Current Events > Alec Baldwin says he didn't pull the trigger on the gun

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https://www.tmz.com/2021/12/01/alec-baldwin-says-he-didnt-pull-trigger-on-gun-with-live-round/

https://youtu.be/Eu8jODyHmlk
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Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Unless the gun fires itself.

"Is this the worst thing thing that's ever happened to you?"

Uh, what do you think?

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The whole cinematic zooming in, cuts, and music makes this bs. Just do a straight interview fuckers.

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He really should stop talking publicly about this.

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Do you think they paid for this interview

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Didnt a bunch of the crew walk off specifically because the gun had previously misfired? He might not have pulled the trigger.

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I'm calling BS on him not pulling the trigger

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Him and Kyle would be best bros, both responsible for people's deaths and got away with it

Would be a weird thing to lie about, considering he should have been able to pull the trigger anway without it firing a bullet.

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Quorthon109 posted...

Didnt a bunch of the crew walk off specifically because the gun had previously misfired? He might not have pulled the trigger.

They walked off for a lot of reasons, like a whole bunch but I dont think this was one of them. I remember reading that the lack of proper Covid protocols were one of the big reasons and their hotel rooms not being paid for.

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I will assume this is a lie, but why is he lying? Most people are on his side and feel bad for him.

Maybe its such a traumatic moment that he forgot what happened and isnt actually lying

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why would this just now be coming out?

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iPhone_7 posted...

They walked off for a lot of reasons, like a whole bunch but I dont think this was one of them. I remember reading that the lack of proper Covid protocols were one of the big reasons and their hotel rooms not being paid for.

One article I just looked at just said safety concerns, but that there were no official complaints about the firearm. He could just be trying to cover himself but as already mentioned, I dont know why hed think its necessary.


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Damn_Underscore posted...

I will assume this is a lie, but why is he lying? Most people are on his side and feel bad for him.

Maybe its such a traumatic moment that he forgot what happened and isnt actually lying

The original story I read when this first came out was that they wanted to shoot another take of a scene and Baldwin didn't want to, so he jokingly pointed the gun at two people on set and did a sort of "bang bang you're dead now we don't have to do another take" joke. Sort of like that infamous Indiana Jones marketplace fight.

My guess is for legal liability purposes he needs to emphasize that he was in no way responsible for the gun going off. Even though he didn't know it had live ammo, if the story above is true he would still potentially be partly responsible because I doubt what he did is part of gun safety protocol on set.

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I follow the meme page that originally posted that pic above, and his daughter was apparently a follower, and called them out in the comments. It was pretty awkward

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He said, "I ain't a killa, but don't push me.."

I suppose it's possible, but the more likely scenario seems like it would be he is just suffering some guilt-induced denial.

Esrac posted...

I suppose it's possible, but the more likely scenario seems like it would be he is just suffering some guilt-induced denial.

I mean there is nothing to be in denial about. Either way it isnt his fault. It had been reported that the prop department already had issues with the guns and mechanisms. Its not too far fetched to think.

Alec seems genuinely remorseful. I feel bad for him. Especially more so since a bunch of trump licking idiots had to make it worse by making it political.

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Solo_Wing posted...

Lmao

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Sheiky-Baby posted...

The whole cinematic zooming in, cuts, and music makes this bs. Just do a straight interview fuckers.

Overproduced reality tv/segments are my biggest tv pet peeve atm. You're literally giving yourself more work to have a shitter less genuine product in the end.

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Quorthon109 posted...

Didnt a bunch of the crew walk off specifically because the gun had previously misfired? He might not have pulled the trigger.

Not quite. They were union workers who walked off before the gun started misfiring. If there had been union workers on set the gun would have been removed from the set immediately when it first misfired because of their regulations, but the scabs that replaced them didnt think a gun misfiring several times was cause for concern apparently.

I dont know if Baldwin is telling the truth but its certainly plausible. Only thing is it doesnt really absolve him because he is one of the people responsible for the union workers leaving in the first place.

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His acting is top notch here, should get an emmy.

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He said living is for closers.

Man commercials like that are so scummy. Taking a tragedy and milking it with "cliffhanger" questions, accompanied by dramatic music, so that the viewer has to tune in to watch this juicy exclusive! Sometimes I really hate the media.
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So it misfired in his hand? Why didn't he say that earlier? Did he? Is he trying to avoid giving the family some sort of reparations from his own expenses? It would have helped to know this when it first happened.

Number090684 posted...

So it misfired in his hand? Why didn't he say that earlier? Did he? Is he trying to avoid giving the family some sort of reparations from his own expenses? It would have helped to know this when it first happened.

He's not being sued by the family (I mean he might be) but by other people that were on the set that day. The Script Supervisor is putting alot of blame on him.

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Solo_Wing posted...

holy fuck

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Eh. Hard to believe this tbh. He should've just said he felt so sorry about it and left it at that. Whether he pulled the trigger or not that would've been fine cause even if he did he isn't to blame. This just seems like an excuse

So I was right in my initial theory that he genuinely doesn't give a shit about killing someone, its all about saving face and his precious mansion.

What a dick.

Why didn't his lawyer stop this interview?

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Was someone sniping from above?

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He's probably convinced himself that he didn't pull the trigger, so he's just acting at this point.

What a clown

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I find it hard to believe that the gun just went off. More likely he is in some kind of denial of what really happened.

Im curious as to what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to come to the conclusion that he isnt in any way to blame for what happened. He had to have broken multiple key rules of gun safety for this to happen. Actor or not, if youre handling a firearm, you are responsible. Obviously when making movies with firearms, sometimes you need to break a safety rule from time to time, and thankfully you can get away with breaking one, but he broke all four primary rules.

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Why are people suddenly blaming him? I remember when people smothered him with get well soon messages, justifying murder.

