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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 3:50:06 PM #1: |
https://www.today.com/parents/parents/child-wanted-share-nonbinary-identity-holiday-card-rcna9411 I took a deep breath and clicked, making my post live. I was scared of what conservative family members on Facebook would think. I feared people would judge my parenting choices on Instagram. The online world is far more terrifying than my liberal Los Angeles neighborhood where Clark is one of several nonbinary children. Our familys transition started with the most mundane dilemma a pile of dirty laundry. It was a summer morning. We forgot to wash the kids clothes and it was time to go to preschool. Clark threw a fit that there were only skirts in their dresser while their twin, Chloe, was fully dressed. My husband and I cajoled Clark (then Claire) to just get dressed. After crying, Clark finally said, I dont feel like me in skirts. It was the moment I realized that how we reacted would forever be cemented in my childs mind. I dug a pair of shorts out of the laundry hamper, did a sniff test, and handed them over. Clarks tears dried. Their smile appeared. I knelt down to my sweet child. Do you want me to get rid of your skirts and dresses? They nodded. At bedtime, I introduced a childrens book I bought. When we read "It Feels Good to Be Yourself: A Book About Gender Identity" by Theresa Thorn, Clark pointed to the page with the nonbinary description and said, Thats how I feel. I dont feel like a boy or a girl. I borrowed "Born Ready: The True Story of a Boy Named Penelope" by Jodie Patterson from our local library. As I read it, Clark inched closer to the pictures of short-haired, tie-wearing Penelope. A bright smile took over their face. I feel the same way too! Clark exclaimed. ... After two months in kindergarten, Clark said the lunch lady had thought their name was Clark not Claire. Clark asked if they could change their name. We said, Sure. Lets try it at home and see how you feel. If you want to change it permanently, you can. Of course, it took Brendan and I several weeks to get the name change right. Chloe was the first to correct us if we got Clarks name or pronouns wrong. Then, one day, Clark said they wanted to tell their teacher and class. Brendan and I had already communicated with their teacher about the name change. She was super supportive. The school principal emailed me a form to change Clarks name in the school records. My brave kid stood up in front of their kindergarten classroom and told their friends that they were now Clark. They asked to use the gender-neutral bathroom at school. When we arrived at their after school program to tell the staff, one teacher said, Clark already told us. I was amazed to see that my kids name tags on the table and cubbies were already changed. The parents seemed so thrilled to have a trans child. They read them a book about non binary people the very same day the child didn't want to wear a skirt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DontHaveACowMan 12/21/21 3:52:30 PM #2: |
This happened. --- My username is a funny quote of Brat Simpsons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 12/21/21 3:53:37 PM #3: |
*makes popcorn* --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 12/21/21 3:53:49 PM #4: |
sounds like he just wants to be like his sister who he loves very much --- #BladeGang ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 12/21/21 3:55:17 PM #5: |
Then everyone stood and clapped ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 12/21/21 3:58:15 PM #7: |
Naysaspace posted... sounds like he just wants to be like his sister who he loves very muchYou got it backwards. Claire became Clark. --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 12/21/21 3:58:58 PM #8: |
DipDipDiver posted... Then everyperson stood and clapped --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/21/21 3:59:19 PM #9: |
Naysaspace posted... sounds like he just wants to be like his sister who he loves very muchSounds like you didn't read all that closely. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 12/21/21 3:59:36 PM #10: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... I took a deep breath and clicked, making my post live. DowntownMrSmith posted... I was scared DowntownMrSmith posted... I feared DowntownMrSmith posted... The online world is far more terrifying Holy pathetic melodrama, Batman. I hope this is as fake as it sounds, because that kid is fucked if his parents are actually as big of attentions whores as they seem. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 12/21/21 4:00:49 PM #11: |
And that man was Albert Einstein --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eliza-Schuyler 12/21/21 4:00:52 PM #12: |
damn everyones really using the wrong pronouns for this kid dude --- your favorite rat boy he/they (Cayo Costa DA-0803-8117-3931) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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J03can 12/21/21 4:01:47 PM #13: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted... And that man was Albert Einstein --- Jerry, it's Frank Costanza!!! Mr Steinbrenner's here George is dead - call me back!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:04:11 PM #14: |
