Current Events > Taliban opens fire on women protesting restrictions

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I feel ya, but there are a lot of Americans who prefer the US to not intervene anywhere and also hate the US anyway.

So its like just try to think about something else and not be upset about whats happening there.

Womens rights only matter in the "western" countries for some reason.

I say we in a broad way, not specifically America. By we, I mean the rest of the civilized world that doesnt restrict women the way these people do.

A few more instances like this and Afghanistan will be on track to becoming more like the USA

A few more instances like this and Afghanistan will be on track to becoming more like the USA

If the US had focused solely on Afghanistan, we could have overtaken them. The War on Terror was unpopular because it was a preemptive war against Iraq and a personal vendetta of George W. Bush. If all we did was go after the nation that attacked us, we would have seen far more in the way of enlistment because it would have been a noble cause. It might still have taken a decade or two to conquer a country the size of Texas, but it could have been done.

Say what you will about American imperialism, Afghanistan would be better off as a place where women can drive, achieve higher education, and walk about with their faces uncovered. There are some Republicans who are as bad as the Taliban, yes. But you're lying to yourself if you say America is worse.

What nation attacked us tho

What nation attacked us tho

What nation attacked us tho

I say we in a broad way, not specifically America. By we, I mean the rest of the civilized world that doesnt restrict women the way these people do.

I can't think of any other place where women need a male guardian to travel a certain distance from home.

and I've read the Qur'an maybe a couple times now. I don't remember seeing any provision in that book to justify what is going on here. even the full body coverings are subject to interpretation. (heck many Kurd women don't do it)

I can't think of any other place where women need a male guardian to travel a certain distance from home.

and I've read the Qur'an maybe a couple times now. I don't remember seeing any provision in that book to justify what is going on here. even the full body coverings are subject to interpretation. (heck many Kurd women don't do it)

surprisingly, going into a country and bombing the ever loving shit out of it for two decades doesn't really fix anything...

Except the US

The Quran is only a small piece of the picture. Most of the bad stuff you see done in the name of Islam is based on a hadith. They are quotes and scriptures that occurred after the death of Muhammad that have been declared canonical by various sects within the religion. Sort of like how Christians consider the New testament stories canonical even though they were written long after Jesus died. A significant cause of conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims is based on which Hadith they consider real or fake.

Similarly, a fatwa is a legal ruling made by an Islamic scholar that is considered by some sects and official application of Islamic law to a modern situation in the way that the US Supreme Court interprets law around cases.

Additionally, since Islam is the only one out of the three abrahamic religions to explicitly have guidance on jurisprudence, you see a larger concentration of theocratic nations applying 1400-year-old rules as law. Judaism and Christianity have guidelines that they want individuals to follow, but the Quran specifically has laws and prescribed punishments that leave little room for interpretation.

If you only ever read the quran, that would be sort of like looking at modern-day Catholicism and assuming that it's based purely on just the New testament and not hundreds of years of religious councils and Pope edicts.

What rights do women not have in the USA?

Abortion
Equal pay
Getting their tubes tied

God damn. Its disgusting that were allowing this to happen.

https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/taliban-opens-fire-women-protesters/31629544.html

We need to leave Afghanistan alone because we tried for 20 years and failed.

We didn't fail until we left. The country had 20 years of freedom. We should have just stayed. It didn't cost that much money compared to our total budget

We didn't fail until we left. The country had 20 years of freedom. We should have just stayed. It didn't cost that much money compared to our total budget

And the American lives you're putting at risk now and in the future for doing so? To protect a country they, and the people themsevles couldn't give two shits about?

Guess that's easy not to think about when you won't be joining them.

We need to stop trying to tell other countries how to act and focus on solving problems at home first.

Agreed. The time has come to stuff the Republicans and capitalists into prison.

Democrats want a free Afghanistan

Democrats want a free Afghanistan

More American citizens died in car accidents than in Afghanistan conflicts, the past 20 years

Wrong. Women can still get abortions in most states.

Wrong. Equal pay act of 1963 makes it illegal for employers to pay women less for the same work.

Somewhat wrong. You can get your tubes tied after a certain age in most states although it can be hard to find a doctor to do it.

The US already had its turn. Let someone else try to assist them.

All the wrongs you posted you followed up with something proving I'm right.

Somewhat wrong. You can get your tubes tied after a certain age in most states although it can be hard to find a doctor to do it.