Current Events > Waitress fired for not sharing 4,400 tip. Was the tip hot?!?

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To play the devils advocate here. More people assisted in that man's service then just those two waiters.

So it's a little unfair they get to earn so much for doing the lowest skilled job of the bunch.

Yes, the system should be changed, but you seem to be applying your criticism to the system as-is based on the tone of your writing. As of right now in America, tips are their wage in the majority of restaurant setups, full stop. That it should change is a good opinion to have. To say that that, under the current system, tips are not their wage is just kinda weird, so either I'm misunderstanding your posts or you hold a weird opinion.

True, that pic of the dude grinning wildly next to the weeping waitress just makes me sick to my stomach at the state of class relations.

Do you always write stupid shit

Their wage is the hourly wage in which they are legally paid. The tip should not be considered part of that wage, and it's pathetic that so many people accept that it is. Wait staff deserve more money, and it should not come exclusively from the kindness of the people they serve. Their bosses should be paying them more. In Canada, wait staff make the federally mandated minimum wage, with tips being a gratuity on top of that. They don't have a special exemption in the legal code that allows restaurant owners to pay them three times less than everybody else, just because they make tips.

servers do NOT want to make minimum wage. They make way more with tips, the only time they dont like tipping is when they dont get one

Their wage is the hourly wage in which they are legally paid. The tip should not be considered part of that wage, and it's pathetic that so many people accept that it is. Wait staff deserve more money, and it should not come exclusively from the kindness of the people they serve. Their bosses should be paying them more. In Canada, wait staff make the federally mandated minimum wage, with tips being a gratuity on top of that. They don't have a special exemption in the legal code that allows restaurant owners to pay them three times less than everybody else, just because they make tips.

servers do NOT want to make minimum wage. They make way more with tips, the only time they dont like tipping is when they dont get one

MrDrMan posted...

If servers got paid minimum wage then people would use that as justification not to tip. It sounds like a good idea but in reality they would lose money. No server wants that.

Did you just not read what I posted? Tipping isn't inversely related to their hourly wage. It's not a scale that caps how much they earn. They deserve to be paid more, and it should not come exclusively from the kindness of strangers. That's all I've been saying.

Funny. Seems other countries have mastered the idea of paying a higher base salary and also offering gratuities on top of it.

Was it only 2 waiters helping that table? Some restaurants have waiters specifically for certain tables and if they walk by a table and customers need something, they will say let me get your waiter. If it is those restaurants, then they have the right to say F it and keep the tips. But why would the manager only assign 2 waiters for a party of 44...

Do you always write stupid shit

Tipping is so absurd

yeah i can see how it would go
"the tip, yeah it was $4000. needs to be put through the books and disbursed"
"that big tip? yeah the $3500 is going to be split evenly between the workers"
"still asking about that $3000 tip huh?"
"it's $2000 evenly distributed so you won't see that much"
"look it'll be in the next paycheck. remember, it's $1000 in an even split"

Do you always write stupid shit

Other countries dont tip near as much. There is no other country in the world where tipping 15-20% on a meal is standard.

the mistake he made was tipping through the restaurant. if he really wanted to give the two waitresses 2k each, he should've just written them a personal check individually, outside of their place of business.

fuck the business, fuck pooling money, but rules are rules, and if it was technically a tip and it's technically supposed to be split, then technically the restaurant gets it.

i blame the smarmy ass rich guy that thought he was doing something flashy and ended up getting himself into logistical hell. he should've thought about what he was doing.

some of that should absolutely have gone to the kitchen and support staff, but to a server who didn't even assist with said table? nah.

No. A tip that size deserves to be shared with the bussers and back of house as well and any server who doesn't realize that is the definition of server entitlement.

It's nice to make a server's day with a tip, but they are seriously the biggest, most self entitled babies in the world.

"Haha I filled drinks up and carried out salads and dinner plates, I have the most stressful job in the world!"

