Board 8 > Rate the VG Story Day 189: Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

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Lightning Strikes
12/20/21 8:06:19 PM
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Courage is the magic that makes dreams into reality, and this topic is the magic by which we will rate Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World. How would you rate the stories on a scale from 1-10?

You can still rate previous days games if you missed them, just write <game name><rating>. If you want to change your rating you can just specify that you are changing your rating. Nominations for future days are also welcome, nominate as many games as you like and I will get to all of them.

Previous Results:
Planescape: Torment - 9.83 (12 votes)
Higurashi When They Cry - 9.69 (8 votes)
Omori - 9.67 (6 votes)
Outer Wilds - 9.61 (22 votes)
Silent Hill 2 - 9.5 (20 votes)
Deus Ex - 9.35 (11 votes)
Nier Automata - 9.25 (31 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations - 9.2 (34 votes)
428: Shibuya Scramble - 9.18 (8 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC - 9.15 (19 votes)
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - 9.1 (14 votes)
The House in Fata Morgana - 9.06 (11 votes)
Yakuza 0 - 9.03 (13 votes)
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9 (8 votes)
Mother 3 - 8.98 (14 votes)
Steins;Gate - 8.94 (9 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - 8.91 (30 votes)
Umineko When They Cry - 8.88 (13 votes)
Grim Fandango - 8.88 (13 votes)
Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward - 8.88 (20 votes)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 8.85 (10 votes)
Silent Hill 4: The Room - 8.83 (6 votes)
Suikoden II - 8.8 (11 votes)
Persona 3 - 8.76 (22 votes)
Xenogears - 8.73 (24 votes)
Tales of Berseria - 8.69 (14 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.67 (31 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics - 8.67 (27 votes)
Metal Gear Solid - 8.67 (27 votes)
Dragon Quest V - 8.64 (14 votes)
Pyre - 8.64 (7 votes)
Portal 2 - 8.64 (19 votes)
Bastion - 8.63 (12 votes)
Persona 4 - 8.59 (31 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask - 8.56 (27 votes)
Disco Elysium - 8.56 (16 votes)
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 8.53 (18 votes)
Undertale - 8.45 (42 votes)
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door - 8.45 (16 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - 8.42 (12 votes)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 8.41 (19 votes)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 8.4 (5 votes)
Chrono Trigger - 8.39 (40 votes)
Mass Effect 2 - 8.38 (28 votes)
South Park: The Stick of Truth - 8.38 (17 votes)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 8.37 (15 votes)
Snatcher - 8.33 (6 votes)
Final Fantasy X - 8.31 (56 votes)
Final Fantasy VII - 8.28 (37 votes)
Dragon Quest XI - 8.27 (16 votes)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective 8.21 (19 votes)
Final Fantasy VI - 8.19 (43 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - 8.17 (42 votes)
The Walking Dead Season 1 - 8.17 (21 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies - 8.16 (16 votes)
Wolfenstein: The New Order - 8.14 (7 votes)
The Last of Us - 8.13 (35 votes)
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - 8.11 (9 votes)
Horizon: Zero Dawn - 8.06 (18 votes)
Silent Hill - 8.04 (14 votes)
The Wolf Among Us - 8.04 (14 votes)
Portal - 8 (26 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles - 7.94 (27 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - 7.94 (17 votes)
Hades - 7.91 (21 votes)
Spec Ops: The Line - 7.9 (17 votes)
Bloodborne - 7.88 (20 votes)
Kid Icarus: Uprising - 7.86 (13 votes)
Life is Strange - 7.85 (31 votes)
Deadly Premonition - 7.77 (11 votes)
Final Fantasy IX - 7.77 (26 votes)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future - 7.75 (6 votes)
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - 7.75 (4 votes)
The Sexy Brutale - 7.7 (5 votes)
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - 7.69 (31 votes)
Bioshock - 7.64 (23 votes)
Doki Doki Literature Club - 7.64 (27 votes)
Celeste - 7.56 (26 votes)
Half-Life 2 - 7.55 (10 votes)
Skies of Arcadia - 7.54 (14 votes)
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair - 7.5 (30 votes)
The Last Story - 7.47 (6 votes)
Mortal Kombat (2011) - 7.46 (13 votes)
Tales of Symphonia - 7.42 (30 votes)
Mass Effect - 7.35 (28 votes)
Earthbound - 7.33 (19 votes)
Psychonauts - 7.58 (6 votes)
Batman: Arkham Asylum - 7.3 (22 votes)
Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma - 7.27 (20 votes)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - 7.26 (29 votes)
Tales of the Abyss - 7.25 (29 votes)
Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - 7.25 (12 votes)
Red Dead Redemption - 7.23 (11 votes)
Resident Evil 4 - 7.19 (25 votes)
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony - 7.17 (25 votes)
Mass Effect 3 - 7.16 (21 votes)
Paper Mario - 7.12 (12 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 7.11 (23 votes)
The Stanley Parable - 7.11 (14 votes)
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 7.1 (30 votes)
Broken Age - 7.1 (5 votes)
The Last of Us Part II - 7.09 (16 votes)
To the Moon - 7.07 (7 votes)
Warcraft III (overall) - 7.06 (8 votes)
Super Paper Mario - 7.04 (23 votes)
Assassins Creed II - 7.04 (13 votes)
Final Fantasy VIII - 7.01 (31 votes)
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter - 7 (5 votes)