People are sheep.

JScriv posted...

Actor or not, if youre handling a firearm, you are responsible.

"Responsible" in what sense. Legally? Historically that hasn't been the case.

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mobilebloechel posted...

lol!

https://m.imgur.com/VaZBk4v

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https://www.today.com/popculture/alec-baldwin-says-feels-no-guilt-rust-shooting-rcna7492

Alec Baldwin said he has only one unresolved question about the fatal shooting on the Rust film set: Where did the live round come from?

Baldwin detailed his shock and disbelief after the Oct. 21 shooting that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, 42, and discussed the moments before it in an interview with ABC News George Stephanopoulos that aired Thursday.

Theres only one question to be resolved, only one, and that is where did the live round come from? Baldwin said.

Where did that bullet come from? he said. Somebody brought live rounds plural onto the set of the film. And one of them ended up in that gun.

The actor and producer said he was rehearsing a scene when the prop gun went off, killing Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza, 48, at the Bonanza Creek Ranch in New Mexico. The shooting is under investigation.

In the interview, Baldwin insisted that he did not pull the trigger. In the scene, he was to draw his gun, raise it and start to cock the pistol cut, he said.

Baldwin said he was taking direction from Hutchins and pulled the hammer back as far as he could without cocking it.

Im just showing her, I go, How about that? Does that work? Do you see that? ... She said, yeah, thats good. Baldwin told Stephanopoulos. I let go of the hammer bang, the gun goes off.

I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them. Never, he said.

Baldwin said that he was told that the gun was empty and that he was so certain it was, that the idea that there was a live round in it didnt dawn on him until close to an hour after the shooting.

He initially believed Hutchins had fainted, he said.

Baldwin said that only near the end of an interview with police when a sheriffs official showed him an image of the .45-caliber slug recovered from Souza did he learn it was a live round.

And then the kind of insanity-inducing agony of thinking that someone put a live bullet in the gun, he said.

Immediately after the shooting, much of the attention fell on assistant director Dave Halls, who had yelled cold gun on the Rust set before he gave Baldwin the weapon, indicating incorrectly that it didnt have any live rounds, investigators said in a search warrant affidavit.

Halls attorney, Lisa Torraco, has maintained that her client didnt hand the gun to Baldwin and that checking to see whether it was loaded wasnt the assistant directors responsibility.

In an interview that aired Thursday on ABCs Good Morning America, Torraco said Halls has been telling her for weeks that Baldwin didnt pull the trigger on the Rust set.

Since Day One, he thought it was a misfire, Torraco said. And until Alec said that, it was really hard to believe but Dave has told me since the very first day I met him that Alec did not pull that trigger.

Baldwin, who said its unlikely hell ever be in a movie that features a gun again, said in the interview that aired Thursday that he did not wish to portray himself as a victim, but said he has been plagued by dreams involving gunfire.

But, he feels no guilt, he said.

I feel that someone is responsible for what happened, and I cant say who that is, Baldwin said. But I know its not me.

He told Stephanopoulos that if he could, he would go to any lengths to undo what happened.

No one has been arrested or criminally charged in connection with the shooting, which is being investigated by the Santa Fe County Sheriffs Office.

A spokesman for the Santa Fe County Sheriffs Office told NBC News Thursday morning that his agency would not discuss Baldwins interview.

After the shooting, the district attorney for Santa Fe County, Mary Carmack-Altwies, said pressing charges could be a challenge.

She told NBC News that any potential charge tied to an involuntary killing would need to show the willful disregard for the safety of others.

And so at this point, we are trying to figure out, should it become a criminal investigation? Should it become more of a civil investigation? So its an investigation, Carmack-Altwies said a week after the killing.


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They need to make gun scenes in every movie cgi

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Ah, so he didn't pull the trigger, he just dropped the hammer on a live round. Huge difference.

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Honestly I don't really know the full context. But right now hes trying to salvage as much as he can. He just admits that it was an accident. He could have the storm of the century on himself. If he starts to shift the topic. And describe the hammer incident. That sort of creates a lot more sympathetic feel towards him.
Which may reduce the amount of lawsuits he's going to receive. As well push away the idea of criminal charges. At this point. If I was him. I would be feeling really bad one way, and the other.
However I do think whoever put the bullet In there should be facing some form of punishment.

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gaminggamer13 posted...

Why are people suddenly blaming him? I remember when people smothered him with get well soon messages, justifying murder.

People are sheep.

Believing he didnt know the gun was loaded and it all being an accident is very sensible.

But him making a big deal of saying that he didnt shoot when he was the one holding the gun when it went off makes him seem super scummy.

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Any type of weapon with a revolving action or hammer mechanism can be fired if you dont know how to safely lower the hammer. You have to hold the trigger AND gently thumb down the hammer at the same time if you know you are loaded and dont want to fire.

Dude was not properly weapons trained but also the props master was totally not doing their job in training, protocol, or safety.

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gaminggamer13 posted...

Him and Kyle would be best bros, both responsible for people's deaths and got away with it

Shut the fuck up

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Scorsese2002 posted...

Halls attorney, Lisa Torraco, has maintained that her client didnt hand the gun to Baldwin and that checking to see whether it was loaded wasnt the assistant directors responsibility.

He should probably consider firing her and getting an attorney who doesn't give interviews saying that he wasn't following the proper procedure.
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DandyQuackShot posted...

Any type of weapon with a revolving action or hammer mechanism can be fired if you dont know how to safely lower the hammer. You have to hold the trigger AND gently thumb down the hammer at the same time if you know you are loaded and dont want to fire.

Dude was not properly weapons trained but also the props master was totally not doing their job in training, protocol, or safety.

so what you are saying is that he had to have held the trigger (AND do something else) for it to fire?