omega cookie posted... Holy pathetic melodrama, Batman. I hope this is as fake as it sounds, because that kid is fucked if his parents are actually as big of attentions whores as they seem. It's not fake, their father has a wikipedia page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Hay ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 12/21/21 4:07:15 PM #15: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... It's not fake, their father has a wikipedia page.Welp, any chance that kid had of growing up normal is fucked. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/21/21 4:07:23 PM #16: |
So TC's problem is that they're... celebrating their child's self-identity? Would you prefer them to be... what... "distraught"? "Confused"? Or just "quiet"? --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wiiking96 12/21/21 4:16:56 PM #17: |
All children should be given choices for how to express themselves and determine how they want to identify. No child should be forced to dress or act in a way that makes them uncomfortable. --- We should strive to create a world of love and compassion. It may take a lot of time and effort, but it can be done. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:21:00 PM #19: |
Somebody post the bait meme. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TeaMilk 12/21/21 4:22:01 PM #20: |
Cool. I'm glad everyone in Clark's life is supportive, this is how it should be --- http://large.horse/ Show icons on posts: https://openuserjs.org/scripts/melon/GameFAQs_Show_Icon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:22:06 PM #21: |
CyricZ posted... So TC's problem is that they're... celebrating their child's self-identity? Really, you dont see anything strange about how the parents rushed to judgment on such a life changing decision for their child? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 12/21/21 4:22:34 PM #22: |
Wolfesth6090 posted... Somebody post the bait meme. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greyfox747 12/21/21 4:23:23 PM #23: |
What exactly is the problem here --- Officially Certified Gamer Girl in 23 states ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:25:38 PM #24: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... Really, you dont see anything strange about how the parents rushed to judgment on such a life changing decision for their child? Did you really just play your hand 20 posts in? Come on man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wiiking96 12/21/21 4:26:12 PM #25: |
TC, are you a transphobe? --- We should strive to create a world of love and compassion. It may take a lot of time and effort, but it can be done. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VipaGTS 12/21/21 4:30:12 PM #26: |
So, the parents are just allowing the child to act and dress the way they feel most comfortable? And TC is whining about that for some reason? Some of yall need to stop worrying about how other people choose to live. It must be fuckin exhausting for you. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragooncancer_ 12/21/21 4:32:34 PM #27: |
VipaGTS posted... So, the parents are just allowing the child to act and dress the way they feel most comfortable? And TC is whining about that for some reason? Some of yall need to stop worrying about how other people choose to live. It must be fuckin exhausting for you.So if this 5 year old was like, I'm a dog! And the parents started walking them with a leash and having them sleep outside that's cool too, right? --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:34:25 PM #28: |
Dragooncancer_ posted... So if this 5 year old was like, I'm a dog! And the parents started walking them with a leash and having them sleep outside that's cool too, right? Different species and different genders are two different things guy. Going to be some real hot takes in this thread. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 12/21/21 4:35:38 PM #29: |
Dragooncancer_ posted... So if this 5 year old was like, I'm a dog! And the parents started walking them with a leash and having them sleep outside that's cool too, right?You had all the time in the world to think of, and then type, your amazing point that would change everybody's mind, and that was the best you could do? You poor soul. --- FFRK: BRKB - Eiko - Guardian Mog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:36:03 PM #30: |
VipaGTS posted... So, the parents are just allowing the child to act and dress the way they feel most comfortable? And TC is whining about that for some reason? Some of yall need to stop worrying about how other people choose to live. It must be fuckin exhausting for you. The parents did a lot more than that, they told the child he is now permanently a boy, and announced the same to the world. When I was a kid I wanted to dress up as a girl for Halloween. I thought it would be an interesting costume. I didnt want to become a girl. Thank goodness I had sane parents who didnt try to convince me I was actually a girl. Who knows what would happen today? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragooncancer_ 12/21/21 4:36:05 PM #31: |
Yeah, no shit. They are FIVE. The real hot take are the parents parading this kid to show how woke they are. --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 12/21/21 4:36:37 PM #32: |
Dragooncancer_ posted... So if this 5 year old was like, I'm a dog! And the parents started walking them with a leash and having them sleep outside that's cool too, right?Crazy how trans slippery slope arguments are identical to gay marriage slippery slope arguments. --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 12/21/21 4:36:55 PM #33: |
