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AceMos
12/17/21 5:04:40 PM
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https://twitter.com/NFTtheft/status/1471640210588852227

HAHA

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s0nicfan
12/17/21 5:14:49 PM
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No way... You mean NFTs are a scam?

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insomniacRA
12/17/21 5:26:12 PM
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so basically it's the equivalent of people using p2p to download songs back when CD sales were relevant source of income for artists. Except you're stealing art from a graduate who's probably in debt, eating top ramen, while smoking a pack of parliaments a day. But I think it's the value of marketing that gives the art it's value; not the artist's technical skills. Therefore, if someone is savvy enough to steal it and market it as a profitable NFT, then that person has earned the right to profit. If the artist was alone and wasn't selling before, would they have been able to do the same thing? Probably not.
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/21 5:27:22 PM
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If you can find a sucker dumb enough to pay to "own" a deviantart jpeg, good for you, even if that's just evil.
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Doe
12/17/21 5:27:49 PM
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insomniacRA posted...
Therefore, if someone is savvy enough to steal it and market it as a profitable NFT, then that person has earned the right to profit
NFT lover logic

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insomniacRA
12/18/21 12:26:06 AM
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Doe posted...
NFT lover logic
I mean NFT is pretty much a pump with no backed value. It takes considerable amount of marketing skill to get a mass amount of retailers to buy. Otherwise it's a great way to money launder. Person A sells NFT at a value of 1 million. Person B (someone rich so it doesn't look suspicious) buys at a value of 1 million with person A's dirty money. Person A splits the profits with person B. Rinse and repeat until all your money is clear.

I mean are there art curators for NFTs? How would they even begin to start pricing? Anyone can claim their NFT is a million dollars and entice a fellow launderer to take part in their agenda for a nominal fee.
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1337toothbrush
12/18/21 12:54:42 AM
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They should have their asses taken to court for copyright infringement. The fun part will be when a judge orders that the artwork be purged from the blockchain.

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laowhy86
12/18/21 12:56:31 AM
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Thanks for reinforcing my investment in VeVe, which uses fully licensed IP from companies like Marvel, DC, Sony, Cartoon Network, Star Wars, Disney, Pixar, and more for its NFTs, TC. :)
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AceMos
12/18/21 12:57:08 AM
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laowhy86 posted...
Thanks for reinforcing my investment in VeVe, which uses fully licensed IP from companies like Marvel, DC, Sony, Cartoon Network, Star Wars, Disney, Pixar, and more for its NFTs, TC. :)
its still a scam

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1337toothbrush
12/18/21 12:57:58 AM
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laowhy86 posted...
Thanks for reinforcing my investment in VeVe, which uses fully licensed IP from companies like Marvel, DC, Sony, Cartoon Network, Star Wars, Disney, Pixar, and more for its NFTs, TC. :)
How does this validate your dumb shit gamble?

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The Popo
12/18/21 12:58:13 AM
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Ive filed takedown noticed every day for the last 2 weeks. Surely theyll stop this time!

https://youtu.be/l7DL_L3Xdac?t=11

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Guerrilla Soldier
12/18/21 12:58:58 AM
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insomniacRA posted...
so basically it's the equivalent of people using p2p to download songs back when CD sales were relevant source of income for artists.

what? all that did was take away income from the artists. but NFTs actually give the thieves a sizable profit for what they've stolen, it's not just there to listen to like music.

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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 12:59:15 AM
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Take them to the cleaners. I'd like to see substantial prison time for this.

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AceMos
12/18/21 1:09:42 AM
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fun fact about these ppl they turn around and try to say its illegal to use save image as of their NFTs

so yes they steal art thent ry to claim its wrong to copy it

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/18/21 1:20:34 AM
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I don't think I'm dumb enough to understand NFTs.

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insomniacRA
12/18/21 1:30:40 AM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
what? all that did was take away income from the artists. but NFTs actually give the thieves a sizable profit for what they've stolen, it's not just there to listen to like music.
I'm just pointing out the trends: 2000-06, everybody was illegally downloading music. 2021-22, everybody is copying/stealing NFTs. 2030-40, everybody is stealing everyone's waifus from the metaverse.

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laowhy86
12/18/21 9:32:32 AM
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AceMos posted...

its still a scam


If you say so, at least I know my NFTs won't get taken down by copyright since they're fully licensed:

https://youtu.be/TN-LI7P2yBs

https://youtu.be/c5H3dOXjOO8

https://youtu.be/NVMCIL1W47o

https://youtu.be/74fpB8JMVUs

https://youtu.be/rb18iJxkpk4

https://youtu.be/jZBb9cnAbIM

https://youtu.be/oC73i74lGSU

https://youtu.be/XeuZIA_D3G8

https://youtu.be/zVHqUsJNNbU

I mean, I get that you hate NFTs out of some bizarre, irrational fear of them, but copyright is not an issue on the VeVe app.
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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 11:17:16 AM
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laowhy86 posted...
I mean, I get that you hate NFTs out of some bizarre, irrational fear of them, but copyright is not an issue on the VeVe app.
Lmao, bruh...