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swordz9
12/20/21 8:07:36 PM
#2:


Can I give it a 0? Its extremely offensively terrible
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Lightning Strikes
12/20/21 8:14:55 PM
#3:


Hollow Knight - 6.98 (21 votes)
Gone Home - 6.91 (17 votes)
INSIDE - 6.88 (16 votes)
Bioshock Infinite - 6.87 (19 votes)
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood - 6.83 (6 votes)
The World Ends With You - 6.79 (24 votes)
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne - 6.79 (7 votes)
Death Stranding - 6.73 (13 votes)
Halo: Combat Evolved - 6.7 (10 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice For All - 6.69 (33 votes)
Firewatch - 6.65 (10 votes)
Dark Souls - 6.62 (20 votes)
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 6.61 (29 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 6.6 (25 votes)
Chrono Cross - 6.53 (18 votes)
Valkyria Chronicles - 6.5 (16 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 6.5 (13 votes)
Resident Evil Village - 6.5 (7 votes)
Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag - 6.5 (5 votes)
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker - 6.46 (12 votes)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 6.45 (10 votes)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos - 6.43 (7 votes)
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard - 6.38 (12 votes)
Final Fantasy V - 6.37 (26 votes)
Grand Theft Auto V - 6.36 (11 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 6.34 (35 votes)
Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 6.15 (15 votes)
DOOM (2016) - 6.15 (13 votes)
Tales of Vesperia - 6.13 (24 votes)
No More Heroes - 5.96 (12 votes)
Shadow of the Colossus - 5.94 (27 votes)
Assassins Creed III - 5.94 (8 votes)
Sonic Adventure 2 - 5.89 (26 votes)
Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception - 5.8 (24 votes)
Final Fantasy IV - 5.76 (32 votes)
Star Fox 64 - 5.76 (26 votes)
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 5.72 (9 votes)
Tales of Xillia - 5.71 (12 votes)
Metroid Prime - 5.67 (24 votes)
Dishonored - 5.67 (9 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 5.63 (13 votes)
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - 5.63 (19 votes)

Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - 5.6 (10 votes)
Braid - 5.59 (11 votes)
Kingdom Hearts - 5.51 (31 votes)
The Wonderful 101 - 5.5 (4 votes)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - 5.43 (14 votes)
Ninja Gaiden (1988) - 5.33 (9 votes)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - 5.33 (6 votes)
Super Mario Galaxy - 5.33 (19 votes)
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 5.3 (10 votes)
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 5.29 (14 votes)
Grand Theft Auto IV - 5.27 (13 votes)
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune - 5.26 (28 votes)
Far Cry 3 - 5.21 (8 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 5.2 (22 votes)
Fable - 5 (12 votes)
Phantasy Star II - 5 (5 votes)
Pokmon Red & Blue - 4.98 (32 votes)
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - 4.93 (24 votes)
Mega Man X4 - 4.89 (13 votes)
Paper Mario: Color Splash - 4.88 (4 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright - 4.85 (13 votes)
Final Fantasy XIII - 4.79 (29 votes)
Final Fantasy X-2 - 4.79 (19 votes)
Final Fantasy XV - 4.79 (19 votes)
Fallout 3 - 4.76 (17 votes)
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty - 4.72 (9 votes)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 4.67 (41 votes)
Fallout 4 - 4.43 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy - 4.17 (21 votes)
Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls - 3.94 (9 votes)
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - 3.89 (9 votes)
Resident Evil 6 - 3.74 (17 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 3.69 (13 votes)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope - 3.43 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy II - 3.4 (10 votes)
Starcraft II (overall) - 3.4 (5 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest - 3.31 (16 votes)
Dissidia: Final Fantasy - 3.29 (12 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates (overall) - 3.29 (12 votes)
Starcraft II: Legacy of the Void - 2.83 (6 votes)
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - 2.66 (16 votes)
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm - 2.57 (7 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation - 2.4 (10 votes)
Tales of Zestiria - 2.38 (8 votes)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 1.91 (6 votes)
Plumbers Dont Wear Ties - 1.27 (15 votes)
Needs more votes:
Torment: Tides of Numenera
The Conduit 2

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LeonhartFour
12/20/21 8:16:29 PM
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Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality

Nominate Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

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plasmabeam
12/20/21 8:19:01 PM
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1/10

Utter garbage. Nothing about this story has stuck with me other than the names of the main characters and the fact that Tenebrae made me laugh a few times.