CE and trans topics, name a worse combination. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarveI 12/21/21 4:37:41 PM #34: |
Did the kid actually get gender reassignment surgery or is it just how he dresses? Cuz I am most definitely not okay with surgery on a five year old because the child said he wants to be a girl. --- Make mine Marvel! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:37:49 PM #35: |
Wolfesth6090 posted... Different species and different genders are two different things guy. But for a small child playing make believe, they arent that different. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/21/21 4:37:59 PM #36: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... Really, you dont see anything strange about how the parents rushed to judgment on such a life changing decision for their child?Doesn't seem like the parents judged anything. Seems like the child told them who they were and the parents accepted it. Also prove there was a rush. The time frame of events is pretty ambiguous in the article. Why just assume it was a rush? --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:38:41 PM #37: |
Dragooncancer_ posted... Yeah, no shit. They are FIVE. The real hot take are the parents parading this kid to show how woke they are. None of that has anything to do with the fact that what you just wrote was a really dumb equivalence. But you go for it with the moral outrage. It'll only end one way here guy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:39:53 PM #38: |
Doe posted... Crazy how trans slippery slope arguments are identical to gay marriage slippery slope arguments. Gay marriage involves two adults though. Its the child part that makes people uncomfortable here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:39:56 PM #39: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... But for a small child playing make believe, they arent that different. Did that sound better in your head guy? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 12/21/21 4:42:43 PM #40: |
If you're gonna try and bait people into getting modded by posting anti trans bs, you're gonna want to wait more than 20 posts to go all in. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 12/21/21 4:42:43 PM #41: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... It's not fake, their father has a wikipedia page.Sweet, a new Gremlins series --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kelemvor 12/21/21 4:43:05 PM #42: |
MarveI posted... Did the kid actually get gender reassignment surgery or is it just how he dresses? Cuz I am most definitely not okay with surgery on a five year old because the child said he wants to be a girl. You need to get more woke then. Pretty sure that's illegal in this country. Gender reassignment surgery has to be harder than getting an abortion anyway. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 12/21/21 4:43:27 PM #43: |
gunplagirl posted... If you're gonna try and bait people into getting modded by posting anti trans bs, you're gonna want to wait more than 20 posts to go all in.tbf, that's a record waiting length for most transphobes on CE. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 12/21/21 4:43:38 PM #45: |
While I don't deny the idea that a child can begin questioning such things at that age, I do wonder if going over that kind of topic may make them think they are definitely one way or another, even if they aren't. Affirming choices like how they want to dress regardless of their gender identity is perfectly fine, but actually going into the specifics of those things might be too leading. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 12/21/21 4:44:11 PM #46: |
Returning_CEmen posted... Sweet, a new Gremlins seriesI would have liked to see Star Wars Detours. Just out of sheer morbid curiosity. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 12/21/21 4:45:35 PM #47: |
Funkydog posted... tbf, that's a record waiting length for most transphobes on CE.True usually you'd have a warning worthy post in the first 5 --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarveI 12/21/21 4:46:55 PM #48: |
kelemvor posted... You need to get more woke then.As long as nobodys putting a child on an operating table based on something a child may have said on a whim, then its whatever. Im not here to tell people how to dress. --- Make mine Marvel! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DowntownMrSmith 12/21/21 4:51:10 PM #49: |
MarveI posted... As long as nobodys putting a child on an operating table based on something a child may have said on a whim, then its whatever. The mom is already contemplating putting the child on hormone blockers, which could render then permanently unable to have children. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarveI 12/21/21 4:54:07 PM #50: |
DowntownMrSmith posted... The mom is already contemplating putting the child on hormone blockers, which could render then permanently unable to have children.To me thats child abuse. And I dont agree with it. --- Make mine Marvel! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wolfesth6090 12/21/21 4:55:05 PM #51: |
MarveI posted... To me thats child abuse. And I dont agree with it. Should the child be removed from the parents in your opinion then? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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