Current Events > NY will have a mandate that will ban unvaccinated workers

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runewalshPSiv posted...

The funny thing about all of this is that the only people I know that have had covid have all been vaccinated. I dont know a single person that didnt get vaccinated that has had covid.

Now how many people do you know who are unvaccinated (a minority of the population), would actually get tested (a minority of the unvaccinated), and would tell the truth about that result (a very small, if existant at all, minority of the unvaccinated who'd get tested)?

Zero? Thought so.

Kylo_Ren_ posted...

Well.....it isn't. Either you take it or become homeless. That's what they're trying to accomplish.

I agree with you on that. But your conspiracy nonsense doesn't help the argument.

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Which is is basically proof that the vaccines and boosters are working.

The virus will continue to mutate, getting weaker and weaker each time, to the point where (hopefully) the vaccines will cause the virus to be nearly undetectable should it try to enter your body.

let's fix nursing/doctor shortages by firing more of them

sounds on par for NY decision makers

If you're not vaccinated, it's on you at this point

also, lol at anti vaxxers all of a sudden caring about the black and brown folks who haven't gotten the jab. Yall cheered on politicians threatening to shoot us while we protested around the country last year

hsvhighlife posted...

let's fix nursing/doctor shortages by firing more of them

sounds on par for NY decision makers

A nurse who refuses to get vaccinated is not qualified to be a nurse

Will_VIIII posted...

A nurse who refuses to get vaccinated is not qualified to be a nurse

lets fire all HCW who don't get the flu shot

whoops no more doctors or nurses

hsvhighlife posted...

lets fire all HCW who don't get the flu shot

whoops no more doctors or nurses

I worked at a nursing home; you had to get a flu shot or wear a mask all winter, pre-pandemic.

BlackMcCoy posted...

If you're not vaccinated, it's on you at this point

also, lol at anti vaxxers all of a sudden caring about the black and brown folks who haven't gotten the jab. Yall cheered on politicians threatening to shoot us while we protested around the country last year

It's not about that, it's about pointing out the hypocrisy in how people react to minorities not getting vaccinated (which by the way, they are far less vaccinated by % than white people) vs how people react to white (and for the most part conservative) people not getting vaccinated.

white/conservative person against the vaccine: "stupid trumpers are ruining this country by not getting the vax"

minority against the vaccine (and generally not a conservative): "well you see, this is different and we can't really say anything because it's understandable, tuskegee experiment and all that ya know, don't be a dick guys"

Nothing like watching CE tie itself into a mental knot trying to figure out the most woke way to respond to conflicting issues.

BlackMcCoy posted...

If you're not vaccinated, it's on you at this point

also, lol at anti vaxxers all of a sudden caring about the black and brown folks who haven't gotten the jab. Yall cheered on politicians threatening to shoot us while we protested around the country last year

From a non antivaxxer:
Covid has killed 800k people.

Assuming an even vaccination rate across races and a percent of population of .15 for black Americans, both of which are generous, covid has likely killed about 120k black people, which is a low estimate.

About 200 black people are killed a year from cops.

Assuming literally every death was unjustified, black covid deaths are roughly equal to 600 years of police brutality.

You have no excuse. "Vaccine hesitancy" is antivax.

Antifar posted...

I worked at a nursing home; you had to get a flu shot or wear a mask all winter, pre-pandemic.

Exactly. No flu shot requirement at the pharmacy, but we'd always get an influx every year of nurses who were required by their hospital or office.

People are showing just how ignorant they were of vaccines pre-COVID.

hsvhighlife posted...

lets fire all HCW who don't get the flu shot

whoops no more doctors or nurses

I'm fine with that. Whenever I need to see a doctor and/or nurse they come in close proximity for an extended period of time.

YigaBlademaster posted...

It's not about that, it's about pointing out the hypocrisy in how people react to minorities not getting vaccinated (which by the way, they are far less vaccinated by % than white people) vs how people react to white (and for the most part conservative) people not getting vaccinated.

white/conservative person against the vaccine: "stupid trumpers are ruining this country by not getting the vax"

minority against the vaccine (and generally not a conservative): "well you see, this is different and we can't really say anything because it's understandable, tuskegee experiment and all that ya know, don't be a dick guys"

Nothing like watching CE tie itself into a mental knot trying to figure out the most woke way to respond to conflicting issues.

