left-leaning centrist with a slight libertarian streak.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Eh it's weird because a lot of conservatives seem ashamed to call themselves republicans often. Just how long as Zeus trying to claim he was a left leaning centrist after all. I'd expect more people to be independent now than before.

Well...

I think what's happening is that we're undergoing a radical party shift for all parties involved. The younger generation is coming up in what is, for all practical intents and purposes, a world that is completely alien to what existed in the 90's and even early 2000's. What I suspect is that we'll see the two major wings effectively split into four parties. You'll have the 'Alt-Right' who is basically all God, Gun, God with Gun, and so-forth as well as a 'Trump Right' which will be focused on economy, nationalism, and America-first policies. They'll likely be relatively harmonious but different in what they care about. Conversely, on the left, you'll get the 'Far left' who care almost exclusively about things like identity politics, social justice, and so-forth as well as the 'Ex-Dem' who will express values relatively similar to the traditional democrat values but now find themselves effectively outcast from their own party and potentially having more in common with the right.

That's a basic, very quick, dirty, and unrefined, version of what I think is happening. The 'traditional' party alignments are, effectively, obsolete and exist more as concepts than actual positions. This means people who identified according to those alignments suddenly don't have a home. It's like functioning on the good/evil law/chaos axis your entire life then getting thrown into a vampire game where the axis is human/monster sane/insane.

...that's not what the economy is. In fact, I'm not even sure what your rant is.

It's about bosses and companies acting extremely abusive to their subordinates resulting in miserable working conditions and the culture/government that allowed it to rise in the first place, refuses to do anything about it, and even seems keen on perpetuating it at times. We need both stronger workers rights and to slap down the elites who host massive birthday parties while also enacting policies that almost caused my friend to have to cancel his wedding due to 'too many people'. Or who, say, complain about how rough the lockdown is while in massive manors. Or think that they have the right to tell the rest of the world how to live just because they're a famous actor.

Whelp....
Dems supposedly need to be ahead in the national popular vote by something like 5% just to be even w/ Republicans due to gerrymandering and Dems' own tendencies to consolidate into compact metro areas. So if they're outright losing, that spells doom, a total bloodbath this year...

O_O

BouncyBouncy posted...

Both parties are damn fools.

No. That's just the same old bs "both parties are the same" apathy.
Republicans are evil.
Democrats are spineless and inept.

Neither is good, but one is still clearly less bad.
Aside from both parties supporting the wealthy and corporations (Republicans more strongly and brazenly; Democrats to a lesser extent but also straight up lie about their platform vs. what they actually do), they're quite different.

I hate choosing the lesser evil too (I stay unaffiliated mostly just to express a middle finger to the system), but keeping Republicans out of power is the only way to protect the environment, prevent welfare programs from being cut, avoid having religious laws shoved down my throat, etc...

There are some people that insist I've been red pilled, and honestly fuck you if you're someone that has been spreading that lie about me. You know who you are and if you aren't sure if I'm talking about you, rest assured that I'm not.

I have no idea who the hell would ever think or say that about you. You're like...about as far from being red pilled as humanly possible...

My personal experience these last few months have shown me that many people on the right have more empathy and are more open-minded than they are given credit for, and likewise there are many on the left side of the political aisle who are regressively bigoted and narrow-minded in their views.

Really? I'm not totally up to speed on your million blogfaq topics, but it seemed like plenty of leftist posters were nice to you and right-wing "not schmen" was by far the most caustic and nasty.
I do agree w/ the general premise that the bigotry of conservative voters and tolerance of liberal voters is exaggerated, though.

Andrew Yang is the only one making any damn sense. Nothing works without MATH.

Uh..huh...
Friendly reminder on the topic of Yang that the problem isn't the two party system, it's the First Past The Post voting that inevitably leads to that. Until we have nationwide ranked stack voting or the like, voting third party at best is a pointless expression of voter anger and at worst hands the election to someone ideologically the opposite of you.

BouncyBouncy posted...

I look forward to Katie Porter busting everyone's ass with her fucking dry erase board

She's definitely one of the good ones. Not sure what her chances are nationally, but I'd gladly vote for her to be president.

Things can only be worse if they do.

streamofthesky posted...

No. That's just the same old bs "both parties are the same" apathy.
Republicans are evil.
Democrats are spineless and inept.

Neither is good, but one is still clearly less bad.

No, they're both just different kinds of inept and evil. I don't view either side as being inherently more moral. More so, "morality" is generally used as a shortcut to avoid having to make rational justifications -- usually they're just appeals to emotion than even having any framework in actual morality. And both parties tend to be pretty flexible where their stated morality is concerned.

Beyond that, many of their "differences" are largely imagined or ascribed.

streamofthesky posted...

Neither is good, but one is still clearly less bad.

Both sides claim morality from a different standpoint. The "less bad one" depends on a person's so-called "morality"

streamofthesky posted...

Aside from both parties supporting the wealthy and corporations (Republicans more strongly and brazenly; Democrats to a lesser extent but also straight up lie about their platform vs. what they actually do), they're quite different.

I hate choosing the lesser evil too (I stay unaffiliated mostly just to express a middle finger to the system), but keeping Republicans out of power is the only way to protect the environment, prevent welfare programs from being cut, avoid having religious laws shoved down my throat, etc...

...except for the fact Democrats themselves would be making cuts to those welfare programs if Republicans aren't around. Likewise if it was just Republicans, they'd be expanding welfare programs at times -- for instance, we saw GWB expand entitlements.

As for "religious laws shoved down your throat," keep in mind Clinton signed DOMA, which is one of the things to come to mind when I think "religious law."

And Democrats tend to also have a spotty record where the environment is concerned, with many of the programs they champion mostly being token or for show. Likewise, a lot of environmental protections have been pioneered by Republicans. The idea that "Well, one party stands for this, so the other party is against it!" is often a false dichotomy. And most of the politicians wildly in favor of something radical are outliers.

All I can is Thanks Joe! You are going to unite the country AGAINST YOU.

Welp, you can only **** up for so long (in this case, it only took a year) before something needs to be done and the Republican party is the only option

Nothing got done with all the in house Dem fighting and nothing (thankfully) will get done with the House and/or Senate flipping over, but things will hopefully change for the better again come 2024

Why are people acting like it's just dems who are fighting? Did everyone forget the year of attempting to overturn obamacare just for every plan to get rejected by the freedom caucus lunatics like Rand Paul going "No I can't support this, the bill doesn't kill enough poor Americans!"