False. Here in Canada the standard tip is between 15% and 20% despite the fact that wait staff are all paid at least minimum wage (and the real minimum wage, $14.35 here in Ontario, not $2.50 or whatever it is in the US). In fact if you pay debit or credit at any restaurant the three choices you are given for a tip is 15%, 18% and 20% and if you go to a upscale place or have a large party they'll usually just simply charge an 18% tip right on your bill and not even given the option.

I guarantee you two waitresses cant serve forty people [well] without a small group of busboys clearing dishes, refilling drinks, carrying large trays that the waiters serve from.

I guarantee you two waitresses cant serve forty people [well] without a small group of busboys clearing dishes, refilling drinks, carrying large trays that the waiters serve from.

This shit is indefensible unless youre just a shitty person. That said Im fine with someone admitting theyre a piece of shit and pocketing the money.

Theyll get theirs.

How long did you wait tables for?

Couple of years in high school. Several more during college.

Same single restaurant family owned Italian place both times.

Yeah busboys do a lot of the work for serving a table, and they get paid less than servers.

Oh, that restaurant can absolutely go fuck itself.

The restaurant can go fuck itself. 44 people that two people had to take care of? They deserve every bit of the money.

I agree with the concept of a tip share, especially with high class venues such as one that would entertain a group of real estate executives. However, that tip share should be between the servers for the table, the cooks, and the bus staff. They're the ones that saw to that giant executive party.

Ah, so a small place. Thats cool.

Just wanna add you have no idea what youre talking about, and Im sorry you never had the chance to serve big tables. I loved the shit out of it.

I mean not really. Waiters/waitresses cleared a lot of the plates when the guests were done and the busboys cleared up whatever little stuff was left. If the servers arent clearing plates and finished items then thats on management, not the server.

But I always threw the busboy like a $20 or so every night, they cleared whatever little stuff was left on my tables first so Id get more tables.

Except the cooks and bus staff are paid a normal wage.

5%.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/waitress-fired-tip-arkansas-restaurant-b1974024.html

local real estate guy made a dinner where his group all donated 100 bucks. It came out to 4,400. He specifically asked for the tip to go to his two servers(2,200). When they left, the restaurant demanded she keep 20 percent, and hand over the rest to the manager. For him to distribute to everyone.

She refused and she was fired for it. The guy then made a gofundme for her and she was hired elsewhere

The restaurant can go fuck itself. 44 people that two people had to take care of? They deserve every bit of the money.

The restaurant can go fuck itself. 44 people that two people had to take care of? They deserve every bit of the money.

Waiters do the easiest job. All they do is carry food around. IMO I think the manager is right that the money should be distributed evenly to the cooks that actually make the food and even management considering they're the ones keeping the lights on. Maybe a warning would have been enough though.

If you're culturally obligated to tip they're professional obligated to share the tips based on restaurant policy. Managers use tip sharing policies to fuck over the people in the kitchen too, not just the servers, you can't just sit on the tip and not let the people in the back get a share.

Fuck the restaurant if they just made the rule up on the spot though.

The restaurant can go fuck itself. 44 people that two people had to take care of? They deserve every bit of the money.

Their wage is the hourly wage in which they are legally paid. The tip should not be considered part of that wage, and it's pathetic that so many people accept that it is. Wait staff deserve more money, and it should not come exclusively from the kindness of the people they serve. Their bosses should be paying them more. In Canada, wait staff make the federally mandated minimum wage, with tips being a gratuity on top of that. They don't have a special exemption in the legal code that allows restaurant owners to pay them three times less than everybody else, just because they make tips.

This s*** is indefensible unless youre just a s***ty person. That said Im fine with someone admitting theyre a piece of s*** and pocketing the money.

Theyll get theirs.

Yeah, I'm walking out with 2k and finding another gig.

The restaurant can go fuck itself. 44 people that two people had to take care of? They deserve every bit of the money.