That's false information as well

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

MAGAs are overwhelmingly unvaccinated compared to any other group

Zeeak4444 posted...

and whats that a whopping 20 people total?

Yall really need to get outside your bubble once in a while.

More than 20. Its just my personal experience. I never said it was a fact or anything.

Will_VIIII posted...

That's false information as well

It's caution. Literally everything he posts is false information.

Will_VIIII posted...

That's false information as well

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

MAGAs are overwhelmingly unvaccinated compared to any other group

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic

You sure about my claim being fake news?

shockthemonkey posted...

Why is Caution melting down about minorities this time

There are no depths caution won't stoop to. Decency and humanity are things he wants to stay far away from.

Oh god it's caution why am I wasting time

Will_VIIII posted...

Oh god it's caution why am I wasting time

He still owes me a massive apology for posting disgusting slanderous fake shit about me and summoning a bunch of troll accounts from his discord group to attempt to make it look like real people believed his blatant garbage.

And then recall them when they need them lmao

Will_VIIII posted...

Oh god it's caution why am I wasting time

In other words, you saw my post, saw that it backs up my initial claim, and no biased media source you're likely to come up with is going to be as credible as the CDC.

Fact is, this isn't about race or any other disingenuous claim you're making up to sidestep my argument. No, fact is, you can't put SOME people on blast for not being vaccinated and not others.

Fact is, EVERYONE needs to be vaccinated and you have to put pressure on EVERYONE to do so. You can't just laser in on one specific group because they're easier to go after.

Machete posted...

He still owes me a massive apology for posting disgusting slanderous fake shit about me and summoning a bunch of troll accounts from his discord group to attempt to make it look like real people believed his blatant garbage.

I got my info about you from people at gwwaks and from one of your old suspended topics. I know you're saying what you're saying in order to try and convince people that your "interests" are made up bullshit, but people can feel free to look up the info themselves on that site that keeps logs of this board. They'll easily find out that many of the people making those claims aren't people who are at Caution's.

Listen, I don't know why you feel the need to keep bringing that stuff up, nobody here cares about that stuff, just your politics. You keep bringing it up like this and you're gonna invoke the Streisand effect. My advice to you would be to just not talk about it, especially if nobody else is bringing it up.

Based

YigaBlademaster posted...

I got my info about you from people at gwwaks and from one of your old suspended topics. I know you're saying what you're saying in order to try and convince people that your "interests" are made up bullshit, but people can feel free to look up the info themselves on that site that keeps logs of this board. They'll easily find out that many of the people making those claims aren't people who are at Caution's.

Listen, I don't know why you feel the need to keep bringing that stuff up, nobody here cares about that stuff, just your politics. You keep bringing it up like this and you're gonna invoke the Streisand effect. My advice to you would be to just not talk about it, especially if nobody else is bringing it up.

If you looked it up, you would see that what I claim I said is exactly what I said, not any of the bullshit you tacked on. So either you didn't bothered or you knowingly lied. It's that simple. Given your use of the word "interests," it is quite clearly the latter. If you gave a flying fuck about truth, you would have actually looked it up on the sites that keep the logs. You don't, because you are the type of person I said you are.

YigaBlademaster posted...

In other words, you saw my post, saw that it backs up my initial claim, and no biased media source you're likely to come up with is going to be as credible as the CDC.

Fact is, this isn't about race or any other disingenuous claim you're making up to sidestep my argument. No, fact is, you can't put SOME people on blast for not being vaccinated and not others.

Fact is, EVERYONE needs to be vaccinated and you have to put pressure on EVERYONE to do so. You can't just laser in on one specific group because they're easier to go after.

Nope. First paragraph already clarifies that it's data that's only provided. MAGA counties are not providing this data.

Plus, you have a reputation where no one needs to respond to you seriously,.or even be respectful. That's your fault.