So much wasted potential here, and I'm still scratching my head as to why the original cast doesn't come back as playable until the very end. It's like The Force Awakens if Han and Leia didn't show.

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Evillordexdeath
12/20/21 8:32:43 PM
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Tales of Symphonia 2: 3/10

I think the badness of this one is a little overstated, but it is still at best a mediocre JRPG plot and at worst annoying and repetitive.

INSIDE: 9 (changing score from a 6)

After playing this a second time and thinking it over a little more, I really appreciate how deliberately constructed every aspect is, and I've realized that my initial disappointment with the ending was a testament to how effective it was at making me care about its mute main character.

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Axl_Rose_85
12/21/21 12:43:25 AM
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Couldn't stomach/10

From what I've played of the 5 hours or so it was a 0

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KokoroAkechi
12/21/21 1:04:44 AM
#8:


Can i give this a 0?
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Nanis23
12/21/21 1:06:28 AM
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There is a TOS2??

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ninkendo
12/21/21 1:23:11 AM
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First half 2/10
Second half 7/10

4.5/10

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ninkendo
12/21/21 1:30:40 AM
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Nanis23 posted...
There is a TOS2??

https://youtu.be/4pBWnfEH6_I

Marta waifu laifu

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most_games_r_ok
12/21/21 2:34:51 AM
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I don't mind it, if only for Tenebrae being a decent troll. And also because I have no real attachment to ToS so 4.5/10.

Less courage is the magic that turns dreams to reality coulda bumped this up to a 5.

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Maniac64
12/21/21 9:30:30 AM
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1/10

most_games_r_ok posted...
Less courage is the magic that turns dreams to reality coulda bumped this up to a 5.
Don't forget showing the same flashback like 4 times in the first few hours.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/21/21 11:22:55 AM
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1.5/10

I made it three hours or thereabouts. I lost to a boss (...Hawkie...) and gave up because of how Emil was intolerable, the way they desecrated the original, and gameplay reasons unrelated to this topic. The 1.5 is for Tenebrae, but this is fifty shades of self-insert fanfiction where a weakling Mary Sue can transform himself into an infallible badass, meets all his heroes, and gets a waifu voiced by Laura Bailey who gets wet at the sight of him. It's awful.

Also, yes, courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.

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plasmabeam
12/21/21 1:37:09 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
this is fifty shades of self-insert fanfiction where a weakling Mary Sue can transform himself into an infallible badass, meets all his heroes, and gets a waifu voiced by Laura Bailey who gets wet at the sight of him. It's awful.

Hahahahah I'm dying


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Lightning Strikes
12/21/21 1:41:36 PM
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3.5.

Its bad, but its not that bad. There is some decent dialogue here and there and it was the first Tales game to use motion capture which made the cutscenes pretty effective.

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Lightning Strikes
12/21/21 4:09:03 PM
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I mean the presentation of the narrative which can help with things like characterisation. This is best seen with the Uncharted games.

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Lopen
12/21/21 4:12:35 PM
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People gush a lot less about Final Fantasy 7's plot if they didn't use FMV cutscenes for the dramatic moments. Definitely not mutually exclusive elements.

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NBIceman
12/21/21 4:13:07 PM
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1/10

Truly an achievement. Thought this would be by far the worst game in the series forever until Zestiria happened.

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Leonhart4
12/21/21 4:13:57 PM
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Oh is this a "presentation matters" discussion I hear

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Evillordexdeath
12/21/21 4:14:19 PM
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I think animation and voice acting both have an impact on the quality of a story, because they influence how successful it is at conveying its emotions. An overly stiff and motionless cutscene can be hard to get immersed in. I thought this was a big problem for FFXIV's A Realm Reborn section for example, particularly one scene where there's supposed to be a huge pitched battle going on but the game only shows you a set of onlookers standing around describing the battle. More detailed animations can do a lot to add personality and life to characters. Inside actually benefits from this compared to Limbo, there are way more contextual animations for the main character in Inside which helps sell the idea that he's going through a harrowing and distressing journey.

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