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HylianFox
12/06/21 9:53:59 PM
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Since the 80s pretty much every big-name movie has followed the same character archetypes, narrative, and overall structure

The sad thing is, several movies since then have been better 'Star Wars' movies than the recent Star Wars movies
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Derwood
12/06/21 9:56:46 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Since the 80s pretty much every big-name movie has followed the same character archetypes, narrative, and overall structure

The sad thing is, several movies since then have been better 'Star Wars' movies than the recent Star Wars movies
:/

Star Wars itself is based on "The Hero's Journey" which was developed a couple thousand years ago
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AzurexNightmare
12/06/21 10:01:34 PM
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Derwood posted...
Star Wars itself is based on "The Hero's Journey" which was developed a couple thousand years ago
Who cares. This TV trope crap is annoying.

Everything was done a long time ago. Useless to bring it up every time. People spend 2 minutes on TV Tropes and think they're experts already.

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AdviceMan
12/06/21 10:03:35 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Who cares. This TV trope crap is annoying.

Everything was done a long time ago. Useless to bring it up every time. People spend 2 minutes on TV Tropes and think they're experts already.

What are you talking about? The story structure is relevant to this topic because the OP is discussing the story structure.

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AzurexNightmare
12/06/21 10:24:03 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
What are you talking about? The story structure is relevant to this topic because the OP is discussing the story structure.
Idgaf. Stories would be more interesting if everyone stopped dissecting them and comparing them to other crap.

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_____Cait
12/06/21 10:27:22 PM
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i understand your annoyance at TVTropes, it is a cancer on creativity.

Heros Journey is a legit thing that literary experts use. Its basically a guide. You can follow the guide and not fall into tropes. It basically follows how humans evolve into better people and grow, as well. It is science, psychology, and literature.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/07/21 11:12:06 AM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Who cares. This TV trope crap is annoying.
Based.

AzurexNightmare posted...
Stories would be more interesting if everyone stopped dissecting them and comparing them to other crap.
Doublemint based. All this trivia about tropes and hero's journey is not the most stimulating analyses you can come up with, to say the least.

Personally, I like Star Wars, so if they use the structure of the Star Warses to make more Star Wars, that's fine with me.
If I want something that isn't Star Wars then I'll watch something that isn't Star Wars. That happens often enough and there's a whole bunch to choose from, so I'm fine.

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Were_Wyrm
12/07/21 11:14:00 AM
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Yeah I'm tired of wars, they really need to go on some sort of trek.

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Gobstoppers12
12/07/21 11:16:14 AM
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HylianFox posted...
The sad thing is, several movies since then have been better 'Star Wars' movies than the recent Star Wars movies
Yeah? Which ones?

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12/07/21 11:19:13 AM
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HylianFox
12/07/21 12:43:32 PM
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you know I'm right

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AdviceMan
12/07/21 12:51:56 PM
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"if people would stop dissecting stories the conversations would be more interesting" -people who offer literally nothing to the discussion

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Derwood
12/07/21 1:46:57 PM
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Saying Star Wars is built from the Heroes Journey is not lazy. Star Wars is one of the greatest modern interpretations of that journey in existence. The fact that newer movies get compared to Star Wars is a testament to how well Lucas interpreted that structure.
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/21 1:50:17 PM
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Derwood posted...
Saying Star Wars is built from the Heroes Journey is not lazy. Star Wars is one of the greatest modern interpretations of that journey in existence.
ANH glues that to most of the plot of The Hidden Fortress, which works out pretty well.
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iPhone_7
12/07/21 1:52:23 PM
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Theres always going to be tropes, theres no escaping it.

Doing it this way is a trope, but doing it the opposite way is also a trope. Including these things is a trope, not including them is also a trope. Trope trope trope

Simpsons did it!

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EmbraceOfDeath
12/07/21 1:52:26 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
Who cares. This TV trope crap is annoying.

Everything was done a long time ago. Useless to bring it up every time. People spend 2 minutes on TV Tropes and think they're experts already.
People been talking about Star Wars using the hero's journey decades before tvtropes was created.

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Gobstoppers12
12/07/21 6:32:33 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
Theres always going to be tropes, theres no escaping it.

Doing it this way is a trope, but doing it the opposite way is also a trope. Including these things is a trope, not including them is also a trope. Trope trope trope

Simpsons did it!
Tropes are not negative things. They're just aspects of fiction, and of stories in general, that have existed in many forms.

It's not a cliche. Tropes on that website are just there for entertainment and documentation. I don't know why it's a bad thing to have terms for common things in media.

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AzurexNightmare
12/07/21 8:54:11 PM
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Derwood posted...
Saying Star Wars is built from the Heroes Journey is not lazy. Star Wars is one of the greatest modern interpretations of that journey in existence. The fact that newer movies get compared to Star Wars is a testament to how well Lucas interpreted that structure.
It's disgusting that every single story of this type will be referred to that till the end of time. Disgusting and sad.

It's as useless and stupid as saying "there's actually only four songs in the world!"

Useless stupid wussy crap.

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AzurexNightmare
12/07/21 8:56:58 PM
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look how stupid this is.

This is as vague as your horoscope is. This basically describes a ton of stories for no reason. And disgustingly if your story fits any of this in any order, it's another "hero's journey."

Dumb as fuck.

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Derwood
12/07/21 9:26:01 PM
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U Mad doe?
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Questionmarktarius
12/07/21 11:07:51 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
This basically describes a ton of stories for no reason.
Damn near every I Love Lucy episode.
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Zeeak4444
12/07/21 11:39:14 PM
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AzurexNightmare posted...
look how stupid this is.

This is as vague as your horoscope is. This basically describes a ton of stories for no reason. And disgustingly if your story fits any of this in any order, it's another "hero's journey."

Dumb as fuck.

YMMV

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bulletproofvita
12/07/21 11:43:01 PM
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Lol TC makes a statement then refuses to give examples, laughs at us.

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