Machete posted...

If you looked it up, you would see that what I claim I said is exactly what I said, not any of the bullshit you tacked on. So either you didn't bothered or you knowingly lied. It's that simple. Given your use of the word "interests," it is quite clearly the latter. If you gave a flying fuck about truth, you would have actually looked it up on the sites that keep the logs. You don't, because you are the type of person I said you are.

The claims made about you were pretty clear, and again, you should stop bringing them up because nobody else is.

Will_VIIII posted...

Nope. First paragraph already clarifies that it's data that's only provided. MAGA counties are not providing this data.

Plus, you have a reputation where no one needs to respond to you seriously,.or even be respectful. That's your fault.

My reputation? You literally don't even know who I am.

YigaBlademaster posted...

The claims made about you were pretty clear, and again, you should stop bringing them up because nobody else is.

My version of events is clear and the archive site can confirm that. Your false and slanderous version was formed around inhuman malice and it exposes you for who you are. I have no reason to ever let you forget that.

Good.

Get fucked anti-vaxxers.

YigaBlademaster posted...

The claims made about you were pretty clear, and again, you should stop bringing them up because nobody else is.

My reputation? You literally don't even know who I am.

Caution, a MAGA who continually gets banned for bigotry and misinformation.

We know who you are and know we'll never get a reasonable or intelligent discussion with you either so there's no point to engage with you or be respectful.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Freedom has different connotations for different people. Part of being free is deciding what freedom means to you. That means you don't get to decide what somebody else needs or wants. That's not your right.

I'm a strong believer in bodily autonomy. People aren't consenting to being infected, or to being refused medical care because the hospital they went to is full. Why don't you weep for that loss of freedom? I don't respect anyone's freedom when it comes at another's expense. We have laws in society. We don't just let everyone decide what they want to do, damn the consequences or collateral damage.

"It's their freedom to take away your freedom" is not a logical argument.

You know how some right-wingers will say the government's one duty is defense or protection? I sort of share the sentiment. A wide-scale crisis like this is one of the things government should be for. They have a moral obligation to protect the populace. Healthcare is the most important thing in the world. No one can do jack shit if we're all sick or dead. If the government can't even do that, then fuck 'em. Dismantle the establishment.

hockeybub89 posted...

I'm a strong believer in bodily autonomy. People aren't consenting to being infected, or to being refused medical care because the hospital they went to is full. Why don't you weep for that loss of freedom? I don't respect anyone's freedom when it comes at another's expense. We have laws in society. We don't just let everyone decide what they want to do, damn the consequences or collateral damage.

"It's their freedom to take away your freedom" is not a logical argument.

Basically the drunk driver argument

hockeybub89 posted...

"It's their freedom to take away your freedom" is not a logical argument.

Agreed. Force a jab and you'll get a jab to the nose

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Agreed. Force a jab and you'll get a jab to the nose

lol what a selfish, hateful baby

hockeybub89 posted...

"It's their freedom to take away your freedom" is not a logical argument.

It's certainly Walmart's (or McDonalds, or [some guy]'s Pizzeria's, or your next door neighbor's house) freedom to do so.
"Vaxxed Only" is functionally no different from "Gun Free Zone"

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Agreed. Force a jab and you'll get a jab to the nose

So if you infect someone with covid then they should also feel free to drop kick you. Got it.

How mad are these freedom lovers at the police for forcing them to not kick random asses without being jailed?

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Agreed. Force a jab and you'll get a jab to the nose

I'd say good luck with losing your job but I'm guessing you're not capable of holding one

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Agreed. Force a jab and you'll get a jab to the nose

that's not very NAPpy...

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It's not but there's certainly still a number of em

Will_VIIII posted...

I'd say good luck with losing your job but I'm guessing you're not capable of holding one

I'm vaccinated but if you jab me agaisnt my will, I will beat you cartoonishly

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This mandate will probably be spun as anti-semitic fairly quickly. Even quicker if there's active enforcement anywhere inside any orthodox neighborhood.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/20/nycs-orthodox-neighborhoods-lagging-in-covid-vaccines/