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trappedunderice
12/18/21 11:24:56 AM
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NFTs are like the first step to reach Idiocracy.
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laowhy86
12/18/21 1:08:39 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Lmao, bruh...


https://youtu.be/tRftkhdFvME
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Trumble
12/18/21 1:10:43 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
They should have their asses taken to court for copyright infringement. The fun part will be when a judge orders that the artwork be purged from the blockchain.

My understanding is that the art itself isn't actually stored on the blockchain, just a link to it or similar?

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AngelicRadiance
12/18/21 1:10:58 PM
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Guess we know the name of SMAL's newest alt

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Trumble
12/18/21 1:24:48 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Lmao, bruh...

No, he's correct on that one. Veve is actually partnering with the licence-holders for their NFTs.

(Don't take this as a comment on anything about them other than "they aren't a copyright violation" though.)

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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 1:38:03 PM
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Trumble posted...


(Don't take this as a comment on anything about them other than "they aren't a copyright violation" though.)
I know they're not a copyright violation, but this man just linked like 10 random YouTube videos. Is this how it feels when one of your high school friends hits you up after 5 years trying to sell Amway? It's like this man works for the company or something, lol

laowhy86 posted...
https://youtu.be/tRftkhdFvME
That looks fucking awful, wow. I've seen amateur YouTube videos with better cgi than that. Pokemon Go looks better and that shit's free.

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Trumble
12/18/21 1:41:21 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I know they're not a copyright violation, but this man just linked like 10 random YouTube videos. Is this how it feels when one of your high school friends hits you up after 5 years trying to sell Amway? It's like this man works for the company or something, lol
He doesn't work for them, but he does have major investments in them. With that being said - and to be clear, I have zero investment or other connection to this company myself (unless you count "referenced them in a lighthearted crypto-themed shitty flash-type game I made once") - I can also see the actual appeal. They're basically the digital equivalent of licenced action figures; I don't get the point in them (physical or digital) myself but there are people out there who absolutely eat that shit up.

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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 3:15:28 PM
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Trumble posted...
They're basically the digital equivalent of licenced action figures; I don't get the point in them (physical or digital) myself but there are people out there who absolutely eat that shit up.
I understand that some people see the appeal, but at the end of the day...a "digital collectible" is an oxymoron. You can't collect something that doesn't exist, because the idea of a collection is that you own it.

If the servers hosting that NFT ever go down, you won't own it anymore. You never owned it in the first place.

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laowhy86
12/18/21 3:49:55 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

I understand that some people see the appeal, but at the end of the day...a "digital collectible" is an oxymoron. You can't collect something that doesn't exist, because the idea of a collection is that you own it.

If the servers hosting that NFT ever go down, you won't own it anymore. You never owned it in the first place.


VeVe's app has only been live since October of 2020, and the market place was down for many months. They also didn't have regular, weekly drops until about last summer. And they've already hit over 1.3 million users with zero marketing. If you think NFTs are going away, you're sorely mistaken.
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1337toothbrush
12/18/21 4:11:02 PM
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laowhy86 posted...
https://youtu.be/tRftkhdFvME
1) That looks fucking stupid.
2) You just stare at it but on different backgrounds provided by your camera? You think this is amazing, why?
3) How is this enhanced by being an NFT?

Trumble posted...
My understanding is that the art itself isn't actually stored on the blockchain, just a link to it or similar?
It isn't actually stored on the blockchain, but even then it has its own consequences. Does the seller have to pay a refund? Does the buyer still have ownership over a dead link?

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UnholyMudcrab
12/18/21 4:12:58 PM
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Please stop feeding SMAL

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Kiyune
12/18/21 4:14:04 PM
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insomniacRA posted...
But I think it's the value of marketing that gives the art it's value; not the artist's technical skills. Therefore, if someone is savvy enough to steal it and market it as a profitable NFT, then that person has earned the right to profit. If the artist was alone and wasn't selling before, would they have been able to do the same thing? Probably not
No, the art itself should have value, not this marketing nonsense. And the person who created the art is the one who gave it that value. There is no justifying stealing from the rightful owner and using the pallid excuse of "well maybe they couldn't market it well anyway", that's theft and very low

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1337toothbrush
12/18/21 4:16:02 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Please stop feeding SMAL
Who is SMALbrain?

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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 5:18:47 PM
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laowhy86 posted...
And they've already hit over 1.3 million users with zero marketing. If you think NFTs are going away, you're sorely mistaken.
How many people do you suppose bought beanie babies in their early years?

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laowhy86
12/18/21 5:22:17 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...

1) That looks fucking stupid.
2) You just stare at it but on different backgrounds provided by your camera? You think this is amazing, why?
3) How is this enhanced by being an NFT?

It isn't actually stored on the blockchain, but even then it has its own consequences. Does the seller have to pay a refund? Does the buyer still have ownership over a dead link?


Tbh, when you type, all I hear is:

https://youtu.be/75y5EKe3Emc

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/B4wfJPN.png

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Gobstoppers12
12/18/21 5:31:28 PM
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laowhy86 posted...
https://i.imgur.com/8jXjolX.png
Nice. You should sell it.

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AceMos
12/18/21 5:47:55 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
How many people do you suppose bought beanie babies in their early years?
or hell look how many ppl get ropped into MLMs

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